The Brothers Karamazov (Fyodor Dostoyevsky) "Listen! If all must suffer to pay for the eternal harmony, what have children to do with it? Tell me, please!

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The Brothers Karamazov (Fyodor Dostoyevsky) "Listen! If all must suffer to pay for the eternal harmony, what have children to do with it? Tell me, please! It's beyond all comprehension why they should suffer, and why they should pay for the harmony. Why should they, too, furnish the material to enrich the soil for the harmony of the future? I understand the solidarity in sin among men. I understand the solidarity in retribution, too; but there is no such solidarity with children. And if it is really true that they must share responsibility for all their father's crimes, such a truth is not of this world, and is beyond comprehension. Some jester may say perhaps, that the child would have grown up and have sinned, but you see he didn't

The Brothers Karamazov (Fyodor Dostoyevsky) grow; he was torn into pieces by the dogs at eight years old. "Too high a price is asked for harmony; it's beyond our means to pay so much to enter on it. And so I hasten to give back my entrance ticket…and if I am a honest man, I am bound to give it back as soon as possible. And that I am doing. It's not God that I don't accept, Alyosha, only I most respectfully return Him the ticket." "That's rebellion," murmured Alyosha looking down. "Rebellion? I'm sorry you call it that," said Ivan earnestly. "One can hardly live in rebellion, and I want to live. Tell me yourself – I challenge you – answer. Imagine you are creating a fabric of human destiny,

The Brothers Karamazov (Fyodor Dostoyevsky) with the object of making men happy in the end, giving them piece and rest at last, but that it was essential and inevitable to torture to death only one tiny creature – that baby beating its breast with its fist – for an instant. And to found that edifice on its unavenged tears, would you consent to be the architect on those conditions? Tell me, tell me the truth."

God didn’t question Job’s integrity or sincerity; He only questioned Job’s ability to explain the ways of God in the world. Job had spoken the truth about God, but his speeches had lacked humility. Job thought he knew about God, but he didn’t realize how much he didn’t know about God. Knowledge of our own ignorance is the first step toward true wisdom. – Warren Wiersbe

Sons of God ~ bene` elohim

Rev. 8 ~ 7a The first angel sounded: And hail and fire followed, mingled with blood, and they were thrown to the earth Rev. 16 ~ 21a And great hail from heaven fell upon men, each hailstone about the weight of a talent

KJV ~ Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades

NIV ~ Who let the wild donkey go free? Who untied his ropes NLT ~ Who makes the wild donkey wild?

Wild ox ~ KJV, unicorn

Job's previous statements: 10 ~ 2a I will say to God, 'Do not condemn me' 13 ~ 22 Then call, and I will answer; Or let me speak, then You respond to me 14 ~ 15a You shall call, and I will answer You

Job's previous statements: 31 ~ 37 I would declare to Him the number of my steps; Like a prince I would approach Him

Behemoth

Diplodocus Brachiosaurus

Sneezings ~ KJV, neesings

Plesiosaur

Miracles (C. S. Lewis) The hurt child needs not so much explanations as reassurances. And that is what we get: the reassurance of the Father in the person of Jesus, "he who has seen Me has seen the Father." So here; the shock comes at the precise moment when the thrill of life is communicated to us alone the clue we have been following. It is always shocking to meet life when we thought we were alone. "Look out!" we cry, "it's alive!" And therefore this is the very point at which so many draw back – I would have done so myself if I could – and proceed no further with Christianity. An impersonal God – well and good. A subjective God of beauty, truth and goodness inside out own heads – better still. A formless life-force

Miracles (C. S. Lewis) surging though us, a vast power which we can tap – best of all. But God Himself pulling at the other end of the cord, perhaps approaching at infinite speed, the Hunter, King, Husband – that is quite another matter. There comes a moment when the children who have been playing at burglars hush suddenly: Was that a real footstep in the hall? There comes a moment when people who have been dabbling in religion, (man's search for God) suddenly draw back. Supposing we really found Him? We never meant it to come to that! Worse still, supposing He found us?