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doc.: IEEE /494r0 Submission July 2001 Michael Fischer, Intersil (TGe Editor)Slide 1 Provisional Tge Ballot Comment Resolutions from the May, 2001 Meeting Michael Fischer, TGe Editor Intersil Corporation

doc.: IEEE /494r0 Submission July 2001 Michael Fischer, Intersil (TGe Editor)Slide 2 01/263r0, #2 -- Clause Comment: QoS facility is required not optional, should include reference to traffic specification as well as priority Suggested resolution: To remove the word “optional” in references to QoS functions in clauses 6 through 11 and to add a paragraph to sub-clause which states what functions parts of the QoS facility are necessary for conformance to802.11e. Accepted in Orlando without dissent

doc.: IEEE /494r0 Submission July 2001 Michael Fischer, Intersil (TGe Editor)Slide 3 01/263r0, #4 -- Clause Comment: Having a variable MSDU MTU depending on features seems to leak unnecessary MAC-layer knowledge into layers above the MAC Proposal: Define a constant MSDU MTU [=2304] –This results in a maximum MPDU size may vary –All radio PHYs can handle MPDUs of at least 4095 octets Vote in Orlando: –Non-voters: 0-1-8

doc.: IEEE /494r0 Submission July 2001 Michael Fischer, Intersil (TGe Editor)Slide 4 01/263r0, #14 -- Clause Comment: There is an “information gap” between the receiving station that knows it wants to receive strictly-ordered MSDUs or would like to save power and the transmitting station that specifies this parameter. Proposed Resolution: remove all mention of strictly ordered service class, including all the errors about trying to use it, in the updated standard. –This solved a political problem and is no longer needed –Not in PICS, so deletion does not cause non-conformance Orlando vote: –Non voters:

doc.: IEEE /494r0 Submission July 2001 Michael Fischer, Intersil (TGe Editor)Slide 5 01/263r0, #11 -- Clause and 01/264r2, #10 -- Clause 7 Clause –Comment: Include a response for “uncorrectable error” and possibly “correctable error” –Proposed resolution: Add a case for “or success with correction” after “success” –Orlando vote: Non-voters: Clause 7 –Comment: There should be mention of correctable errors –Proposed resolution: Change "received without errors" to "received without errors or with corrected errors" –Orlando vote: Non-voters: 6-0-8

doc.: IEEE /494r0 Submission July 2001 Michael Fischer, Intersil (TGe Editor)Slide 6 01/264r2, # Clause (Table 4) Comment: Why use the 4-address format with duplication of address fields in ESTA-ESTA case? Proposed Resolution: –Remove the ESTA-ESTA line at the bottom of table 4 and use ToDS=FromDS=0 format in the top line of table 4 –Change the ToDS=FromDS=0 case in clause 5.5 so that these are class 1 frames only in IBSS and are class 3 frames in QBSS –Editor to make corresponding changes to Table 2 Orlando vote: –Nonvoters: 9-0-5

doc.: IEEE /494r0 Submission July 2001 Michael Fischer, Intersil (TGe Editor)Slide 7 01/264r2, #29 -- Clause Comment: My current understand is that frames may also be directed from STA to STA and from ESTA to ESTA. How is this included in these definitions? Resolved, for the ESTA-ESTA case, by the resolution of comment #281 of 264r2 Proposed resolution for the STA-STA case: State that STA-STA communication in a QBSS is not addressed by this standard Orlando vote: –Non-voters: 7-0-6

doc.: IEEE /494r0 Submission July 2001 Michael Fischer, Intersil (TGe Editor)Slide 8 01/264r2, #26 -- Clause and 7.2.x Comment: There are several inconsistencies where the frame formats show "TCID" for the field whose contents are defined under "QoS Control Field" in Proposed resolution: Update all frame formats which contain a "TCID" field to read "QoS Control" field. Accepted in Orlando without dissent

doc.: IEEE /494r0 Submission July 2001 Michael Fischer, Intersil (TGe Editor)Slide 9 01/264r2, #29 -- Clause Comment: Clarification is needed in Proposed resolution: At the end of the existing paragraph add: “The Frame Control field shall always be taken as the 1st and 2nd octets of any received frame.” Accepted in Orlando without dissent

doc.: IEEE /494r0 Submission July 2001 Michael Fischer, Intersil (TGe Editor)Slide 10 01/264r2, #73 -- Clause Comment: The two red paragraphs appear to contradict themselves. It is unclear on reading them both if the “more data” field is set in a QoS data type if there are frames of other traffic classes buffered. Proposed resolution: Delete the last paragraph at the bottom of page 18 and add a note to clarify that the QoS control field of the QoS data frame indicates the presence of MSDUs belonging to the same TC. Orlando vote: –Nonvoters:

doc.: IEEE /494r0 Submission July 2001 Michael Fischer, Intersil (TGe Editor)Slide 11 01/264r2, # Clause Comment: It is unclear why the behavior described in the last sentence: “The Non-final field is ignored in received MPDUs or MMPDUs with the More Fragments frame control field set to 1” should exist. This confuses fragmentation and medium access. Proposed resolution: In the case in which the Non- final field is set to 0 and the More Fragments field is set to 1 is indication that this is the last MPDU to be sent during the current TXOP, with the remaining fragments to be sent in a subsequent TXOP. Orlando vote: –Nonvoters:

doc.: IEEE /494r0 Submission July 2001 Michael Fischer, Intersil (TGe Editor)Slide 12 01/264r2, # Clause Comment: It is not clear why the following behavior exists: “The TXOP limit field is also ignored in received MPDUs or MMPDUs with the More Fragments frame control field set to 1.” Proposed resolution: Change "More Fragments" field to the "Non-Final" field. Add an informative note about why this provision exists. –This is consistent with resolution of comment 142, 01/264r2 Orlando vote: –Non-voters: 7-0-6

