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Submission 802.11-16/0051r1Jan 2016 Slide 1David Xun Yang et al. (Huawei) Response Given Trigger Frame Type Date: 2016-01-17 NameAffiliationAddressPhoneEmail.

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1 Submission 802.11-16/0051r1Jan 2016 Slide 1David Xun Yang et al. (Huawei) Response Given Trigger Frame Type Date: 2016-01-17 NameAffiliationAddressPhoneEmail Ross Jian Yu F1-17, Huawei Base, Bantian, Shenzhen ross.yujian@huawei.com David X. Yang F1-17, Huawei Base, Bantian, Shenzhen david.yangxun@huawei.com Peter Loc Huawei peterloc@iwirelesstech.com Le Liu F1-17, Huawei Base, Bantian, Shenzhen +86-18601656691 liule@huawei.com Jun Luo 5B-N8, No.2222 Xinjinqiao Road, Pudong, Shanghai jun.l@huawei.com Yi Luo F1-17, Huawei Base, Bantian, Shenzhen +86-18665891036 Roy.luoyi@huawei.com Yingpei Lin 5B-N8, No.2222 Xinjinqiao Road, Pudong, Shanghai linyingpei@huawei.com Jiyong Pang 5B-N8, No.2222 Xinjinqiao Road, Pudong, Shanghai pangjiyong@huawei.com Zhigang Rong 10180 Telesis Court, Suite 365, San Diego, CA 92121 NA zhigang.rong@huawei.com Rob Sun 303 Terry Fox, Suite 400 Kanata, Ottawa, Canada Rob.Sun@huawei.com Yunsong Yang 10180 Telesis Court, Suite 365, San Diego, CA 92121 NA yangyunsong@huawei.com Junghoon Suh 303 Terry Fox, Suite 400 Kanata, Ottawa, Canada Junghoon.Suh@huawei.com

2 Submission 802.11-16/0051r1Jan 2016 Slide 2 Authors (continued) NameAffiliationAddressPhoneEmail Jiayin Zhang Huawei 5B-N8, No.2222 Xinjinqiao Road, Pudong, Shanghai +86-18601656691 zhangjiayin@huawei.com Edward Au 303 Terry Fox, Suite 400 Kanata, Ottawa, Canada edward.ks.au@huawei.com Teyan Chen F1-17, Huawei Base, Bantian, Shenzhen chenteyan@huawei.com Yunbo Li F1-17, Huawei Base, Bantian, Shenzhen liyunbo@huawei.com

3 Submission 802.11-16/0051r1Jan 2016 Slide 3 Authors (continued) NameAffiliationAddressPhoneEmail Hongyuan Zhang Marvell 5488 Marvell Lane, Santa Clara, CA, 95054 408-222-2500 hongyuan@marvell.com Yakun Sun yakunsun@marvell.com Lei Wang Leileiw@marvell.com Liwen Chu liwenchu@marvell.com Jinjing Jiang jinjing@marvell.com Yan Zhang yzhang@marvell.com Rui Cao ruicao@marvell.com Sudhir Srinivasa sudhirs@marvell.com Bo Yu boyu@marvell.com Saga Tamhane sagar@marvell.com Mao Yu my@marvel..com Xiayu Zheng xzheng@marvell.com Christian Berger crberger@marvell.com Niranjan Grandhe ngrandhe@marvell.com Hui-Ling Lou hlou@marvell.com

4 Submission 802.11-16/0051r1Jan 2016 Slide 4 Authors (continued) NameAffiliationAddressPhoneEmail Alice Chen Qualcomm 5775 Morehouse Dr. San Diego, CA, USA alicel@qti.qualcomm.com Albert Van Zelst Straatweg 66-S Breukelen, 3621 BR Netherlands allert@qti.qualcomm.com Alfred Asterjadhi 5775 Morehouse Dr. San Diego, CA, USA aasterja@qti.qualcomm.com Arjun Bharadwaj 5775 Morehouse Dr. San Diego, CA, USA arjunb@qti.qualcomm.com Bin Tian 5775 Morehouse Dr. San Diego, CA, USA btian@qti.qualcomm.com Carlos Aldana 1700 Technology Drive San Jose, CA 95110, USA caldana@qca.qualcomm.com George Cherian 5775 Morehouse Dr. San Diego, CA, USA gcherian@qti.qualcomm.com Gwendolyn Barriac 5775 Morehouse Dr. San Diego, CA, USA gbarriac@qti.qualcomm.com Hemanth Sampath 5775 Morehouse Dr. San Diego, CA, USA hsampath@qti.qualcomm.com Lin Yang 5775 Morehouse Dr. San Diego, CA, USA linyang@qti.qualcomm.com Menzo Wentink Straatweg 66-S Breukelen, 3621 BR Netherlands mwentink@qti.qualcomm.com Naveen Kakani 2100 Lakeside Boulevard Suite 475, Richardson TX 75082, USA nkakani@qti.qualcomm.com Raja Banerjea 1060 Rincon Circle San Jose CA 95131, USA rajab@qit.qualcomm.com Richard Van Nee Straatweg 66-S Breukelen, 3621 BR Netherlands rvannee@qti.qualcomm.com

