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Submission doc.: IEEE r PAR Review SC November 2015 Date: November 2015 Jon Rosdahl, CSR-QualcommSlide 1 Authors:

Submission doc.: IEEE r2 Abstract-Snapshot Review of Proposed 802 PAR documents -- Nov 8-13, Dallas, TX, USA 1.802d - Amendment: URN Namespace, PAR and CSDPARCSD CQ- Standard: Multicast and Local Address Assignment, PAR and CSDPARCSD ca - Amendment, 25 Gb/s and 100 Gb/s Passive Optical Networks, PAR and CSDPARCSD cb - Amendment, 2.5 Gb/s and 5 Gb/s Operation over Backplane and Copper Cables, PAR and CSDPARCSD d - 100Gbps wireless switched point-to-point physical layer, PAR Modification and 5CPAR Modification5C t Standard: Low-Rate Wireless Personal Area Networks (LR-WPANs) Amendment for a High(er) Rate Physical (PHY) Layer, PAR and CSDPARCSD u Amendment, Low-Rate Wireless Personal Area Networks (LR- WPANs) Amendment for use of the Indian MHz band. PAR and CSDPARCSD s - Amendment, Fixed and Mobile Wireless Access in Channel Sizes up to 1.25 MHz, PAR and CSDPAR and CSD Meeting times: Monday PM2, Tuesday AM2, Thursday AM2 November 2015 Jon Rosdahl, CSR-QualcommSlide 2

Submission doc.: IEEE r2 PAR Review SC – November 2015 Chair: Jon Rosdahl Monday Agenda: 1.Welcome 2..Nominations for Vice Chair/Secretary 3.Determine order of review 4.Review PARs/CSD posted for review this week. 5.Recess Tuesday Agenda: 1.Determine Vice Chair/Secretary for this week and beyond 2.Complete review of PARs/CSD and post comments to 802 WGs 3.Recess Thursday Agenda: 1.Review Response to Comments 2.Prepare Report for WG closing plenary 3.Adjourn November 2015 Jon Rosdahl, CSR-QualcommSlide 3 Draft Agenda:

Submission doc.: IEEE r2 PAR Review Comments November 2015 Jon Rosdahl, CSR-QualcommSlide 4

Submission doc.: IEEE r d - 100Gbps wireless switched point-to-point physical layer, PAR Modification and 5CPAR Modification5C 2.1, 5.2a, 5.2b and 5.5: Use of “Mbps” or “ Gbps” should be “Mb/s” and “Gb/s” 5.2a and 5.2b seem to be orders of magnitude different in the expected speeds and bands covered. Should the Scope be amended by this amendment to include the extra bands and speeds? An Amendment is a good time to adjust the scope of the base standard. 5.5 – missing comma “In data centers wireless links ----” 5.5 – extra comma “…with high probability, is ----” 8.1 – 5.2b – delete “the” in “intended the frequency bands” 8.1 – missing comma in “kiosk-downloading the link” November 2015 Jon Rosdahl, CSR-QualcommSlide 5

Submission doc.: IEEE r t Standard: Low-Rate Wireless Personal Area Networks (LR- WPANs) Amendment for a High(er) Rate Physical (PHY) Layer, PAR and CSDPAR CSD 2.1 Need to include range for “High(er)” ( See NesCom Conventions: “6. Quantification of the Ranges of Numeric Values For PARs for new projects, standards developers who use general terms to represent ranges (e.g. high, medium, low) within the title, scope, or purpose, shall numerically define such ranges where they first appear (title, scope, or purpose, as applicable). “) 5.2a – change “devices operating various license-free” to “devices operating in various license-free” 5.2a – What is the battery consumption requirements (car battery or coin cell for example)? 5.2.b Change “Mbps” to “Mb/s” November 2015 Jon Rosdahl, CSR-QualcommSlide 6

Submission doc.: IEEE r2 15.4t CSD Title page: should it include the name of the amendment? change “Definitions were already and part of this standard “ to “Definitions were already a part of this standard. November 2015 Jon Rosdahl, CSR-QualcommSlide 7

Submission doc.: IEEE r u Amendment, Low-Rate Wireless Personal Area Networks (LR- WPANs) Amendment for use of the Indian MHz band. PAR and CSDPAR CSD 2.1 Change “the Indian MHz band” to “the MHz band in India.” 5.5 – Suggest use “W” for “watts” 5.5 – Change: “released a draft an Internet of Things Policy” to “released a draft Internet of Things Policy” November 2015 Jon Rosdahl, CSR-QualcommSlide 8

