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EPICS-2010 Summary Europe‘03 EPICS-2010 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?

Summary Europe‘03 EPICS-2010 What will control systems Look like in 2010?

EPICS-2010 Summary Europe‘03 Why should somebody want to know this? Another crazy idea from Matthias? He‘s not allone... even worse!?

EPICS-2010 Summary Europe‘03 Why I think that it‘s important to think about EPICS 2010 Two little stories –Once upon a time... –Once upon another time...

EPICS-2010 Summary Europe‘03 The Synchronous-Put Proposal (How to get and set flavored CA data) ((Eric)) 1 st Step Reactions: 1.Do you really need this? 2.This is easy – just take a set of records... 3.We have solved this already. Our timing system... 4.I would write a sequencer...

EPICS-2010 Summary Europe‘03 The Synchronous-Put Proposal 2 nd Step It seems that we really do not have a solution for this problem. But I need new functionality in IOC-core! ->This might break existing applications<- --- yes you are right --- I need add ons in channel access to solve the problem! -> There‘s no funding for this <- -- true --

EPICS-2010 Summary Europe‘03 The Synchronous-Put Proposal 3 rd Step Is it not possible to get what has been implemented decades ago at LANCE, or SLAC, or Fermilab? Currently not! We have two problems: 1.Technical: There‘s currently no solution 2.We have no mechanism to handle such a problem and to find even a long term solution.

EPICS-2010 Summary Europe‘03 EPICS 2010 We are currently strong to make incremental steps –EPICS has reached a mature state (this way) –Nobody wants to change this! But Let‘s start to think about the long term future of EPICS Not: What is currently necessary? But: –What is necessary on the long run? –How can we get prepared for future technical trends?

EPICS-2010 Summary Europe‘03 How? A meeting –Such a group must be small –As many labs as possible should contribute –Get external expertise Three meetings (2 days each) 1.June 2003 (Europe) 2.October 2003(Asia) (Thursday/Friday before ICALEPCS) 3.Spring 2004 (USA)

EPICS-2010 Summary Europe‘03 Participants EPICS-2010 in Europe

EPICS-2010 Summary Europe‘03 June 2003 (Europe) Agenda Monday 16th 8: :00 with half an hour break 12: :30 lunch 13: :00 with half an hour break 17: :00 wrap up of the first day Tuesday 17th 8: :00 with half an hour break 12: :30 lunch 13: :00 with half an hour break 16: :00 wrap up of the two days (with half an hour break)

EPICS-2010 Summary Europe‘03 Agenda Monday 16 th; 8: : Networks and Protocols; OO 12: :30 lunch 13: : lessons learned 14:00 – 15: IOC-Core 15:30 – 17: EPICS Database-Engines/ Device- Implementations 17: :00 wrap up of the first day

EPICS-2010 Summary Europe‘03 Agenda Tuesday 17th 8:30 – 10:00 Web Services; Redundancy; EPICS-Industrial 10: :00 Plug and Play support for I/O; 12: :30 lunch 13: :00 Applications; Other Fields; Organization/Communication (GAN?) 16: :30 wrap up of the two days

EPICS-2010 Summary Europe‘03 Charge of the group: Form a visionary look of future control systems. Specifically: What will EPICS 2010 look like?

EPICS-2010 Summary Europe‘03 How we are going to work? Any idea is a good idea No idea is questioned Questions are allowed to clarify the main aspects if a new idea Additional ideas to a given topic are welcome Short presentations 'one slide shows' are welcome Write down your ideas and throw them in at appropriate times

EPICS-2010 Summary Europe‘03 How did we work?

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EPICS-2010 Summary Europe‘03 Preparing Presentations over lunch...

EPICS-2010 Summary Europe‘03 Examples of presentations andpoints which have been discussed

EPICS-2010 Summary Europe‘03 Components (Andy Goetz)

EPICS-2010 Summary Europe‘03 Objects

EPICS-2010 Summary Europe‘03 Applications in Astronomy (Nick Rees)

EPICS-2010 Summary Europe‘03 Lessons learned (Nick Rees)

EPICS-2010 Summary Europe‘03 Lessons learned (Karen White)

EPICS-2010 Summary Europe‘03 Automatic Code Generation (Phil Duval)

EPICS-2010 Summary Europe‘03 EPICS Industrial (Matthias Clausen)

EPICS-2010 Summary Europe‘03 Intelligent I/O (FDT) (Matthias Clausen)

EPICS-2010 Summary Europe‘03 Application Framework (Mark Plesko)

EPICS-2010 Summary Europe‘03 Results: Interest groups (1) Application Services –Name-Service –Logging-Service –Archiving-Service –Alarm-Service –..... –Application Framework

EPICS-2010 Summary Europe‘03 Results: Interest groups (2) EPICS-OO and Networking –How much OO does EPICS need? –Do we need a second network protocol? CORBA? DDS? –If only one – which one?

EPICS-2010 Summary Europe‘03 Results: Interest groups (3) Managing and Creation of Databases (4) EQS (EPICS Quick Startup) (5) News on the use of Ethernet and intelligent I/O (collection wiki only) Interest groups run dedicated wiki‘s (Public Web pages) Most Interest Groups have members outside the EPICS collaboration.

EPICS-2010 Summary Europe‘03 Contacts On the Web: EPICS-2010.desy.de Mailing List: Wiki‘S: TBA

EPICS-2010 Summary Europe‘03 Next Steps Interest Groups will collect information which can be presented during the next meeting. Results of the first two meetings will be presented during ICALEPCS All EPICS collaborating labs are encouraged to check the possible manpower/ financial support for EPICS-2010 developments.

EPICS-2010 Summary Europe‘03 Back to the Roots: EPICS 2003 Next meeting: 12 th October 2003 In Korea (Sunday before ICALEPCS)

EPICS-2010 Summary Europe‘03 Finally Thanks to: Hamid for the nice speech yesterday Bob for the background organization Mark and his team for being an excellent host of this meeting!