Job 15-16. Job 15 Eliphaz Job 15:1-3 Round 2 begins Eliphaz is a spiritualist Experience determines truth Should be the other way around.

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Job 15-16

Job 15 Eliphaz Job 15:1-3 Round 2 begins Eliphaz is a spiritualist Experience determines truth Should be the other way around

Job 15 Eliphaz Job 15:1-3 Should have truth 1 st of all Then filter experience thru truth Many experiences not in line w God's Word

Job 15 Eliphaz Job 15:1-3 My, they are slugging it out w words in this intellectual foray Accuses Job of empty talk Again not helping Job Trying to break down Job

Job 15 Eliphaz Job 15:1-3 Thinks Job needs to confess sin No way to treat someone in trouble as Job is

Job 15 Eliphaz Job 15:4-6 Says Job is his own accuser Job 15:7 You speak as if you know something, Job

Job 15 Eliphaz Job 15:8-9 Again arguing from wrong premise Casts Job in very bad light Does not show Job his need No comfort for Job here

Job 15 Eliphaz Job 15:10 Defends himself & other 2 friends Advantage of maturity over him Wisdom on their side, not w Job

Job 15 Eliphaz Job 15:11-14 Again pressing for confession Just confess your sin, Job Bring it out into the open

Job 15 Eliphaz Job 15:15 What he says about heavens is true Christ died not only for mankind But also for all creation There'll be new heaven, new earth Redemption of all creation

Job 15 Eliphaz Job 15:15 But for now, heavens are not clean This is true

Job 15 Eliphaz Job 15:16 This is also true As heavens are not clean Much more so man is not clean Man needs redemption much more But not helpful to Job in suffering

Job 15 Eliphaz Job 15:17-35 Again suggestion of sin Job must be hiding something

Job 15 Eliphaz “We must admit, however, that these men did not have a contemporary false psychology which says that there is really nothing wrong with man, that man has made a few mistakes,

Job 15 Eliphaz “but it really is nothing that couldn't be cured by rubbing a little 'salve' on it. These men had a truer concept than our modern men who teach that man is a superior creature because he is the product of evolution, and so is not responsible to a Creator.”

Job 15 Eliphaz Instead of being a comforter He is a debater Not adding anything new Same old same old all over again Nothing new since his 1 st speech

Job 16 Job Responds again to Eliphaz This has turned into a debate It wasn't supposed to be debate Friends were supposed to comfort Instead, they beat Job down But they are not winning debate

Job 16 Job Debate seems to be a standoff Eventually God will break in This is what Job needs, wants Eliphaz rendered nothing helpful

Job 16 Job Job 16:1-2 Job hasn't heard anything new Calls his friends miserable And that they had become!

Job 16 Job Job 16:3 Says friends ought to be ashamed Words are vain, empty Not meeting the need

Job 16 Job Job 16:3 A great many sermons like that Some not even Bible centered Cannot be used by Holy Spirit No HS → message is useless Even some singing is like that

Job 16 Job Job 16:3 Fault may lie with preacher Or may lie with congregation

Job 16 Job Job 16:4 Put the shoe on the other foot You want me condemning you? Paul speaks of this: Gal 6:1

Job 16 Job Galatians 6:1 Brothers, if someone is caught in a sin, you who are spiritual should restore him gently. But watch yourself, or you also may be tempted.

Job 16 Job Job 16:4 Don't debate someone in need Don't go preach to him/her Restore him in spirit of meekness Lord washed feet of His own He still does that today

Job 16 Job 1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.

Job 16 Job Job 16:4 “He still washes feet; that is, He still cleanses His own. But He also set us an example. If you are going to wash someone's feet, you can't put yourself above him, look down upon him, point your finger,

Job 16 Job Job 16:4 “and preach at him. You will need to kneel down and take the place of a servant to wash feet. That is quite a bit different from arguing with the person.”

Job 16 Job Job 16:4 “It's too bad that these friends didn't come to Job in that way, but they didn't. They came preaching at Him. Realizing that, he tells them that if he were in their position, he could do the same thing.”

Job References J. Vernon McGee Commentary