An additional Low Frequency Gravitational Wave Interferometric Detector for Advanced LIGO? Riccardo DeSalvo California Institute of Technology Pasadena.

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An additional Low Frequency Gravitational Wave Interferometric Detector for Advanced LIGO? Riccardo DeSalvo California Institute of Technology Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 2 Scientific motivations New observations performed after the design of Adv-LIGO indicate the presence of new possible LF GW sources Data summary from Cole’s Miller based on X-ray and optical observations of galaxies and globular clusters including Chandra’s observations of X- ray sources

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 3 Chandra’s observations of M82 Matsumoto et al. 28 October January 2000

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 4 Chandra’s observations Matsumoto et al. Observed x-ray sources in globular clusters Eddington mass of sources 30~10 3 s.m. Emission implies a companion So many companions imply high density in the cluster (optically observed) High density implies frictional braking –Kinetic energy tend s to be equalized in encounters, fat guys get slowed Many clusters have the same pattern

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 5 What do I gather from globular cluster observations Stars above 50 s.m. directly evolve in BH (collapsars) Stars below s.m. (above 8) rapidly (~10-15My) go supernova and leave behind 1.4 s.m. NS –(In between (30-50 s.m.) smaller BH are generated) Stars >50 s.m. slow down by dynamical friction (  =10~50My) and sink to the center of the cluster where they may be induced to merge –In encounters kinetic energy gets equalised, heavy masses get slowed –Density of ~ million stars per cubic parsec observed –Mass segregation occurs Smaller stars (<8 s.m., including NSs) collect the kinetic energy, get accelerated and may be dispersed out of the cluster

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 6 What do I gather from globular cluster and galaxy observations 1.The only electromagnetically visible BH are those accreting from companion star. The accretion stage is short (~10My) Why so many are visible? Frequent Encounters of binaries with singles tend to tie and tighten up the bigger guy and fling out the smaller of the three 2.X-ray sources compatible with several 30 to 1000 s.m. BH per galaxy are observed by Chandra and XMM, many more may lurk 3.Velocity dispersion in globular cluster centers imply presence of IMBH or BH clusters

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 7 Optical observations: inspirals may be ongoing at a catalyzed pace Galaxies Globular clusters In some Globular clusters the speed distribution of stars is compatible with central concentrated and invisible mass ~10 3 s.m. Either a single, a binary or a cluster of BH must be at the center (Note: Statistics increased with respect to this figure)

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 8 Optical observations: inspirals may be ongoing at a catalyzed pace In some Globular clusters the speed distribution of stars is compatible with central concentrated and invisible mass ~10 3 s.m. Either a single, binary or cluster of BH must be at the center –(as well as the other BH observed farther away from the center) Swirl is observed in the core stars around that hidden mass But frictional braking would rapidly eliminate the observed swirl! Core stars around central BH cluster can be swirled up while hardening the massive binaries at the center (controversial but growing evidence) A BH cluster must be present and being hardened And will coalesce at rapid rate! << 10My !!!! Is this a Smoking gun?

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 9 What is relevant for GW observations Useful chirp for heavier masses ends at 30 to 100 Hz Available signals start above s.m. –Close to ISCO the orbits are relativistic and difficult to make templates (still lower effective frequency range for detection) L.F. sensitivity necessary to trigger with optimal filters ~10 of BH-BH inspiral events per year are expected GW Signals from massive BH will carry farther than NS –We will map galaxy clusters farther away than NS-NS inspirals

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 10 Consequences Do we have evidence that low frequency sensitivity is of astrophysical interest? Of course yes! Is the present Advanced LIGO best suited to cover the new possible sources indicated by Chandra and other optical observations? Not without some significant changes –10% power / different finesse –Fused Silica instead of Sapphire mirrors (bulk TN) –Supersized, double weight mirrors (coating TN) –Double length suspensions (susp. TN)

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 11 Consequences –Note: –Adv-LIGO is designed to be broadband and to cover a different class of sources and goes as low in frequency as practical as possible while focusing on the higher frequency end –by specializing interferometer design is it possible to do better at either HF or LF than a single instrument in a single configuration can. –It is practically impossible to optimally cover both ends with a single design – Separate design lead to better optimizations.

