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doc.: IEEE /1389r3 Submission Nov 2004 C. Wright, Azimuth Systems Task Group T Wireless Performance Meeting Slides and Report Charles R. Wright

doc.: IEEE /1389r3 Submission Nov 2004 C. Wright, Azimuth Systems TGT Wireless Performance WG Report (4 slides)

doc.: IEEE /1389r3 Submission Nov 2004 C. Wright, Azimuth Systems TGT Report Total meeting time: 14 hours Good strong attendance Plans: –Appoint permanent secretary, editor Tom Alexander appointed editor Several volunteers for secretary, but none permanent –Hear technical presentations

doc.: IEEE /1389r3 Submission Nov 2004 C. Wright, Azimuth Systems Progress during the week We heard many good technical presentations Much excellent discussion of framework continued We are starting to really get into details of metrics and methodologies now

doc.: IEEE /1389r3 Submission Nov 2004 C. Wright, Azimuth Systems Presentations 11-04/1203r1 – “Proposed template for TGT draft”, Alexander 11-04/1419r0 – “A Taxonomy of Metrics”, Alexander 11-04/1420r0 – “Link layer metrics proposal”, Alexander 11-04/1402r0 – “Traceable Measurements of PHY Layer Performance”, Foegelle 11-04/1222r1 – “Measurement Methodology Based on Approved Framework”, Pirzada 11-04/1476r0 – “A Proposed Controlled Open Air Test Methodology”, Kobayashi 11-04/1441r0, “TGt/WNM Collaboration”, Kwak 11-04/1397r0 – “Rate vs. Range Test Methodology”, Fanny Mlinarsky 11-04/1466r0, “Some Concepts of Rate Management Testing”, Wilhoyte TG meeting slides and report, 11-04/1389r3 TG minutes, 11-04/xxxx – to be supplied

doc.: IEEE /1389r3 Submission Nov 2004 C. Wright, Azimuth Systems Telconferences Planned TGT is asking for a WG motion to approve teleconferences conducted starting two weeks hence to two weeks after the November plenary –Will be presented in the blanket telecon motion Thursdays, 12 noon Eastern Time, weekly –Phone info to be posted on reflector First telecon will be December 2nd

doc.: IEEE /1389r3 Submission Nov 2004 C. Wright, Azimuth Systems Charles R. Wright Welcome to TGT Evaluation of Wireless Performance

doc.: IEEE /1389r3 Submission Nov 2004 C. Wright, Azimuth Systems 6. Patents IEEE standards may include the known use of patent(s), including patent applications, provided the IEEE receives assurance from the patent holder or applicant with respect to patents essential for compliance with both mandatory and optional portions of the standard. This assurance shall be provided without coercion and prior to approval of the standard (or reaffirmation when a patent becomes known after initial approval of the standard). This assurance shall be a letter that is in the form of either a) A general disclaimer to the effect that the patentee will not enforce any of its present or future patent(s) whose use would be required to implement the proposed IEEE standard against any person or entity using the patent(s) to comply with the standard or b) A statement that a license will be made available without compensation or under reasonable rates, with reasonable terms and conditions that are demonstrably free of any unfair discrimination This assurance shall apply, at a minimum, from the date of the standard's approval to the date of the standard's withdrawal and is irrevocable during that period. IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws on Patents in Standards Approved by IEEE-SA Standards Board – December 2002

doc.: IEEE /1389r3 Submission Nov 2004 C. Wright, Azimuth Systems Inappropriate Topics for IEEE WG/TG/SG Meetings Don’t discuss licensing terms or conditions Don’t discuss product pricing, territorial restrictions or market share Don’t discuss ongoing litigation or threatened litigation Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed… do formally object. If you have questions, contact the IEEE Patent Committee Administrator at Approved by IEEE-SA Standards Board – December 2002

doc.: IEEE /1389r3 Submission Nov 2004 C. Wright, Azimuth Systems A Friendly Reminder… Don’t forget to log your attendance! – Attendance server problems? –Talk to Harry Worstell

