Doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1468r2 Submission November 2015 Response to 16/0025r0 Date: 2016-01-20 Authors: Knut Odman, BroadcomSlide 1.

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doc.: IEEE /1468r2 Submission November 2015 Response to 16/0025r0 Date: Authors: Knut Odman, BroadcomSlide 1

doc.: IEEE /1468r2 Submission November 2015 Abstract Stepping through the hierarchy of documents, we will find that superior documents, except one line in LMSC, leave details to the WG We can disconnect voting rights from attendance and ballot response. Both can exist but one does not have to depend on the other. Knut Odman, BroadcomSlide 2

doc.: IEEE /1468r2 Submission November 2015 Knut Odman, BroadcomSlide 3 WG Operations Manual 11-13/0001r4, clause 1 No mention of attendance requirement for voting rights SA AudCom Baseline Operating Procedures for Individual Working Groups has some guidelines, see next page.

doc.: IEEE /1468r2 Submission November 2015 Knut Odman, BroadcomSlide 4 SA AudCom Baseline Operating Procedures for WG, clause …membership shall be granted after the participant attends two consecutive meetings of an existing Working Group, and also requests membership status. Attendance credit is granted to those who attend at least 50% of a meeting’s duration. Attendance at a meeting via teleconferencing and/or electronic means, e.g., Internet conferencing, shall count towards the attendance requirements. If a Working Group member misses two consecutive meetings, or two consecutive Working Group letter ballots, his or her voting privilege may be revoked. No requirement to wait for a third meeting. Note that SA uses the word “meeting” in the meaning of “session” By meeting means the whole week. No requirement of being in a room for a certain amount of time “May” means that the WG is allowed to introduce this rule if we let them. There is no requirement!

doc.: IEEE /1468r2 Submission November 2015 Knut Odman, BroadcomSlide 5 LMSC documents - I No requirement

doc.: IEEE /1468r2 Submission November 2015 Knut Odman, BroadcomSlide 6 LMSC documents - II Meeting or Session? See SA Audcom Baseline OP This document swap terms as defined by SA. Terms as used here are consistent with RROR. Note that this is to gain and not to maintain voting rights. Needs challenge!

doc.: IEEE /1468r2 Submission November 2015 Knut Odman, BroadcomSlide 7 LMSC documents - III “May lose” = optional for not returning ballots. No provision for losing voting rights based on attendance! No requirement beyond “participating”

doc.: IEEE /1468r2 Submission November 2015 Knut Odman, BroadcomSlide 8 WG Operations Manual 11-13/0001r4, clause These rules are made up inside this WG, so we can modify them at will.

doc.: IEEE /1468r2 Submission November 2015 Knut Odman, BroadcomSlide 9 WG Operations Manual 11-13/0001r4, clause 7.1 Naming confusion meeting/session aside, not even WG states that you have to be inside a room 75% of the time. The second bullet, at the very least, needs to be removed.

doc.: IEEE /1468r2 Submission November 2015 Knut Odman, BroadcomSlide 10 WG Operations Manual 11-13/0001r4, clause Again, no superior rules force us to do anything. It’s a “may”. This rule is also very counter- productive as it forces members with no knowledge or interest to vote yes to avoid penalty. At a minimum, remove second bullet.

doc.: IEEE /1468r2 Submission November 2015 Knut Odman, BroadcomSlide 11 What this really is about We are all senior professionals. We are not school children to reprimand for skipping class. We are here mainly for two reasons: to learn about new technologies and to define standards that ultimately enable us to produce or buy better products. We give up time and money to be here. IEEE is a member driven organization. How would we have created the most successful wireless standard in history without the hard work of our members? The power is on the floor. It’s with us.

doc.: IEEE /1468r2 Submission Motion I Attendance for the purpose of voting rights shall be considered satisfied by attendee picking up badge Y/N/A: Moved: Knut Odman Seconded: November 2015 Knut Odman, BroadcomSlide 12

doc.: IEEE /1468r2 Submission Motion II All punitive revocation of voting rights due to not participating in WG ballots shall stop effective immediately Y/N/A: Moved: Knut Odman Seconded: November 2015 Knut Odman, BroadcomSlide 13

doc.: IEEE /1468r2 Submission November 2015 Knut Odman, BroadcomSlide 14 IEEE 802 LMSC Operations Manual, clause 6.2

doc.: IEEE /1468r2 Submission Motion III If motion I passes, the resolution shall be the Directed Position of the Working Group. Y/N/A: Moved: Knut Odman Seconded: November 2015 Knut Odman, BroadcomSlide 15

doc.: IEEE /1468r2 Submission Motion IV If motion II passes, the resolution shall be the Directed Position of the Working Group. Y/N/A: Moved: Knut Odman Seconded: November 2015 Knut Odman, BroadcomSlide 16