Global Design Effort - CFS 03-05-08 TILC08 Working Group 1 - March 5, 2008 1 CFS Cost Reductions Conventional Facilities and Siting Group A. Enomoto, V.

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Global Design Effort - CFS TILC08 Working Group 1 - March 5, CFS Cost Reductions Conventional Facilities and Siting Group A. Enomoto, V. Kuchler, J. Osborne

Global Design Effort - CFS TILC08 Working Group 1 - March 5, Session One - Processed Water Current RDR Design Current RDR Design – Three Loop System for Process Water  Shaft (Surface to Tunnel Depth}  Tunnel Main Distribution  Skid Loop  20 o F DT – Two Loop System for Chilled Water  Shaft (Surface to Tunnel Depth)  Tunnel Main Distribution Project X Design Utilizes a Similar System with the Exception of the Shaft Loop Due to Near Surface Configuration Project X Design Utilizes a Similar System with the Exception of the Shaft Loop Due to Near Surface Configuration

Global Design Effort - CFS TILC08 Working Group 1 - March 5,

Global Design Effort - CFS TILC08 Working Group 1 - March 5,

Global Design Effort - CFS TILC08 Working Group 1 - March 5, First Analysis - Eliminate Chilled Water Still a Three Loop Process Water System Still a Three Loop Process Water System Requires LCW Skid to Go From 20 o DT to 30 o DT Requires LCW Skid to Go From 20 o DT to 30 o DT Fan Coil Units for Service Tunnel Temperature Control Affected: Fan Coil Units for Service Tunnel Temperature Control Affected: – Units Get Physically Larger – Units are Less Efficient – Units Operate at a Lower DT – Units Require More Water – Tunnel Temperature is 104 o F – > 104 o F Requires Electrical Equipment De-rating – > 86 o F Labor Restriction Becomes an Issue Cost Impact - Reductions Cost Impact - Reductions – One Distribution System is Eliminated (Chilled Water, 2 Pipes at 8” dia) – Required Surface Chiller Capacity Reduced Cost Impact - Neutral Cost Impact - Neutral – No Major Pumping Impact – No Major Electrical Impact Cost Impact - Additions Cost Impact - Additions – Process Water Pipe Size Increases from 12” dia to 18” dia – Control Racks Still Require Local Chillers for Cooling – Fan Coil Units get Larger

Global Design Effort - CFS TILC08 Working Group 1 - March 5,

Global Design Effort - CFS TILC08 Working Group 1 - March 5, Second Analysis - Eliminate Process Water Still a Three Loop Chilled Water System Still a Three Loop Chilled Water System Requires LCW Skid to Go From 20 o DT to 30 o DT Requires LCW Skid to Go From 20 o DT to 30 o DT Fan Coil Units for Service Tunnel Temperature Control Remain Unchanged: Fan Coil Units for Service Tunnel Temperature Control Remain Unchanged: – Tunnel Temperature is 86 o F – No Requirement Electrical Equipment De-rating or Labor Restrictions Cost Impact - Reductions Cost Impact - Reductions – One Distribution System is Eliminated (Process Water, 2 Pipes at 12” dia) – Pumping Configuration Reduced Cost Impact - Neutral Cost Impact - Neutral – Control Rack Cooling Unchanged – Fan Coil Units Unchanged Cost Impact - Additions Cost Impact - Additions – Chilled Water Pipe Size Increases from 8” dia to 10” dia – Required Surface Chiller Capacity Increased

Global Design Effort - CFS TILC08 Working Group 1 - March 5,

Global Design Effort - CFS TILC08 Working Group 1 - March 5, Session Two - Underground Volume Currently Not Optimized for Equipment Size or Layout Currently Not Optimized for Equipment Size or Layout Primary Space Requirements Determined By: Primary Space Requirements Determined By: – Cryogenic Equipment – Process Water Equipment – HVAC Equipment – Installation and Material Handling Requirements Opportunities for Cost Reduction: Opportunities for Cost Reduction: – Revised Process Cooling Design May Result in a Reduction of Equipment Space Required – Revised HVAC Design May Result in a Reduction of Equipment Space Required – Overall Optimization of Equipment layout is Essential – Adjustment of Shaft Usage and Size will Affect Cavern Space Requirements

Global Design Effort - CFS TILC08 Working Group 1 - March 5, Session Three - Shallow Site Studies Twin Tunnel Deep Solution is the RDR Base Twin Tunnel Deep Solution is the RDR Base Cut and Cover Tunnel with Continuous Surface Gallery Cut and Cover Tunnel with Continuous Surface Gallery (Project X) Near Surface Tunnel with Surface Gallery Configuration (Dubna) Near Surface Tunnel with Surface Gallery Configuration (Dubna) Single Tunnel with Enclosed Exit Corridor (~7.5m dia) Single Tunnel with Enclosed Exit Corridor (~7.5m dia) Single Tunnel with Fire Protected Alcoves Single Tunnel with Fire Protected Alcoves Single Tunnel Only (LHC and XFEL) Single Tunnel Only (LHC and XFEL) Twin Tunnel with Only One Equipment Access per Linac and Only Personnel Access Shafts at 5 km Intervals Twin Tunnel with Only One Equipment Access per Linac and Only Personnel Access Shafts at 5 km Intervals Single Tunnel with Only One Equipment Access per Linac and Only Personnel Access Shafts at 5 km Intervals Single Tunnel with Only One Equipment Access per Linac and Only Personnel Access Shafts at 5 km Intervals Adjustments to Shaft Diameters with Respect to Material Handling Adjustments to Shaft Diameters with Respect to Material Handling Various Alternatives Noted May Preclude Construction in Certain Siting Locations Various Alternatives Noted May Preclude Construction in Certain Siting Locations

Global Design Effort - CFS TILC08 Working Group 1 - March 5, reduce diameter of 14m shafts down to 9m Via lowering cryo = 14m diameter shafts

Global Design Effort - CFS TILC08 Working Group 1 - March 5, m diameter shafts

Global Design Effort - CFS TILC08 Working Group 1 - March 5, m diameter shafts

Global Design Effort - CFS TILC08 Working Group 1 - March 5, Saving from civil engineering to reduce diameter for all six shafts would be in the region of 2Million Euros per shaft. This is only valid for the CERN deep tunnel site. Saving from civil engineering to reduce diameter for all six shafts would be in the region of 2Million Euros per shaft. This is only valid for the CERN deep tunnel site. This is not the case for Asia where tunnel access is via inclined tunnels rather than shafts. This is not the case for Asia where tunnel access is via inclined tunnels rather than shafts. Extra costs due to lowering cryo magnets inclined needs to be assessed Extra costs due to lowering cryo magnets inclined needs to be assessed Cost Study : reduce diameter of 14m shafts down to 9m