Submission doc.: IEEE r2 15.4u CSD Title page: should it include the name of the amendment? It would help the reader when looking at CSD to be self-defined change “Definitions were already and part of this standard “ to “Definitions were already a part of this standard” a) change “This project can be implement with “ to “This project can be implemented with “ a) Add comma prior to “which” November 2015 Jon Rosdahl, CSR-QualcommSlide 9

Submission doc.: IEEE r s - Amendment, Fixed and Mobile Wireless Access in Channel Sizes up to 1.25 MHz, PAR and CSDPAR and CSD In 2014, was in the process of closing down open projects. What evidence do we have for the support of a new project? 5.1 – We do not believe that there are 15 interested parties when has only 6 members. There may not be enough interest to support this new project. Are you expecting a lot of cross interest from the Micro-wave society? 7.1 – 3GPP develops NB-IOT (narrow band LTE for Internet of Things) which is similar in scope to this project scope – from 5.2b: “This system profile will specify operation in exclusively-licensed spectrum with channel sizes up to 1.25 MHz, including 1 MHz explicitly”. How is this project different from the 3GPP case? November 2015 Jon Rosdahl, CSR-QualcommSlide 10

Submission doc.: IEEE r s CSD a) How does this project justify the claimed market share of the cited studies, given that this appears to be one of many technologies in this competitive market place? b) given that there are only 6 members of , that does not appear to match the list of “Multiple Vendors and numerous users” categories, what evidence of interests is there from participants in each category? This response could be enhanced by including and building on the statement from b) “At least five utilities in the US have either deployed or are testing a proprietary system based on a variation of IEEE technology.” – Concern that the statements are somewhat vague. Is there evidence that could be identified for the cited systems? How much of a “variation” in the system is cited? Could supporting documents be cited from document repository? November 2015 Jon Rosdahl, CSR-QualcommSlide 11

Submission doc.: IEEE r2 802d - Amendment: URN Namespace, PAR and CSDPARCSD 1.1 Correct Project number – P802d 2.1 Expand first use of Abbreviation – Uniform Resource Names (URN) 5.2.b Change “bridges and end stations” to “802 Network elements”. This is to avoid the need to list all types of devices, e.g. Access Points (AP), switches etc. 8.1 #5.5 delete second sentence, ”YANG” does not appear in the title. 8.1 #7.3A delete “with communication with JTC1 through existing channels”, or remove the entire comment as 7.3 does not appear on the PDF of the PAR. November 2015 Jon Rosdahl, CSR-QualcommSlide 12

Submission doc.: IEEE r2 802d CSD – This project may be apply to more than 802.1Q, change “802.1Q to “802”. November 2015 Jon Rosdahl, CSR-QualcommSlide 13

Submission doc.: IEEE r CQ- Standard: Multicast and Local Address Assignment, PAR and CSDPARCSD 2.1 change “Addresses” to “Address” 5.6 change last sentence to read: “This includes software developers, networking equipment vendors IC developers, bridge and NIC vendors, and users. CSD: Slide 9: spell out “CIDs” – “Company Identifier (CID)” CSD: Slide 9: identify properly where the address is coming from.. Change “RAC” to “IEEE-SA Registration Authority”. November 2015 Jon Rosdahl, CSR-QualcommSlide 14

Submission doc.: IEEE r ca - Amendment, 25 Gb/s and 100 Gb/s Passive Optical Networks, PAR and CSDPARCSD No comment or issues identified. November 2015 Jon Rosdahl, CSR-QualcommSlide 15

Submission doc.: IEEE r cb - Amendment, 2.5 Gb/s and 5 Gb/s Operation over Backplane and Copper Cables, PAR and CSDPARCSD No comment or issues identified. CSD Slide 5: Well Done -- November 2015 Jon Rosdahl, CSR-QualcommSlide 16

Submission doc.: IEEE r2 Motion to accept feedback Move to accept the feedback in 11-15/1212r2 (slides 5-16) as the feedback on the proposed PARs for the November 2015 Plenary. Moved: Andrew Myles 2 nd : Dorothy Stanley Results: motion passes November 2015 Jon Rosdahl, CSR-QualcommSlide 17

Submission doc.: IEEE r2 Responses From 802 WGs November 2015 Jon Rosdahl, CSR-QualcommSlide 18

Submission doc.: IEEE r2 References IEEE 802 PARs Under consideration Webpage: November 2015 Jon Rosdahl, CSR-QualcommSlide 19