Lemonade IETF 66 Eric Burger Glenn Parsons

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Scribes and Transcribes Philip For Monday Tony For Tuesday

July 10-11, 2006IETF 66 - Montreal, QC, Canada4 Remote Logistics mp3 Feed – Jabber –Server: jabber.ietf.org –Room: lemonade –Logs: logs/lemonade/ logs/lemonade/ proceedings –

July 10-11, 2006IETF 66 - Montreal, QC, Canada5 Chair’s Agenda Agenda Bashing Status of documents Interop event OMA liaison Issue Discussion –Existing Document Open Issues Milestones Charter Discussion

July 10-11, 2006IETF 66 - Montreal, QC, Canada6 Documents to Discuss Notifications –draft-ietf-lemonade-msgevent-00 –draft-ietf-lemonade-notifications-03 –draft-ietf-lemonade-notification-protocol-00 –draft-melnikov-lemonade-imap-events-00 –draft-ietf-lemonade-imap-sieve-01 Streaming Media –draft-ietf-lemonade-streaming-00 –draft-burger-lemonade-streamctrls-00 Reconnect –draft-ietf-lemonade-reconnect-07 –draft-ietf-lemonade-reconnect-client- 00 Views –draft-ietf-lemonade-vfolder-01 –draft-cridland-imap-contexts Other Bis Components –draft-ietf-lemonade-compress-01 –draft-maes-lemonade-xencrypted-02 –draft-maes-lemonade-tcp-challenged- environments-01 –draft-ietf-lemonade-2192bis-02 Profile-bis –draft-ietf-lemonade-profile-bis-03

July 10-11, 2006IETF 66 - Montreal, QC, Canada7 Document Status (1) IETF last call –draft-melnikov-imap-search-ret-03Pub Req –draft-melnikov-imap-expunged-01AD Eval –draft-vaudreuil-futuredelivery-04IESG Eval Published: –draft-ietf-lemonade-profile-07 RFC 4550 –draft-ietf-lemonade-urlauth-08RFC 4467 –draft-ietf-lemonade-burl-04RFC 4468 –draft-ietf-lemonade-catenate-05 RFC 4469 –draft-ietf-lemonade-mms-mapping-06RFC 4356 –draft-ietf-lemonade-goals-05 RFC 4416

July 10-11, 2006IETF 66 - Montreal, QC, Canada8 Document Status (2) WG last call (starting after this meeting) –draft-ietf-lemonade-convert-04 –draft-ietf-lemonade-search-within-02 –draft-ietf-lemonade-deployments-03 IETF last call (starting after this meeting) –draft-daboo-imap-annotatemore-09 Profile-bis & convert

July 10-11, 2006IETF 66 - Montreal, QC, Canada9 LEMONADE Interop Reasons for Interop Marketing Proving viability of IETF I-D –Before RFC publication Moving to IETF Draft standard –from Proposed standard status Compliance –Conformance PICS –Interop test suite Input to OMA IOP Venue opportunities Private testing –London, UK –Oct 23-27, 2006 Telecom 2006 –LEMONADE interop –Hong Kong - Dec 4-8 3GSM 2007 –Proposed OMA MEM interop? –Barcelona - Feb 12-15

July 10-11, 2006IETF 66 - Montreal, QC, Canada10 OMA MEM liaison Response to specific questions –will study the content of notifications –Will offer an OMA MEM presentation in October timeframe –Interested in interop results – OMA tests only approved Response –…

Document Issues

July 10-11, 2006IETF 66 - Montreal, QC, Canada12 Streaming Flow –Client gets URLAUTH token from Server –Client formulates RFC 4240 request to Media Server to stream object from Server –Normal SIP content negotiation / conversion occurs “for free” Issues –Locating Media Server –VCR Controls: Burger draft / mediactrl Interest Group

July 10-11, 2006IETF 66 - Montreal, QC, Canada13 Reconnect Issues Reconnect (server state) Reconnect-client –Review Client-driven state takes up microscopically more bytes in one message over Server-driven state Client-driven state removes fate sharing bug –Open Issues: Should we give the client a possibility not to synchronize the mailbox if UIDVALIDITY didn't match? Should we depend on EXPUNGED extension for reporting expunged messages Choose one ?