5 Submission 802.11-16/0051r1Jan 2016 Slide 5 Authors (continued) NameAffiliationAddressPhoneEmail Rolf De Vegt Qualcomm 1700 Technology Drive San Jose, CA 95110, USA rolfv@qca.qualcomm.com Sameer Vermani 5775 Morehouse Dr. San Diego, CA, USA svverman@qti.qualcomm.com Simone Merlin 5775 Morehouse Dr. San Diego, CA, USA smerlin@qti.qualcomm.com Tao Tian 5775 Morehouse Dr. San Diego, CA, USA ttian@qti.qualcomm.com Tevfik Yucek 1700 Technology Drive San Jose, CA 95110, USA tyucek@qca.qualcomm.com VK Jones 1700 Technology Drive San Jose, CA 95110, USA vkjones@qca.qualcomm.com Youhan Kim 1700 Technology Drive San Jose, CA 95110, USA youhank@qca.qualcomm.com

6 Submission 802.11-16/0051r1Jan 2016 Slide 6 Authors (continued) Joonsuk Kim Apple joonsuk@apple.com Aon Mujtaba mujtaba@apple.com Guoqing Li guoqing_li@apple.com Eric Wong ericwong@apple.com Chris Hartmanchartman@apple.com NameAffiliationAddressPhoneEmail James Yee Mediatek No. 1 Dusing 1 st Road, Hsinchu, Taiwan +886-3-567-0766 james.yee@mediatek.com Alan Jauh alan.jauh@mediatek.com Chingwa Hu chinghwa.yu@mediatek.co m Frank Hsu frank.hsu@mediatek.com Thomas Pare Mediatek USA 2860 Junction Ave, San Jose, CA 95134, USA +1-408-526-1899 thomas.pare@mediatek.com ChaoChun Wang chaochun.wang@mediatek.c om James Wang james.wang@mediatek.com Jianhan Liu Jianhan.Liu@mediatek.com Tianyu Wu tianyu.wu@mediatek.com Zhou Lan Zhou.lan@mediaTek.com Russell Huang russell.huang@mediatek.co m

7 Submission 802.11-16/0051r1Jan 2016 Slide 7 Authors (continued) Robert Stacey Intel 2111 NE 25th Ave, Hillsboro OR 97124, USA +1-503-724-893 robert.stacey@intel.com Shahrnaz Azizi shahrnaz.azizi@intel.com Po-Kai Huang po-kai.huang@intel.com Qinghua Li quinghua.li@intel.com Xiaogang Chen xiaogang.c.chen@intel.com Chitto Ghosh chittabrata.ghosh@intel.com Laurent Cariou laurent.cariou@intel.com Yaron Alpert yaron.alpert@intel.com Assaf Gurevitz assaf.gurevitz@intel.com Ilan Sutskover ilan.sutskover@intel.com NameAffiliation AddressPhoneEmail Ron Porat Broadcom rporat@broadcom.com Sriram Venkateswaran mfischer@broadcom.com Matthew Fischer Leo Montreuil Andrew Blanksby Vinko Erceg

8 Submission 802.11-16/0051r1Jan 2016 Slide 8 Authors (continued) NameAffiliationAddressPhoneEmail Jinmin Kim LG Electronics 19, Yangjae-daero 11gil, Seocho-gu, Seoul 137- 130, Korea Jinmin1230.kim@lge.com Kiseon Ryu kiseon.ryu@lge.com Jinyoung Chun jiny.chun@lge.com Jinsoo Choi js.choi@lge.com Jeongki Kim jeongki.kim@lge.com Dongguk Lim dongguk.lim@lge.com Suhwook Kim suhwook.kim@lge.com Eunsung Park esung.park@lge.com JayH Park Hyunh.park@lge.com HanGyu Cho hg.cho@lge.com Thomas DerhamOrange thomas.derham@orange.com Bo Sun ZTE #9 Wuxingduan, Xifeng Rd., Xi'an, China sun.bo1@zte.com.cn Kaiying Lv lv.kaiying@zte.com.cn Yonggang Fang yfang@ztetx.com Ke Yao yao.ke5@zte.com.cn Weimin Xing xing.weimin@zte.com.cn Brian Hart Cisco Systems 170 W Tasman Dr, San Jose, CA 95134 brianh@cisco.com Pooya Monajemi pmonajem@cisco.com

