The engineering team Universities Univ of Technology UoTs or SETAs FET & SETAs FETs SETAs SETAs

Growing professionals school tertiary candidate professional Mathematics & science Facilities and staff Coaching & bursaries Mentoring & training programmes CPD & license to practice Maintaining competence Proof of competence Dept of Education Dept of Education Dept of Labour ECSA and Voluntary Associations Area considered in the Bill

Built Environment Professions Bill B This proposed bill is aimed at mainly effecting change at the professional regulatory level and does not take the bottlenecks in the entire supply pipeline into account The professional development pipeline can takes years to produce a competent and mature professional as is evident and agreed by international bodies

The skills acquisition pyramid Expertise takes time to develop

Competences agreed for mobility A newly registered engineering professional would not automatically be recognised in another country as competent and registerable until he or she meets the following minimum criteria

Competences agreed for mobility o A recognised degree or diploma o Registration in the member country o A minimum of seven years experience o A minimum of two years in which the applicant should have been the responsible person in charge of projects o CPD records maintained for past five years o Adequate knowledge of local conditions o Adequate communication skills and language proficiency This is to reduce the training load and risk on the receiving country. The process has been agreed by most of the English speaking and many Asian countries

The ECSA process oThe ECSA process is mature and proven and based on demonstrated engineering competence oThis is evidenced by low levels of failures to date oIt is recognized internationally

The ECSA process continued oThe introduction of the Identification of Engineering Work (IDoEW) is a further step to protect the public oIts imminent introduction has resulted in substantially increased registrations over the past two years oMany training programmes have recently been initiated to take more graduates through the candidate phase, for example the DBSA Siyenza Manje programme which will result in a further acceleration in the number of engineering professionals registering

Our recommendations o Established (and at present improving) processes should not be disrupted now at a time when industry is under extreme pressure with the delivery of 2010 projects and the Millennium Development Goals o The internationally agreed and proven processes should not be discarded o The need for professional judgement and competencies should be recognised o The CBE should represent and include the entire built environment and associated disciplines including land surveyors, town planners and others

Our belief is that ….. oThe CBE should as its primary mandate play a coordination and administrative role to support the Councils oThe CBE should facilitate integration in the fields of oResearch oCommunication oDevelopment of policy oIT development and integrated administrative systems and reporting oThe Councils should continue with oAccreditation of tertiary education programmes oRegistration and setting criteria for different categories of registration oDisciplinary processes

Built Environment Professions Bill B Before any statutory changes are considered, DPW, the Statutory Structures and the Voluntary Associations should be engaging in a structured process together with the other Government Departments and Structures who are affected by or have an interest in the pipeline to ensure a vibrant and successful South African Built Environment which as a primary resource supports the country

Built Environment Professions Bill B We appeal to the Portfolio Committee on Public Works to assist and facilitate a structured process of engagement to design a robust system to allow South Africa to DEVELOP and GROW the capacity of the crucial built environment professions

Built Environment Professions Bill B Thank you for the opportunity to present on behalf of the 2008 SAICE Executive Board Johan de Koker President Prof Elsabe Kearsley President Elect Ali Naidu President Elect 2009 Tom Mckune Vice President Christopher Campbell Vice President Werner Jerling Vice President Peter Kleynhans Seetella Makhetha Neil Macleod Derek Burger Malcolnm Pautz Allyson Lawless Anthony Murray Sam Amod Mike Deeks & David Botha Executive Director

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