Izumi Okutani JPNIC IP Department NIR Meeting Feb 2004 JPNIC Open Policy Meeting Update

Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center 2 Contents Policy Making in JP Discussions at JP-OPM Discussions on the ML Summary Future considerations Next Meeting

Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center 3 Introduction This presentation introduces discussions and issues in 5th JPNIC Open Policy Meeting and our policy mailing list

Policy Making in JP

Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center 5 How it works with AP-OPM AP-OPM JP-OPM AP-OPM JP-OPM 1.JP consensus 2. proposal 3. AP consensus 4. report 1. AP consensus 3.JP consensus Proposals from the JP CommunityProposals from the AP Community 4. counter-proposal2. report 5. AP re-consensus

Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center 6 The Current Policy Making Process in JP Proposal Consensus Implementation CFPJP-OPM JPNIC Secretariat Policy Advisory Council IP Committee JPNIC Board Approval Review ip-users ML Online Discussions JP CommunityJPNIC

Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center 7 JPNIC Open Policy Meetings Held 2/year,70 attendees/average Attendees –Mostly ISPs, but also academic institutions, IT product vendors, etc Registration – open to anyone, free of charge Session: –Address Policy SIG

JPNIC Open Policy Meeting 5

Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center 9 JPNIC 5 Date: 5 th Dec :30-14:30(lunch 1hr) Place: Pacifico Yokohama, Japan Attendees: 105 Presentations: –Information :5 –Proposal: 1 Consensus –Revision of the JPNIC documents based on APNIC policy changes

Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center 10 Discussions at JP-OPM

Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center 11 JPNIC5 Agenda 1.JPNIC Update 2.APNIC Open Policy Meeting Issues 3.Lame Delegations Report 4.Starting an Agent Service: Portable Assignments for Small Multi-homed Networks 5.IPv6 Policy Planning Team Update 6.RIRs & NIRs Update 7.Revision of the JPNIC Policy Document(*) (*) = Proposal

Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center 12 Major Discussions Topics Privacy of customer assignment records The change of Minimum Allocation size Replacing end user’s admin-c by LIR’s contact

Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center 13 Privacy of Customer Assignment Records Introduced the consensus in AP JPNIC proposed an alternative protection method JPNIC partially protects whois private info already All assignment records are publicly accessible, but necessary care will be taken

Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center 14 Comments on Privacy of Customer Assignment Records(I) Needs of privacy protection –No clear consensus –End-users should bear the equal responsibility? The role of whois database –Restricted to contact information directory?…Or More? Responsibility of LIRs –How far should LIRs take the responsibility? –Restricted to contacts? …Or more?

Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center 15 Request for co-ordination with APNIC to protect information disclosed in APNIC whois Comments on Privacy of Customer Assignment Records(II)

Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center 16 Outcome No clear consensus Continue discussions on the ML

Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center 17 The Change of Minimum Allocation Size Introduced the idea without specifying size nor criteria

Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center 18 Commnets on the Change of Minimum Allocation Size Support the idea of lowering the barrier, but should ensure the CIDR structure Should not encourage end user networks without technical reasons to receive allocations

Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center 19 Comments on the Change of Minimum Allocation Size Alternative suggestions: – lowering the criteria but keeping the allocation size unchanged(/20) –Apply multi-homing criteria instead of criteria based on address size Distinction between portable assignments and allocations must be clarified

Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center 20 Outcome Support the idea, but more discussions necessary about the method

Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center 21 Replacing admin-c with LIR’s Contact Already implemented in operations Documented in the APNIC policy Proposed to describe it in the JPNIC policy

Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center 22 Outcome Consensus reached at the meeting for a consistent policy with APNIC However…. Further discussions took place on the ML Received comments against the proposal from some LIRs outside the ML

Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center 23 Other Discussions Applying AD-ratio in IPv4 allocations –Utilization should be evaluated for each POP instead of applying AD-ratio in IPv4 Lame delegation checks –JPNIC should provide info about lame servers –JPNIC secretariat will consider a specific implementation method

Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center 24 Summary of the meeting 4 hours was too short Queue at microphones! Introducing proposals before the AP consensus Questionnaire showed interests in making proposals Held on the same day as LIR Meeting to encourage LIR participation New

Discussions on ip-users ML

Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center 26 Discussion Topics on the ML Replacing admin-c by LIR’s contact APNIC17 proposals The consensus process in JP

Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center 27 Replacing admin-c by LIR’s Contact End users should bare the equal responsibility Changes the definition of admin-c if restricting its role as contacts The responsibility of LIRs is ambiguous –Merely act as a contact? –Makes decision about cutting connections/other actions for abuse complaints? –The implications on legal responsibilities?

Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center 28 Outcome JPNIC suspended the implementation JPNIC will re-define admin-c and make a proposal at the next JP-OPM –Clearly describe that admin-c merely serves as a contact

Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center 29 APNIC17 proposals Translated policy proposals on the SIG ML –Lowering minimum allocation size & criteria –IPv6 allocations to closed networks –IPv6 address for IPv4 networks –Recovery of unused historical resources No comments so far

Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center 30 Definition of the consensus process No defined process for the meeting consensus  ML discussions –e.g) discussions on replacing admin-c –No timeframe defined for comments, implementation Co-ordination with LIRs –Some LIRs feel: JPNIC should discuss policies with LIRs seperately More comfortable to comment individually, not on the ML

Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center 31 Definition of the consensus process The secretariat holds a working group meeting in March to discuss this issue

Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center 32 Summary The first meeting to introduce AP proposals in advance Many non-JPNIC participants spoke out at the meeting Fundamental issues were raised –the policy development process –co-ordination with LIR meetings

Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center 33 Future Considerations Define Policy Development Process –Distinction between JP-OPM &LIR Meetings Encourage active participation –More proposals from the community –Encourage more LIR participation –Activate the ML Introduce AP proposals at JP-OPM in advance

Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center 34 Future model with AP-OPM AP-OPM JP-OPM AP-OPM JP-OPM 1.JP consensus 2. proposal 3. AP consensus 4. report 1. proposal 3.JP consensus Proposals from the JP CommunityProposals from the AP Community 2. report 4.feedback 5.AP consensus

Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center 35 Next JP-OPM Summer 2004 –Specific date to be fixed around April APNIC and NIR staff are welcome to attend our meeting!

Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center 36 Thank You!