9 Submission 802.11-16/0051r1Jan 2016 Slide 9 Authors (continued) NameAffiliationAddressPhoneEmail Fei Tong Samsung Innovation Park, Cambridge CB4 0DS (U.K.) +44 1223 434633 f.tong@samsung.com Hyunjeong Kang Maetan 3-dong; Yongtong-Gu Suwon; South Korea +82-31-279-9028 hyunjeong.kang@samsung.com Kaushik Josiam 1301, E. Lookout Dr, Richardson TX 75070 (972) 761 7437 k.josiam@samsung.com Mark Rison Innovation Park, Cambridge CB4 0DS (U.K.) +44 1223 434600 m.rison@samsung.com Rakesh Taori 1301, E. Lookout Dr, Richardson TX 75070 (972) 761 7470 rakesh.taori@samsung.com Sanghyun Chang Maetan 3-dong; Yongtong-Gu Suwon; South Korea +82-10-8864-1751 s29.chang@samsung.com Yasushi Takatori NTT 1-1 Hikari-no-oka, Yokosuka, Kanagawa 239-0847 Japan +81 46 859 3135 takatori.yasushi@lab.ntt.co.jp Yasuhiko Inoue +81 46 859 5097 inoue.yasuhiko@lab.ntt.co.jp Shoko Shinohara +81 46 859 5107 Shinohara.shoko@lab.ntt.co.jp Yusuke Asai +81 46 859 3494 asai.yusuke@lab.ntt.co.jp Koichi Ishihara +81 46 859 4233 ishihara.koichi@lab.ntt.co.jp Junichi Iwatani +81 46 859 4222 Iwatani.junichi@lab.ntt.co.jp Akira YamadaNTT DOCOMO 3-6, Hikarinooka, Yokosuka- shi, Kanagawa, 239-8536, Japan +81 46 840 3759 yamadaakira@nttdocomo.com

10 Submission 802.11-16/0051r1Jan 2016 Slide 10 Authors (continued) NameAffiliationAddressPhoneEmail Masahito Mori Sony Corp. Masahito.Mori@jp.sony.com Yusuke TanakaYusukeC.Tanaka@jp.sony.com Yuichi MoriokaYuichi.Morioka@jp.sony.com Kazuyuki SakodaKazuyuki.Sakoda@am.sony.com William CarneyWilliam.Carney@am.sony.com

11 Submission 802.11-16/0051r1Jan 2016 Introduction Trigger type (allowed response type / Trigger frame variant) is in the common info field to indicate the allowed response type of the UL MAC frames In this contribution, we discuss how the STAs respond given the allowed response type Slide 11David Xun Yang et al. (Huawei)

12 Submission 802.11-16/0051r1Jan 2016 Response Given the Trigger Type When the AP sends a trigger frame variant, e.g., TF for CSI (or BF report poll trigger), here are several options for the response rule –Opt1: The response shall only contain the frame with required type; if there is no frame with the required type, the STA shall transmit QoS Null frame –Opt2: The response shall contain at least frame with required type if the required type is available at the STA side; if there is no frame with the required type, the STA shall transmit QoS Null frame –Opt3: The response shall contain at least the frame with required type if the required type is available at the STA side; if there is no frame with the required type, the STA can transmit other frame(s) without required type restriction (e.g., data frame) Slide 12David Xun Yang et al. (Huawei) QoS Null

13 Submission 802.11-16/0051r1Jan 2016 Pros. VS. Cons. Opt1: The response shall only contain the frame with required type if the required type is available at the STA side; if there is no frame with the required type, the STA shall transmit QoS Null frame –Pros: easy for implementation and scheduling –Cons: a lot of padding may exist, the efficiency is low Opt2: The response shall contain at least frame with required type if the required type is available at the STA side; if there is no frame with the required type, the STA shall transmit QoS Null frame –Pros: easy for implementation, aggregation of other types of MAC frames (e.g., data frame) will increase the efficiency –Cons: the resource will be wasted if no required response is available Opt3: The response shall contain at least the frame with required type if the required type is available at the STA side; if there is no frame with the required type,, the STA can transmit other frame(s) without required type restriction (e.g., data frame) –Pros: efficiency can be high even no required response is available –Cons: the implementation and state machine are very complicated. Difficult for scheduling. We prefer Opt2, and think Opt3 can be helpful Slide 13David Xun Yang et al. (Huawei)

14 Submission 802.11-16/0051r1Jan 2016 Reference 11-15-0132-13-00ax-spec-framework Slide 14David Xun Yang et al. (Huawei)

15 Submission 802.11-16/0051r1Jan 2016 Straw Poll Do you support to add the following to the SFD: –If the trigger frame requests a specific frame type as response, the response to this trigger frame shall contain at least the frame with the required type if the required type is available at the STA side; if the STA has no frame with the required type, the STA should transmit QoS Null frame to AP. –Y –N –A Slide 15David Xun Yang et al. (Huawei)

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