July 10-11, 2006IETF 66 - Montreal, QC, Canada14 RFC2192bis Issues Include URLAUTH IMAP URL extension into this draft? Extend syntax to allow for BINARY, SEARCH return options (ESEARCH extensions), LIST- EXTENDED, etc.? (I think the answer to this question is yes, the question if we want to put all mentioned IMAP URL extensions in 2192bis) ABNF Error Will Be Fixed in Next Version

LEMONADE Profile Stéphane Maes Alexey Melnikov

July 10-11, 2006IETF 66 - Montreal, QC, Canada16 Profile MUST implement IMAP STARTTLS CATENATE URLAUTH UIDPLUS POSTADDRESS LITERAL+ CONDSTORE IDLE NAMESPACE ESMTP AUTH PIPELINING 8BITMIME CHUNKING BINARYMIME DSN SIZE ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES BURL STARTTLS

July 10-11, 2006IETF 66 - Montreal, QC, Canada17 Phase bis - MUST implement IMAP/ESMTP All of Profile Notifications Filters (e.g., SIEVE) Filter management Content Transformation √ Static –Streaming Reconnect Compression BINARY APPEND Allow Partial URLs Others Firewall issues (deployment) TCP challenged environments Proxies Object encryption Notification encryption Draft Comments to the list

July 10-11, 2006IETF 66 - Montreal, QC, Canada18 LEMONADE profile-bis major changes Updated/fixed references Updated as per fixes/changes done to RFC 4550 before publication Clarified how ESMTP SIZE should be calculated for the submitted message and when ESMTP SIZE must not be used (ongoing) Dropped use of CONVERT for compression Clarified how Lemonade extensions can be used to store the composed message in "Sent items" mailbox Many editorial comments from Randy and Zoltan

July 10-11, 2006IETF 66 - Montreal, QC, Canada19 Next Steps WGLC Starting after meeting –Many documents Track issues using Roundup – –Comments tracked in roundup –Tracking per document –Need a ‘Comment Marshall’ Enter current issues Ensures new issues are entered in tool

July 10-11, 2006IETF 66 - Montreal, QC, Canada20 Milestone Dates Goals and Milestones: DoneSubmit LEMONADE goals and use-cases specification to the IESG DoneSubmit server to server notification requirements to the IESG DoneSubmit translation to other messaging systems to the IESG Done Submit IMAP/SUBMIT extensions for forward without download to IESG Done Submit IMAP4 profile for mobile devices to the IESG Jun 05Submit IMAP4 extensions for streaming multimedia to the IESG Aug 05Submit server to server notification protocol to the IESG

July 10-11, 2006IETF 66 - Montreal, QC, Canada21 Proposed Milestone dates Charter items July 2006 – CONVERT July IMAP Search extension July Deployment Aug Reconnect (the chosen one) Aug IMAP URL Aug Notifications format Sept Notifications protocol Sept COMPRESSION Sept VFOLDER Sept IMAP SIEVE Oct LEMONADE profile bis Non charter items* June Future delivery July Annotatemore July extended search Aug TCP challenged Sept Encryption Sept Streaming * Not tracked by WG, but tracked as “interesting”

July 10-11, 2006IETF 66 - Montreal, QC, Canada22 WG Deliverables LEMONADE Goals draft-ietf-lemonade-goals IMAP4 extensions for VM playback draft-ietf-lemonade-convert IMAP4 extensions for forwarding draft-ietf-lemonade-burl draft-ietf-lemonade-urlauth draft-ietf-lemonade-catenate IMAP4 extensions & profile for diverse endpoints draft-ietf-lemonade-reconnect draft-ietf-lemonade-futuredelivery draft-ietf-lemonade-profile draft-ietf-lemonade-rfc2192bis Server-to-Server Notification Protocol draft-ietf-lemonade-notify-s2s Translation to and from other messaging systems draft-ietf-lemonade-mms-mapping

July 10-11, 2006IETF 66 - Montreal, QC, Canada23 Thanks! Mail List: –General Discussion: –To Subscribe: –In Body: in body 'subscribe' –Archive: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/lemonade/ Supplemental Work Group Page