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IHEPCCC activities ICFA workshop on digital divide Guy Wormser IHEPCCC chair LAL Orsay

ICFA workshop on digital divide, Daegu, 26 May What is IHEPCCC HEPCCC committee created in Europe in ~1980 to coordinate HEP computing. Mainly centered around CERN at the time. Membership: Directors of the main European computing centers Important role as a discussion forum and coordinating body throughout the years. Creation of HTASC, a permanent technical advisory body. HEPCCC father of the DATAGRID initiative. In 2001, it was realized that it was mandatory to include membership from all over the world to the increased worldwide nature of HEP computing IHEPCCC was created in 2003 as a ICFA subcommittee, « sister » to SCIC, organizer of this workshop

ICFA workshop on digital divide, Daegu, 26 May IHEPCCC mandate Preamble …an efficient information exchange on computing issues between the major HEP centers in the world. Missions …forum between the main persons in charge of HEP computing, by gathering and distributing information about all relevant issues in HEP computing, and especially those with a global nature. – Typical examples : new technology trends, computing centers strategic policies, security issues, recommendation of standard practices, presentation of R&D results, comparison of various equipments performances. The other missions include: – Issuing statements and recommendations concerning computing in the HEP community. – Serving as an interface to other scientific domains on matters of computing. – Working in close connection with the ICFA SCIC, the physics regional organizations, and the HICB coordinating the grid projects in HEP. – Reporting to ICFA (ie grabbing the attention of all the HEP major lab directors) –

ICFA workshop on digital divide, Daegu, 26 May IHEPCCC membership Asia Setsuya Kawabata (KEK-Japan), Hesheng Chen (Beijing-China), Dongchul Son (Daegu- South Korea), S. Banerjee(Tata-India), Geoff Taylor (Melbourne- Australia) North America Paul Avery (Gainesville-US), Bruce Gibbard (BNL-US), Richard Mount (SLAC- US), Randall Sobie (Victoria-Canada), Vicky White(FNAL-US), Frank Wuerthwein (San Diego-US) Europe Manuel Delfino (Barcelona-Spain), Matthias Kasemann (DESY-Germany), Mirco Mazzucato (Padova-Italy), Wolfgang von Rueden (CERN), Michal Turala (Crakow-Poland), Peter Watkins (Birmingham, UK), Guy Wormser (Orsay- France), Chair Rest of the world Viacheslav Ilyin (Moscow-Russia), Abdeslam Houmadda (Casablanca- Morocco), Alberto Santoro (Rio, Brazil)

ICFA workshop on digital divide, Daegu, 26 May Consensus on objectives A/ Guarantee the best possible conditions for the advent on a Grid-based HEP world wide computing A.1/ Make sure that all conditions are met to foster the development of viable HEP grid(s) A.2/ Make sure that they are interoperable and secure A.3/ Make sure that all regions of the HEP world have an easy access to them B/ Foster collaboration and training in HEP computing B.1/ Make sure that the best possible conditions are met to foster the common development of software tools and standards B.2/ Make sure that the best possible conditiond are met for best practice exchange and training

ICFA workshop on digital divide, Daegu, 26 May IHEPCCC meetings Inaugural meeting May 2004 in Barcelona – CERN Oct 2004, just after CHEP04 – South Korea, May Seattle Nov Colocated with SC2005 Feb 2006 Mombai, colocated with CHEP2006 Nov 2006 Europe Spring 2007 US Informal information: Report during Grid Deployment Board meeting at CERN June 22, (CERN) in Europe to let the european community aware of the developments

ICFA workshop on digital divide, Daegu, 26 May IHEPCCC internal organisation Bureau : D. Son, B. Gibbard, GW Working group on Technical Advisory body: W. Von Rudden, R. Mount, P. Watkins, H. Chen Working group on creating a HEP Virtual Organization : M. Delfino, R. Santoro, Y. Watase Working group on Training in HEP Computing: V. Ilyin (chair)

ICFA workshop on digital divide, Daegu, 26 May Technical Advisory Body IHEPCCC chose to use HEPiX as the main provider of ad hoc task forces experts Contact taken with HEPiX chairpersons First cases to study : – HEP VO issues –Linux Operating systems Future potential topics: –Better coordination of HEP sofware development –Videoconference and other collaborating tools –Data storage management –All suggestions welcome

ICFA workshop on digital divide, Daegu, 26 May HEPiX and IHEPCCC IHEPCCC would like to use HEPiX as a Technical Advisory body Membership of ad-hoc task forces that IHEPCCC decides to launch suggested by HEPiX to IHEPCCC. Based on volunteering (no financial support available) IHEPCCC is happy to discuss on any points that HEPiX would like to raise HEPiX report in IHEPCCC meetings IHEPCCC report in HEPiX Important HEPiX issues can be brought through IHEPCCC to the attention of the main world lab directors during ICFA meetings.

ICFA workshop on digital divide, Daegu, 26 May Digital divide issues HEP is playing an important role in promoting science of many devopping countries Digital divide workshop in Korea in May –Next IHEPCCC meeting colocated there CHEP06 in India Sharing the knowledge around the Mediterranea conf in Casablanca Sept 05 Creation of a training task force within IHEPCCC (V. Ilyin chair) Can we do more? preparation of World Summit on IST : Tunis, Durban,…

ICFA workshop on digital divide, Daegu, 26 May Towards a HEP VO Main idea: take advantage on the new technologies to offer minimum computing services to any bona fide HEP member in any HEP lab. Solve the travelling physicist problem Create new services for the community Based on Certificate technology Requires to maintain an accurate list of HEP VO members. Has to rely on the institutions. Requires a list of institutions Technical implementation to be discussed with experts

ICFA workshop on digital divide, Daegu, 26 May Towards a HEP VO. Proposal to ICFA Recommendation 1: ICFA should agree and disseminate a definition of what constitutes an individual who can be rightfully considered a member of the HEP community. Recommendation 2: Encourage the creation and maintenance of a unique list of Institutions which have people working in HEP (“HEP Institutions”). Recommendation 3: Encourage one or more Institutions which have the necessary capabilities, to make available to trusted parties in the HEP community in a secure electronic form the list of HEP Institutions and verification contacts.

ICFA workshop on digital divide, Daegu, 26 May Software duplication The degree of duplication of the various software efforts was really striking –For instance, one Mass storage software per big lab –Many different grid flavors From the most tiny technical piece to the large frameworks Could be partly be reduced by more information (no enthusiasm from the committee to go in that direction) How to promote the co development of HEP software (there are some success stories like GEANT4) Present trend to go away fom commercial software

ICFA workshop on digital divide, Daegu, 26 May Conclusion IHEPCCC recently created and off for a good start as a discussion forum and information exchange at the worldwide scale in HEP HEPiX has been picked up as the natural companion for technical advices, on a voluntary basis IHEPCCC provides a good way to attract attention of world lab directors on computing issues. Le’s take avantage of it. Tell us your messages! How can we help SCIC to fight digital divide? Future potential working groups have been identified.