doc.: IEEE /1389r3 Submission Nov 2004 C. Wright, Azimuth Systems Proposed Agenda for San Antonio Meetings (1/2) 1.Chair comments 2.Appoint secretary 3.Approval of agenda 4.Approve minutes 1.Berlin 11-04/1166r0 5.Call for presentations (in order specified) /1203r1 – “Proposed template for TGT draft”, Tom Alexander, 15 min /1419r0 – “A Taxonomy of Metrics”, Tom Alexander, 15 min /1420r0 – “Link layer metrics proposal”, Tom Alexander, 45 min /1402r0 – “Traceable Measurements of PHY Layer Performance”, Michael Foegelle, 45 min /1397r0 – “Rate vs. Range Test Methodology”, Fanny Mlinarsky, 20 min /1222r1 – “Measurement Methodology Based on Approved Framework”, Fahd Pirzada, 45 min (9 AM Wednesday, discussion extended to Thursday, 10:30 AM, for ½ hour) /1476r0 – “A Proposed Controlled Open Air Test Methodology”, Mark Kobayashi, 45 min /xxxx – Second usage scenario (multimedia/streaming), Fahd Pirzada (withdrawn by presenter)

doc.: IEEE /1389r3 Submission Nov 2004 C. Wright, Azimuth Systems Proposed Agenda for San Antonio Meetings (2/2) 6.Appointment of editor 7.Chair comments / progress from telecons 6.This document – “Short Refresher on Standards Development in ” 7.Discussion: 11-04/863r2 “Test Plan Template,” and proposal requirements and selection criteria 8.Presentations 6.Given in the order listed above 9.New Items / Any other Business 6.Approve minutes from last telecon, 11-04/1417r0 7.Planning for January meeting /1466r0, “Some Concepts of Rate Management Testing”, Mike Wilhoyte /1397r0 – “Rate vs. Range Test Methodology”, Fanny Mlinarsky, 20 min (moved from previous place on agenda due to conflicts) 10.Other Task Group motions 11.Standing Orders: 5:00 PM Thursday – any late votes that must meet the 4- hour rule

doc.: IEEE /1389r3 Submission Nov 2004 C. Wright, Azimuth Systems TGT 30 minute recess Meeting Schedule for week TGT Closing business, motions at 5:00 pm Opening, confirm editor, secretary, writing drafts, template discussion MondayTuesdayWednesdayThursday Lunch Dinner 8:00 10:00 10:30 12:30 1:30 3:30 4:00 6:00 7:30 9:30

doc.: IEEE /1389r3 Submission Nov 2004 C. Wright, Azimuth Systems Timeline Going Forward … August 16 (?) –NESCOM Approval! September meeting –First meeting as a TG –Technical Presentations! November –Proposals for inclusion into draft January –Proposals for inclusion into draft March –Review of draft in preparation for LB We are here!

doc.: IEEE /1389r3 Submission Nov 2004 C. Wright, Azimuth Systems Progress since Berlin Held six teleconferences Presentations/notes: – t-bottom-up-evaluation performance-testing.ppt – t-measurement-methodology- proposal-based-approved-framework.ppt – t-link-layer-metrics-proposal-tgt.ppt – t-rate-vs-range-test- methodology.ppt

doc.: IEEE /1389r3 Submission Nov 2004 C. Wright, Azimuth Systems A Short Refresher on Standards Development in

doc.: IEEE /1389r3 Submission Nov 2004 C. Wright, Azimuth Systems 50,000 foot view of the process Call for Interest (9.1.1) Study Group (9.1.2) Task Group (9.1.3) Working Group Ballot (9.1.4) Sponsor Ballot (9.1.5) Standards Board Approval (9.1.6) Publication (9.1.7) We are here Paragraph references are from Policies and Procedures, 11-04/510r0 1 to 3 months 2 months to 1 year 2 months to 4 years 2 months to 1 year

doc.: IEEE /1389r3 Submission Nov 2004 C. Wright, Azimuth Systems How to write a draft 1.Write a proposal Describe in a MSWord document a list of “instructions to the editor” (aka “draft normative text”). For whole new sections, this will be 100% new text/figures. Create Powerpoint presentation based on above to describe salient details 2.Submit both docs to server at least 4 session hours before intent to vote on proposal The “4-hour rule” is part of rules and is strenuously enforced Why? It gives people time to read, understand and consider the proposal TGT can also rule that longer period of time is required Helpful to announce existence of the documents through the reflector 3.Make presentation before the group 4.Make motion to accept proposal (the “draft normative text”) into the draft 75% majority required for any changes to a draft (additions/changes/deletions) If approved by group, editor will incorporate into the draft

doc.: IEEE /1389r3 Submission Nov 2004 C. Wright, Azimuth Systems Another way to write a draft Have an open discussion of some aspect of the draft Ask editor if the direction is clear If answer is “yes,” editor is empowered to make the necessary changes –Approve by a vote the outcome, expressed as a written motion ►Both methods are acceptable under the right circumstances!

