About Socrates 469BC Poor (stone-cutter) Fought for Athens in Peloponnesian War In later life started wandering around being philosophical… and influencing.

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About Socrates 469BC Poor (stone-cutter) Fought for Athens in Peloponnesian War In later life started wandering around being philosophical… and influencing the youth of Athens to think more critically (including Plato) 399BC On trail for vague charge and sentenced to death (with hemlock)

About Plato As a youth he was a follow of Socrates Fairly rich In 399 BC began to write the Dialogues Based on the dialogues we know a lot about Socrates, and we also have a firm grip on classical philosophy, which continued to influence western thought till today.

Phaedrus By Plato Presented by Thomas Wombaker

Audience hook Socrates describes his interest “like a hungry cow before whom a bough or a bunch of fruit is waved”(6). And he is “inspired with a phrenzy”(10). Explains his thirst for knowledge

Pages 1-25

How Socrates’ first argument is structured Part 1 How Love affects mind, body, and language Part 2 Split into two sections Section 1: The effects on a person when they are loved Section2: The effects on a person when they are no longer loved

Ethos Definition: The appeal to a writers character Ethos is used to show Plato’s philosophic ideas

Logos Definition: The appeal to reason Throughout the book. There is a transformation from the logos to a view on behaviors in a materialistic world.

Pathos Definition: The appeal to the readers emotions Phaedrus is a play so it is meant to appeal to the crowds emotions

Questions How is Logos present other than what has been mentioned? Are there any specific examples?

Pages 56-76

Discussion on Rhetoric Definition: A way of persuasion or persuasive speaking/writing Phaedrus’ says that truth isn’t needed

Socrates Point Reading gives a false feeling of knowledge because a book is just data. In the same, he says that writing affects memory negatively. (69)

Dialectic Socrates talks about how he forms and argument. division and collection- process of how to gain knowledge. Defines love in this fashion Split and define all parts to gain a full understanding of the topic

Questions Do you agree with Socrates that reading and writing have a direct correlation to memory? Why? Do you think truth is needed to make a speech?