doc.: IEEE /494r0 Submission July 2001 Michael Fischer, Intersil (TGe Editor)Slide 13 01/264r2, #192, part 2 -- Clause and 01/264r2, #212, part 2 -- Clause Comment: The duration of RTS ( ) and CTS ( ) should depend on the frame exchange that it is part of as defined in 9. Proposed resolution: –For : On page 23 of D1.0, in line 13 state that these duration rules apply to RTS frames sent under DCF rules. In line 15 add statement that for RTS frames sent under other CF rules the duration is calculated as specified in the relevant part of clause 9. –For : On page 23 of D1.0, in line 33 state that these duration rules apply to CTS frames sent in response to RTS frames. In line 35 add statement that for CTS frames sent in other cases the duration is calculated as specified in the relevant part of clause 9. Orlando vote: –Non-voters:

doc.: IEEE /494r0 Submission July 2001 Michael Fischer, Intersil (TGe Editor)Slide 14 01/264r2, # Clause Comment: The duration of ACK should depend on frame exchange that it is part of as defined in 9. Proposed resolution: On page 24 of D1.0, in line 6 state that these duration rules apply to RTS frames sent under EDCF rules. In line 10 add statement that for RTS frames sent under other CF rules the duration is calculated as specified in the relevant part of clause 9. Accepted in Orlando without dissent

doc.: IEEE /494r0 Submission July 2001 Michael Fischer, Intersil (TGe Editor)Slide 15 01/264r2, # Clause Comment: “The TA is the address of the STA transmitting the frame.” No TA is shown in the RR frame figure. Proposed resolution: Remove the text referring to the TA field, which has been removed from the diagram. Accepted in Orlando without dissent.

doc.: IEEE /494r0 Submission July 2001 Michael Fischer, Intersil (TGe Editor)Slide 16 01/264r2, # Clause Comment: This section (and others) reference a clause 9 section (BSS overlap mitigation) that does not exist. This section will need to contain normative text describing mandatory behavior of ESTAs and EAPs that supports BSS overlap mitigation. Proposed resolution: To remove all references to BSS overlap mitigation from the QoS draft document (while allowing a complete mechanism to be inserted in the future if proposed) Orlando vote: –Non-voters: 5-0-4

doc.: IEEE /494r0 Submission July 2001 Michael Fischer, Intersil (TGe Editor)Slide 17 01/264r2, # Clause Comment: Mention of HC handover process, not otherwise specified, should be deleted. Proposed resolution: In Delete reason code 17 - "HC handover is in progress" Accepted in Orlando without dissent.

doc.: IEEE /494r0 Submission July 2001 Michael Fischer, Intersil (TGe Editor)Slide 18 01/264r2, # Clause Comment: The second paragraph implies broadcast traffic is sent after beacons or TBTTs, when it is sent only after DTIM TBTTs according to existing power- saving rules. Proposed Resolution: Modify references in the paragraph to TBTT to refer instead to the TBTTs of Beacons containing DTIMs. Orlando vote: –Non-voters:

doc.: IEEE /494r0 Submission July 2001 Michael Fischer, Intersil (TGe Editor)Slide 19 01/264r2, # Clause Comment: I’m not sure I believe the support implied here for ESTA to PS ESTA will work. There’s a bit of a “chicken and egg” problem exchanging the directed probe request/response with the power-saving station. Proposed resolution: State that power save in conjunction with direct ESTA-ESTA communication is not supported by this specification. Orlando vote: –Non-voters:

doc.: IEEE /494r0 Submission July 2001 Michael Fischer, Intersil (TGe Editor)Slide 20 01/264r2, # Clause 7.5 Comment: “error correction is expected to take longer than a SIFS” – while this may be true today it will not remain so for long. Should we build in implementation dependencies of this type into the spec? Proposed resolution: Modify the first bullet item in 7.5 to require a non-immediate ACK policy only if the recipient is not capable of returning an immediate ACK. The use of this is negotiated as part of the Tspec signaling as the ACK policy is in the Tspec. Orlando vote: –Non-voters:

doc.: IEEE /494r0 Submission July 2001 Michael Fischer, Intersil (TGe Editor)Slide 21 01/264r2, # Clause 7.5 Comment: It is not clear whether this comment attempts to restrict the use of FEC only to these cases. It is my opinion that FEC can usefully be used under other circumstances and not as part of a parameterized QoS TS. Proposed resolution: The ability to receive (and, by implication to transmit) FEC frames be indicated in capability information bit 9 (and update the reference to bit 11 in 7.5). Clarify that FEC is a separate option, and that the use of FEC is negotiated when desired. Orlando vote: –Non-voters:

doc.: IEEE /494r0 Submission July 2001 Michael Fischer, Intersil (TGe Editor)Slide 22 01/264r2, # Clause Comment: “Even if the EAP… functions are transferred to an alternate station”. –There is inadequate support for doing this in the spec. Would need the APs to signal some kind of AP capability and priority information in a standardized form so that the “most important” potential AP acted in this role. Proposed resolution: Remove the concept of EAP mobility from the document. Orlando vote: –Non-voters:

doc.: IEEE /494r0 Submission July 2001 Michael Fischer, Intersil (TGe Editor)Slide r0, #3 -- Clause priority values are not adequate. Expand the parameter priority values to 16. –Suggestion to go to 4 bits, 16 values, 8 for priority and 8 for parameterized. We need to disambiguate this. Proposed resolution – allow 16 values for the priority parameter. Values 0-7 have their traditional meaning, and values 8-15 are for parameterized traffic. –Figure 14.5, the top two rows change by defining bit 15. –The TCID format changes to match in Clause