God’s Church and Our Church “The wealthiest Institution in the Country” “The lost millions” “It will always be here” Is the Church a long way away from the ideals of John and Jesus?

The Church of England

The Diocese of Liverpool

So where is the wealth? National Picture – 2 / 3 income comes from current members – 4 / 5 expenditure is in parishes & dioceses Diocese (Liverpool) – 2 / 3 income comes from parishes – 3 / 4 expenditure pays for the clergy Clergy –Archbishop of Canterbury is paid less than a secondary school head teacher –Bishop of Liverpool receives less than a primary school deputy head National Picture – 2 / 3 income comes from current members – 4 / 5 expenditure is in parishes & dioceses Diocese (Liverpool) – 2 / 3 income comes from parishes – 3 / 4 expenditure pays for the clergy Clergy –Archbishop of Canterbury is paid less than a secondary school head teacher –Bishop of Liverpool receives less than a primary school deputy head

Parish Clergy Current stipend is £18k / year All parish clergy are paid roughly the same But we have to pay –Most office equipment, furniture, heating, lighting, cleaning, insurance –Robes –Entertainment –Upkeep of the church’s house & garden Typical income counted for tax £11k Where to live when retired? Current stipend is £18k / year All parish clergy are paid roughly the same But we have to pay –Most office equipment, furniture, heating, lighting, cleaning, insurance –Robes –Entertainment –Upkeep of the church’s house & garden Typical income counted for tax £11k Where to live when retired?

The church’s wealth So where is it? –Central coffers? –Church House in Liverpool? –Bishops & Archbishops? –Clergy? Whoever owns our church? So where is it? –Central coffers? –Church House in Liverpool? –Bishops & Archbishops? –Clergy? Whoever owns our church?     

Our Budget Income –£ ? Sunday Giving –£ ? Other giving –£ ? Fees –£ ? Fundraising etc. –£? Income –£ ? Sunday Giving –£ ? Other giving –£ ? Fees –£ ? Fundraising etc. –£? Expenditure –£ ? Clergy expenses + housing –£ ? Church Utilities –£ ? Maintenance etc. –£ ? Sunday Services –£? Admin Costs –£? Diocese Share –£?

God’s Church and Our Church How can we live the Gospel?