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 12 Consequences Do we need a low frequency companion for Advanced LIGO to cover the new possible sources indicated by Chandra and other optical observations? Of course yes! –Note: –Adv-LIGO is designed to cover a different class of sources and goes as low in frequency as practical as possible while focusing on the higher frequency end –It is practically impossible to cover both ends with a single design – Separate design lead to better optimizations.

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 13 Question Can we technically build and operate an interferometer at Lower Frequency than Adv-LIGO?

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 14 This curve was drawn when Fused silica was believed to have a Q-factor of 30 Million (and Sapphire T-E limited) Thermoelastic limit Bulk Thermal noise limit

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 15 The new TN situation Now the bulk F.S. TN floor is crumbling. Two measurements: Kenji’s Q- factor measurements Fused Silica have been observed to be capable of Q factors at and above 200 Million (Gregg Harry, Steve Penn) –Note: Sapphire show equally high Q factors but, unfortunately, the fact is irrelevant because of the thermo-elastic effect

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 16 Kenji Numata results The Q-factor improves at lower frequency How much better does it gets at 100 Hz?

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 17 Let me cheat for a moment Surface and Coating losses? Hz Where are the substrate losses at f ~100 Hz? Steve and Gregg’s result Extrapolated to test mass shape 10 4 Hz 10 -9

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 18 What can we expect?. Coating TN Disregarded! Sapphire thermoelastic Fused Q=200M This opens the road To LF Note:At high Frequency Sapphire is preferable because of power dissipation limitations for Fused Silica

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 19 Implications at L.F. Fused silica allows for much lower thermal noise floor at L. F. if coating problem is solved The lower beam power can be tolerated. –No need for the higher thermal conductivity of Sapphire. Fused silica marginal for Adv-LIGO mirror size and power level At frequencies lower than Adv. LIGO (and larger beam sizes) the beam power problem rapidly disappears ~1/f 2 The limit will be given by coating thermal noise. Advanced coatings and Large spot sizes are the solution to offset this limit –Coating thermal noise ~ (spot diameter) -1

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 20 Resuming At lower frequency (and lower beam power) than Advanced LIGO, And larger mirror sizes and beam spots Fused Silica has clearly an edge Fused Q=200M Coating noise Depressed by Larger beam spot 1/2 Freq.=>1/4 power 2x Spot=>1/4 p. dens.

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 21 Bench and Kenji’s estimations 12 cm beam spot, 1 10^-4coating phi, 500 million silica Q, 5 Hz seismic wall Coating TN limited In dashed: Kenji extimation for same parameters Gregg Harry

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 22 Cosmic reach LF-LIGO Spot cm coating  silica Q Millions BNS range Mpc Gregg Harry

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 23 Cosmic reach Gregg Harry ParameterLF LIGOADV LIGO Seismic wall6 Hz10 Hz Mass radius215 mm155 mm Beam radius12 cm6 cm Suspension l.1.5 m0.5 m NS inspiral 100 Mpc Adv.LIGO optimized for ns insp. S/N 6 LF-LIGO Opt.for 30+30sm insp. S/N sm inspiral, max reach at S/N 10 Adv.LIGO770 Mpc LF-LIGO1150 Mpc Bench/G. Harry Adv-LIGO standard Config. Fused silica Q 200M t.b.c.

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 24 Signal to noise at 200 MPc Bench/Gregg Harry Inspiral mass Adv LIGO S/N LF LIGO S/N Q silica 50M (conservative) Coating Phi A-LIGO seis. 10 Hz Standard configuration LF-L susp. Noise limited Assuming templates exist throughout the freq. range At higher frequencies templates may not be available for the final merge and inspiral phase

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 25 Signal to noise at 200 MPc Inspiral mass Adv LIGO S/N LF LIGO S/N But much larger S/N are possible if the signal of both interferometers is combined!!

