Job 11-12. Job 11 Zophar Last of Job's friends Name means “sparrow”: twitterer He is a legalist Assumes God works by measure‏ Pretends to know what God.

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Job 11-12

Job 11 Zophar Last of Job's friends Name means “sparrow”: twitterer He is a legalist Assumes God works by measure‏ Pretends to know what God will do

Job 11 Zophar Different from Bildad Bildad said one can learn from past Zophar emphasizes the laws Says universe is run by laws Can't have laws w/o lawmaker

Job 11 Zophar Seems to have all the answers Ever known that type? Ever been that type? ;-)‏ Zophar says God bound by laws Never operates outside His laws Probably senior of the threesome

Job 11 Zophar More candid and crude than Bildad We shall see...

Job 11 Zophar Job 11:1-2 Says Job covering sin w words Job already said not putting up a front Zophar ignores that Thinks Job trying to talk his way out of situation

Job 11 Zophar Job 11:1-2 Some men are clever that way Lawyers win cases that way Not so with Job; no guile in him

Job 11 Zophar Job 11:3 Accuses Job of lying NIV idle talk -> KJV lies Says Job is hypocrite See how crude? More so than Bildad

Job 11 Zophar Job 11:3 Claims inside track with God Thinks he knows what God will do Assumes Job is on the outside So clearly Zophar can help Because Zophar has word of God

Job 11 Zophar Job 11:4-5 Since God wasn't speaking Zophar would speak for Him Some make that claim today We can “Holy Spirit” each other

Job 11 Zophar Job 11:4-5 Did Zophar have a message for Job?

Job 11 Zophar Job 11:6 On surface, sounds like comfort Actually, it is more of a blow Says Job not getting half of what he really has coming to him This is a hard statement

Job 11 Zophar Job 11:6 Not helpful to Job Remember, Job is sick Job is in desperate pain Job thinks he is close to death

Job 11 Zophar Job 11:7 True statement; great statement But duh! Everyone knows that Job will even say just that later No man can discover God God is revealed

Job 11 Zophar Job 11:7 “The only way that you can know about God is what He is pleased to reveal of Himself to us. I have come to the conclusion that He has revealed very little of Himself to us.”

Job 11 Zophar Job 11:7 Can't find God like Columbus Can't go out into space to find Him Yuri Gagarin, CCCP Trying to find Him that way is absurd!

Job 11 Zophar Job 11:8-9 Lofty discourse about God Tremendous verbage Limitless limits But still not helping Job

Job 11 Zophar Job 11:10-12 Speaks of Job here Not speaking of himself None of this applies to Zophar! He feels that he has the answer

Job 11 Zophar Job 11:13-14 Says Job is hiding something All 3 friends assume this Just reveal it to God & be done Job not aware of anything to spill But there is something; we'll see

Job 11 Zophar Job 11:15-19 Just deal w your sin Quit fighting it; confess it Then God would hear you Then God would answer you Then God would restore you

Job 11 Zophar Job 11:15-19 Then you'd forget your troubles They'd be long gone Is that the Christian life? Be saved and be trouble free?

Job 11 Zophar Job 11:15-19 Then what is the difference between a Christian experiencing trials of life and a non-Christian? (Should there be a difference?) ;-)‏

Job 11 Zophar Job 11:20 “You are going to come to the time when the judgement of God will be upon you unless you confess your secret sin.” Predicts absolute & complete judgement of Job

Job 11 Zophar Job 11:20 Now we've heard all 3 of Job's friends Job's answer will be one of the lengthiest discourses in the book

Job 12 Job Job 12:1-2 Job gets sarcastic Who can blame him? “You guys have all the answers” “I'm just a simple dummy”

Job 12 Job Job 12:3 Job knows as much as they know They are not speaking to reality Something to call to our attention

Job 12 Job Job 12:3 “Instead of leading Job to self- judgement, the 3 friends only minister to a spirit of self- vindication in Job. They make an attack upon him forcing him to defend himself.”

Job 12 Friends Job 12:3 Didn't introduce Job to God Didn't speak of God of mercy No God of grace here Only God of law He is all the above

Job 12 Friends Job 12:3 Brought experience, tradition, legality... but not truth Job wound up defending himself Justifying himself Not justifying God

Job 12 Job Job 12:3 Looks like saying God is wrong Like God is one to be criticized Many people take this position Even many Christian people

Job 12 Friends Job 12:3 Should have led Job to condemn himself and vindicate God God records all these discourses to reveal this truth Job not broken in spirit here Not humble in God's presence

Job 12 Friends Job 12:3 “His friends never brought him to the place where he said as Paul said, 'I know that nothing good lives in me' (Rom 7:18), or 'By the grace of God I am what I am' (1 Cor 15:10).

Job 11 References J. Vernon McGee Commentary