Report GRB ad hoc Working Group ASEP by the Chairman of the ASEP WG GRB 49; February 2009 Informal document No. GRB-49-07 (49th GRB, 16-18 February 2009,

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Report GRB ad hoc Working Group ASEP by the Chairman of the ASEP WG GRB 49; February 2009 Informal document No. GRB (49th GRB, February 2009, agenda item 3(c))

Reminder: why ASEP Annex 3 covers the part of the engine map with lower revs Decision made to have Additional Sound Emission Provisions to cover a wider part of the engine map (higher revs).

Products to deliver: A proposal to GRB for the text (test method, data processing to test result, limits and control range) of annex 10, and proposals for necessary changes in the main body.

Meetings: 1. Amsterdam2005 November 2. The Hague2006 January 3. Geneva2006 February 3a-d Task Force2006 Feb-Aug 4. Geneva2006 September 5. The Hague2006 November 6. Geneva2007 February 7. The Hague2007 May 8. The Hague2007 October 9. Ann Arbor USA2008 January 10. Geneva2008 February 11. Tokyo2008 June 12.Geneva2008 September 13.Paris2008 November 13a.Expert group Paris2008 December 14.Paris2009 January

Why so long? Differences with Annex 3: 1.Acceptance 2.New Concept (point  range) 3.Limitation discussion

What did we accomplish: System Legal wording Understanding main issue

System: how it works step 1: anchor point Anchor point in gear i comes from Annex 3 (L wot,i, n BB,i )

System: how it works step 2: ASEP measurements 4 additional measurements in gear i within boundaries

System: how it works step 3: construction of slope Calculate slope trough measurements Slope is maximized to X dB/1000 rpm; X determines stringency (to be agreed on)

System: how it works step 4: add margin Margin = Limit A3 - L urban,A3 (bigger for silent vehicles)

System: how it works step 5: limit line Limit = anchor point + margin + Y + slope Y determines stringency (to be agreed on)

System: how it works step 6: compare measurements to limit Every measurement from step 2 is checked against limit

System: how it works step 7: repeat in other gears Other gears than gear i are corrected for different tyre noise contribution In principle all gears and modes have to fulfill ASEP, however –Gears higher than i+1 may be exempted –Gear 1 likely to be skipped due to engine speed overrun within test track –In practice mostly only gear 2 and 3

Legal wording See informal document no 3 Agreement on many issues Some technical issues to be dealt with (like CVT’s)

Main Issue It’s all about STRINGENCY

ISSUE RAISED: TNO “the present proposal will result in a very undesirable situation: compared to the R51.02 regulation that is currently in use and also is based on an acceleration test, the OICA proposal will result in an extra driveline noise allowance for most vehicles, which can reach up to 10 dB with an average of about 3 dB.”

Expert Group Looked to it in details Came up with analyses

Stringency : Two aspects – limit – area of control (boundary conditions)

Factors influencing stringency A table has been made summing up the most important factors. In rank order –Limit annex 3 –Boundary conditions annex 3 –Limit of annex 10 (anchor point, slope and margin) –Boundary conditions annex 10 So: annex 3 has more influence on stringency than annex 10 itself

Limit A3  Limit A10 Multiplier effect (kp factor): up to dB lack of stringency in Annex3 means: Up to 1.7 dB less stringent in Annex 10 PM: higher PMR  less stringent limit

Boundary Condition Acceleration Annex 3 Boundary condition a max =2 m/s 2 forces vehicles to higher gear/lower revs Means: anchor point annex 10 is going left Means: Annex 10 limitation weaker For Annex 3 little effect due to k p compensation

Anchor point Annex 10 to the left Results in higher limit curve annex 10

Advise of ASEP Group to GRB Annex 3: Reconsider 2 m/s 2 boundary condition –little effect on annex 3 result –increases significantly effectiveness Annex 10

Limitation Annex 10 Anchor Point, Slope, Margin That’s our job, so we are dealing only with a part of the stringency issue

Area of control due to boundary conditions Annex 10 General: 3 forces to lower the engine speed Engine speed: boundary means direct limitation Vehicle speed: (related to test tracks lay out) Lower speed  lower revs Acceleration:  skipping low gears  high revs not covered

By the way Learned from R41 ad hoc Motorcycle group: Direct limit on the L wot,i

Results Limitation Discussion * in relation to discussion about Annex 3 Boundary Condition Acc < 2 m/s 2

Other Issues Treatment CVT’s (raised by Japan) Replacement Silencers: workload and practical problems (raised by Clepa)

Remaining work to be done: Fine tuning method (CVT’s) Finalize Wording Stringency

Thank You

Need for ASEP control range at low engine speed (example 1) Noise does not decrease at low engine speed

Need for ASEP control range at low engine speed (example 2) Noise increases at low engine speed

Effect of changes in measuring method (example of 2 vehicles)

Effect of changes in measuring method (estimated effect total population)