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 26 Kip is running his own independent evaluation of merit for a LF LIGO companion. To be cross checked

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 27 Implications A Virgo-like interferometer to cover the low frequency region at LIGO would be mostly welcome Advantages lower frequency region is better covered Splitting up the frequency range between two different interferometers eases lots of design constraints and allows better performance from each Advanced LIGOs are free to be narrow banded For heavy massers, Adv.LIGO would be “triggered” by the LF optimal filter detection and can start disentangling final inspiral and merge signals

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 28 Is Fused Silica better than Sapphire at low frequency? If we consider same geometrical size mirrors Sapphire is unbeatable! Data from Kenji

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 29 Is Fused Silica better than Sapphire at low frequency? However, as soon as we consider reasonable sizes of sapphire (advanced-LIGO sizes) Fused Silica immediately becomes competitive at LF Adv,LIGO simulation from Erika 6 cm spot Simulation from Kenji Thermo-elastic noise of adv. LIGO mirrors Gauss spot (Erika) Displacement noise

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 30 Is Fused Silica better than Sapphire at low frequency? Even better with larger spot sizes allowable by larger fused silica mirrors and softer suspensions Simulation from Kenji Thermo-elastic noise of adv. LIGO mirrors Gauss spot assumed Power limitations in F-Si Fused silica

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 31 How to mitigate the coating noise problem Can use bigger masses and larger beam spots to counter both coating thermal noise and power limitations (and depress radiation pressure fluctuations) Bonus: larger bottom of the canyon Tighter alignment requirements are possible with lower frequency suspensions and hierarchical controls (Virgo scheme). Note, possible advances in coating loss angle not included

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 32 How to mitigate the coating noise problem 2

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 33 How to mitigate the coating noise problem 3 Mexican hats proposed by Kip Thorne et al. are a solution MH mirror shape: matches phase fronts of MH beam Spherical, Rcurv = 78 km Mexican Hat A Flat-topped beam averages over bumps much more effectively than a Gaussian beam.

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 34 How to mitigate the coating noise problem 4 And J.M. Mackowsky shows that they are relatively easy to make nm 350 mm 80 mm Top view of a Mexican hat Studied area of Mexican hat Theoretical mexican hat Experimental mexican hat Simulation of the corrective coating 27 0

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 35 How much larger? The larger mirrors discussed are feasible today –75 Kg fused silica –430 mm diameter –Have a bid from Heraeus

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 36 Does gravity gradient negate the advantages? With longer mirror suspensions (1-1.5m) the suspension thermal noise is pushed at lower frequency Gravity gradient gets uncovered Can start testing GG subtraction techniques Note: Clearly for the future will need to go underground to fight GG But even aboveground there is so much clear frequency range to allow substantial detection improvements

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 37 Is gravity gradient going to stop us? Minimal Additional Phase space Dashed = LF-LIGO Solid = Adv-LIGO

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 38 Giancarlo Cella Estimation A Virgo day Adv-LIGO estimation based on worse of best 90% Of data stretches, including transients!

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 39 Comments on GG G.C. Cella evaluations give similar results Even if the GG was to be low only in windless nights, it would be worth having the listening capability 50% of the time LF-LIGO would give us the opportunity to test GG subtraction techniques

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 40 Comments on GG Main contribution to GG is the moving soil/air interface. Simple matrix of surface accelerometers can allow up to x10 improvement –(work in Pisa) Then more difficult

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 41

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 42 Is gravity gradient going to stop us? Dashed = LF-LIGO Solid = Adv-LIGO sm inspiral at z=2 We can possibly re- cover all the yellow band

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 43 Can we accommodate a LF Adv-LIGO There is space in the beam pipe just above and forwards of the Adv-LIGO mirrors Advanced LIGO nominal beam positions

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 44 The layout Technical solutions: Advanced-LIGO SAS suspensions for large optics TAMA-SAS suspensions for small optics Fits in LVEA