doc.: IEEE /1389r3 Submission Nov 2004 C. Wright, Azimuth Systems process for draft approval Policies & Procedures 11-04/510r0, §9.1.4

doc.: IEEE /1389r3 Submission Nov 2004 C. Wright, Azimuth Systems What happens in Sponsor Balloting? Voters in the “Sponsor Pool”: –Review draft –Make comments –Vote Task Group must –Resolve these comments –Create revised draft –Submit for another round of review and voting Process follows similar flow chart as on previous slide Sponsor Ballot pool formed by WG chair from interested individual members of IEEE Standards Association (SA)

doc.: IEEE /1389r3 Submission Nov 2004 C. Wright, Azimuth Systems Rules about Drafts Offical drafts are owned by IEEE and available only to –Voting members (through – meeting attendees ( at the meeting onlyhttp:// In other words, you will need to be a voting member or come to the meetings to get current copies of the draft!

doc.: IEEE /1389r3 Submission Nov 2004 C. Wright, Azimuth Systems Slides created during the meeting

doc.: IEEE /1389r3 Submission Nov 2004 C. Wright, Azimuth Systems Straw Poll #1 Is the group in favor of accepting document 11-04/1203r1 as the starting point for the TGT draft, provided clauses 5,6,7,8 are deleted? Yes: 16 No: 0

doc.: IEEE /1389r3 Submission Nov 2004 C. Wright, Azimuth Systems Questions from IETF BMWG These questions will be considered in detail during a future telecon: –Minimize the radio-specific aspects of the testing, and hence minimize the variability of the results. The Signal to Noise Ratio Section (3.5.9) is primarily where the topic is addressed, - but there are other key points throughout Section 3.5 –Test Conditions. I'm interested to know if the committee members agree that the repeatability goal was achieved in Tom & Scott's draft

doc.: IEEE /1389r3 Submission Nov 2004 C. Wright, Azimuth Systems New Business

doc.: IEEE /1389r3 Submission Nov 2004 C. Wright, Azimuth Systems Motion Motion to Empower TGT to hold Telecons –Date: Thursdays –Time: 12 noon Eastern time –Duration: 1 hour –Next: Dec 2, 2004 Yes: 3 No: 0 Abstain: 0

doc.: IEEE /1389r3 Submission Nov 2004 C. Wright, Azimuth Systems Upcoming Telecon Schedule Dec 2 Telecon Dec 9 Telecon Dec 16 Telecon Dec 23 Dec 30 Jan 6 Telecon Jan 13 Telecon Thanksgiving (USA) 802 Plenary San Antonio Interim Monterey During the Dec 16 telecon, we will decide whether there is enough interest in having telecons on Dec 23 and Dec 30

doc.: IEEE /1389r3 Submission Nov 2004 C. Wright, Azimuth Systems Backup Information

doc.: IEEE /1389r3 Submission Nov 2004 C. Wright, Azimuth Systems Teleconference Info Date: Thursdays Time: 12 AM Eastern time (1600 UT) Duration: 1 hour Phone # International: Passcode: Next: December 2, 2004

doc.: IEEE /1389r3 Submission Nov 2004 C. Wright, Azimuth Systems Reflector Original reflector: –Set up under aegis of EMC Society reflector: –Requires membership to send to it –Can be monitored through web site rules require all SG communication to be through reflector Use of WPP reflector will be discontinued after March meeting

doc.: IEEE /1389r3 Submission Nov 2004 C. Wright, Azimuth Systems References for Newcomers (1 of 2) Web site: – Document server: – –Sign up for an account –No need to be an member to get an account –Once logged in, “join” : Click on “ WLAN WG” on left In center window, choose to become a new member –Click again on “ WLAN WG” An additional subitem called “Documents” will be revealed – click on it –You’ve reached the document server!

doc.: IEEE /1389r3 Submission Nov 2004 C. Wright, Azimuth Systems References for Newcomers (2 of 2) Document numbering scheme –WG-YY-NNNN-RR-gggg-English-document-title.ext WG = 802 working group number, e.g. “11” as in YY = two digits of year NNNN = document number RR = document revision number gggg = group to which the document pertains –Example: wpp-telecon-agenda-19-feb-04.ppt