NIR SIG Update APNIC20 Fri, 9 th Sep 2005. Overview Attendance – Roughly 30 attendees – Attendees also from a few non-NIRs this time Presentation – 1.

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NIR SIG Update APNIC20 Fri, 9 th Sep 2005

Overview Attendance – Roughly 30 attendees – Attendees also from a few non-NIRs this time Presentation – 1 proposal, 3 informational presentation Major Discussions – Revision of the fee for NIRs Consensus – Abolish IPv6 per address fee for NIRs until it is necessary Other Note – Need more time for updates from each NIRs

Presentations Explanation of recent IPv6 fee structure change (I) Abolishing IPv6 per address fee for NIRs (P) NIR fee status update (I) VNNIC Update (I) Had 4 more presentations planned, but ran out of time … An apology to the speakers Will secure more time at the next meeting

Explanation of recent IPv6 fee structure change (I) Paul Wilson from APNIC explained the recent change in the IPv6 per address fee – Based on APNIC EC decision in April 2005 – Totally abolish per address fee for confederations – 90% discount for NIRs if a request is based on IPv4 infrastructure No questions/comments from the audience

prop-028-v001: Abolishing IPv6 per address fee for NIRs (P) A joint proposal by NIRs to completely abolish IPv6 address fee for NIRs as a temporary solution Reached consensus – The current fee scheme is too complicated – A large amount of fee for subsequent allocation requests – No substantial financial impact on APNIC – The proposal intended as a short term solution More details to be explained in later slides

NIR fee status update (I) Discussions on the long term fee revision for NIRs based on a presentation by Paul Wilson Confirmed APNIC as well as NIRs agree that per address fee based fee structure is not desirable for a stable budget management Some comments on creating a new annual membership fee category for NIRs Continue discussions on the fundamental review of the fee structure for NIRs

Action Items Action nir : James Shim from KRNIC to make suggestions to APNIC to expand the ERX FAQ to include information relevant to NIR members. No update (APNIC 20). Action nir : Chair to refer proposal [prop-028-v001] to APNIC Member Meeting to seek further consensus.

prop-028-v001: Abolishing IPv6 per address fee for NIRs

Fee charged for each allocations made to NIRs based on the size of allocation The amount of per address fee increases as the size of allocation gets larger For an allocation of IPv6 address space, the total per- address fee is calculated for the prefix allocated according to the number of addresses which should be utilised according to the current HD-Ratio requirement. What is per address fee?

Example of IPv6 per address fee /31 IPv6 allocation – Utilization for /31 * per address fee – 12,417 * US$0.03 = US$ /21 IPv6 allocation – Utilization for /21 * per address fee – 3,178,688 * US$0.03 = US$95,360.00

Utilization per address size Allocation sizeTotal /48sUtilisation / / / /

NIR Fee structure diagram APNIC LIR NIR LIR Annual Membership fee Annual Membership fee + per address fee Fee based on NIR fee structure

Discount of per address fee for NIRs Approved by EC in April,2005 A 90% discount will be applied to the per address fees for allocations of IPv6 address space to NIR members with existing IPv4 infrastructure. The minimum charge would be equal to the fee charged for the minimum allocation size

Example of IPv6 per address fee based on EC decision /31 allocation based on IPv6 infrastructure – 12,417 * US$0.03 = US$ /31 allocation based on IPv4 infrastructure – US$ * 0.1 = US$37.20 – US$37.20 < US$ US$ will be charged /21allocation based on IPv4 infrastructure – US$95,360.00*0.1 = US$9, /21allocation based on IPv6 infrastructure – 3,178,688 * US$0.03 = US$95,360.00

Problem with the current per address fee Complicated to calculate the charge – Requires a complicated formula – Minimum charge must also be considered 90% discount applies to some cases, but 100% is charged for the others – 100% charge if based on IPv6 infrastructure and subsequent allocations Can be the source of confusion!

Proposal Abolish per address fee for IPv6 allocation as a temporary solution Let s make it simple!

Note IPv4 per address fee will remain as it is Not intended to abolish the IPv6 per address fee for good – Started the long term review of NIR fee scheme to cover the necessary expenses for APNIC

Financial Impact on APNIC 1% of APNIC revenue last year, therefore less than 1% of APNIC revenue after the 90% discount Year2001%2002%2003%2004% M fee2,472,532722,871,724753,409,078763,510,39272 Per v4 523, , , ,45912 Per v6 4,5430 8,2320 7, ,7211 N-M fee 37, , , ,6861 App fee 152, , , ,1887 Other 245, , , ,8117 Total 3,435,482 3,814,488 4,487,461 4,888,257

Summary Proposal – Abolish per address fee for IPv6 Reason – The current fee scheme is too complicated Financial Impact on APNIC – Less than 1% of APNIC revenue Other note – This is a temporary solution – Currently working on the long term review of NIR fee scheme