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 45 L F Int. Characteristics Shorter SAS Longer mirror suspensions –Suspension T.N. freq. cut ~ 1/√L Everything hanging down Auxiliar suspended tables above beam line for pickoff, etc. Stay out of the way of Adv. LIGO

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 46 Do we need a new design? Virgo optical and control design is nearly optimal, –The Virgo interferometer is (or soon will be) fully validated. –Will only needs minor improvements and some simplifications Laser can be the same as LIGO (lower power) Seismic Attenuation and Suspensions –large optics: already developed for advanced LIGO (downselected at the time) –Small optics: use TAMA-SAS design –Both well tested All components off the shelf and tested. Technically we can build it almost immediately

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 47 When and where to implement LF LIGO? Cannot disrupt Adv-LIGO operations Above the Adv.-LIGO beamline => must be installed forward of Adv-LIGO At least all the main mirror vacuum tanks must, but probably all of the interferometer should, be installed at the same time as Adv-LIGO

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 48 Can we afford a LF Adv-LIGO LSC and Advanced LIGO have decided not to pursue the L.F. option to focus on differen possible sources, and dedicated all available sources to it A L.F. interferometer can be done only with external support A LF brother for Adv-LIGO would be a simpler and cheaper interferometer. There may be interest for EGO to make new interferometers in the LIGO facility before making a new generation IF in a new facility. Seismic and suspension design is available using the inexpensive, existing, and well validated, SAS and Virgo concept There is space in the existing facilities, – except the end stations at Hanford and small buildings for mode cleaner.

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 49 Can we afford a LF Adv-LIGO Estimation of project costs: Color code: Prices per unit Price per interferometer Cost source Large Vacuum tanks (2 m diameter ~Virgo design)0.4 Meu Actual Cost Large SAS tower (including control electronics).25 Meu A.C./Bids Mirrors0.3 Meu Bids 7 or 8 systems(vacuum+SAS+mirror) per interferometer7.6 Meu Small vacuum tank and TAMA-SAS suspensions0.2 Meu A. C. + Bids 6 to 8 needed per interferometer1.6 MeU Small optics0.2 Meu Est. Laser0.5 Meu rec. LIGO Gate valves0.1 Meu A.C. 4 to 6 needed0.6 Meu New buildings for end station and mode cleaner, each:0.5 MUS$ Est. F. Asiri 1 needed in LA (MC), 3 in WA (end station and MC)1.0 MUS$ Design 0.3 Meu Est./A.C. Various3.0 Meu Est. Total per interferometer 14.8 Meu Spares (1 set optics)4.0 Meu

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 50 Can we afford a LF Adv-LIGO We are talking of 15 to 20 M US$ per interferometer for components Manpower we can estimate a staff of 20 persons for 5 years for one interferometer, 30 persons for 2 interferometers –Partly from Europe in part from the States. –100,000US$ per person/year, for 1 interferometer 10 MUS$ for 2 interferometers 15 MUS$ Estimated Total for one interferometer 30 MUS$ for two interferometers 50 MUS$

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 51 Can we afford not to introduce a LF brother for Adv-LIGO Clearly the newly observed BH are important and compelling potential GW sources for a LF interferometer Not going LF means forgoing the study of the genesis of the large galactic BH believed to be central to the dynamics of galaxies and forgoing mapping the globular clusters in our neighborhood

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 52 Conclusions Adv-LIGO is designed for bradband over a different set of possible sources and consequently does not cover well the Low Frequency range as well as an IFO exclusively targeted at this range Ignoring the LF range could be dangerous because it contains many juicy, and observed, GW signal generator candidates Redesigning Adv-LIGO to cover it would be awkward and take too long and it would uncover the equally important High Frequency range Adding a simple Low Frequency interferometer is the simplest and best choice!

Pasadena April fool’s 2003 LIGO-G R 53 Implementation strategy Gather a composite study group Since the resources will have to be both external and harmonized to the A-LIGO program the study group would have to be initially independent from LSC. Go around the world with a hat see how many collaborators and additional millions of $/Euro I manage to collect