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Performances of the HV system out of Drawers Roméo Bonnefoy, Robert Chadelas, Christian Fayard, Marie-Lise Mercier, Eric Sahuc and François Vazeille (LPC Clermont-Ferrand) Tilecal upgrade meeting (2014 February 7 th ) ● Reminder of the basic principles ● Set ups ● Definitions of the measures ● Tested combinations ● Results ● Next developments ● Conclusions ● Appendix: Component references 1
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● Reminder of the basic principles ◊ General constraints - HV distribution towards Mini-Drawers (Maximum of 12 HV channels). - HV performances similar to the present ATLAS conditions: they are better than the initial specifications of HV stability ≤ 0.5 V. - Possibility of individual HV channel switching. - Improved HV safety (Dust, metallic pieces, humidity, hazards…). - Increased radiation levels. ◊ Specific principles of the studied option - Regulation system in USA15 using the same electronics schemes. - Distribution of the individual HVs via Multiconductor cables. - Passive HV bus cards. Permanent access to the electronics and reliability. Full insensitivity to radiations. Cheap. ◊ R&D requested, - In particular the regulation and noise aspects. - If validated HV supply for the Demonstrator in Building 175. 2
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● Set-ups - The set-up is the same in the tests made at LPC Clermont-Ferrand and in the building 175 at CERN. - The same components are used also (HV crate, cables, HV bus cards, FE parts). CERN 3
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HV Bus boards (no active components) 12 channels. - A 4-layer printed circuit: External layers as shielding, Internal layers to distribute the HVs. - Noise killers (1K ) everywhere. HV regulation crate: ¼ of the total space (4 Modules later) HV outside LV’s inside CANBUS Rear Front DCS HV Source LV HV cards on special supports The LV/HV supplies. Channel ordering. recovery. 4
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● Definitions of the measures ◊ Noise measures i 48 1 T1T2T3T4 FE - Digital scope on 1 M (20 ms/scale unit, cut frequency at 20 MHz). -Measure = “Peak to Peak“ variations = RMS on the total applied HV ≤ ( /2) x (1/k) /sqrt(12) for a uniform distribution which is the most pessimistic case. -Noise level very low: around 1 mV The estimate is not easy: accuracy of about 10%, bigger for larger noises > 5 mV. -Made through Dividers. -At the last stage level: a fraction k of the applied HV (See the schemes in the Back up slides). 5
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◊ HV regulation measures -Made as usually on the HV Opto cards, from the DCS recorded data. (Frequency of one applied HV measure every 10 seconds on the individual 48 channels.) -Other information recorded: applied HV source, LVs, temperatures … enable to qualify the stability of the environment. Results on stability of each channel given by its distribution RMS. Comparison with the present Tilecal HV stability of channels. ◊ HV drop measures -Made to see the possible effects of the multiconductor cable lengths. ◊ PMT/LED/full HV set-up signals Divider + PMT + LED (Scope 50 ) 6 -Made to see the possible noise effects.
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▪LV inside HV crate ▪LV outside HV crate ▪HV LPC1 ▪HV LPC2 ▪HV Tilecal ▪HV Opto Tilecal ▪HV Opto Prototype ▪1.52 m ▪20 m (4) ▪100 m ▪Load ▪Passive Divider ▪Active Divider 2 sites: all combinations ▪ LPC Clermont-Ferrand ▪ Building 175 CERN without/with load ● Tested combinations ▪HV Bus inside Bench ▪HV Bus outside Bench BUS A big number of combinations ! 7
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◊ FE part: several set-ups are compared - Pure load : Resistor of 3 M (Close to 3in1 card). Comment: Not fully equivalent to the reality where there are also capacitance effects, not necessarily harmful at the noise level. - Passive/Active Dividers, without or with the 2 groundings (Readout and HV) interconnected. Comment: As the Active Dividers have active components (Transistors, Diodes), some additional noise should be visible, by wishing it stays very low. ◊ Multiconductor cable lengths -These cables connect the HV regulation crate to the Super-Drawer Patch Panel. - Three lengths were compared, each one corresponding to specific conditions: ▪ Short cable (1.52 m) : to be not far away the present Tilecal conditions. ▪ Medium cable (20 m): to fit the Building 175 conditions. ▪ Long cable (100 m): to reproduce the distance USA 15-Detector. - Short additional lengths must be added to supply inside, respectively, the Mini-Drawers 1 to 4: 0.145, 0.835, 1.525, 2.225 m (with an uncertainty of 5 mm). 8
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◊ Low Voltage Power Supplies -Two locations and types of LV Power Supplies are compared: ▪ Inside the HV regulation crate: specially designed Switching Power Supplies. ▪ Outside the HV regulation crate: Linear Power Supplies used in workshop. - Comment: The inside implementation offers a self working crate system. ◊ High Voltage Source Power Supplies - Three types of HV Power Supplies are compared: ▪Commercial Power Supplies used in workshop studies (Siemel Cie and FUG). ▪Tilecal Power Supply (Tesla Cie). - Comment: The HV source is adjusted at – 830 V and must deliver up to 12 mA. ◊ Electromagnetic shielding -The HV Bus cards have grounded their 2 external layers. -Tests made in an open space then inside a closed box. 9
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◊ HV Opto cards -Some story! ▪ Historically, the first design (Scheme 1) of the HV Opto card had no transistors outside the Optocouplers of the regulation loop. ▪ The first campaign of radiation tests showed the sensitivity of Optocouplers: gain losses at the 2 Opto sides: Opto and Transistor regulation failures at a certain radiation level. 1 2 5 46 Opto side Transistor and HV side ▪ The solution (Scheme 2) was to “boost” the 2 sides by putting Transistors New scheme. New radiation/qualification tests. Satisfying working of the HV system (well demonstrated by Tilecal data) but regulation loop more sensitive to the environment (Cable lengths, etc.). MOC8204 10
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Scheme 1Scheme 2 See the full schemes in the Back up slides - In this R&D study, the 2 schemes are compared, because there are no longer radiation concerns. - The best one will be chosen to measure the whole performances. 11
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● Several campaigns of tests -Because of the low noises, it is difficult to reproduce everywhere/every time the same environment. Example: Changing the sector mains of the various elements (HV and LV supplies, scope) can affect the results. -After a time consuming learning phase of several months, Tests made in 5 periods: LPC 2013 November 19-21 CERN 2013 November 25-27 LPC 2013 December 18-19 LPC 2014 January 24-25 LPC 2014 February 3-4 12
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● Results ◊ Noise studies Step 1: Search of the most significant effects. Step 2: Performances of the best solution. Step 1: Search of significant effects □ What could be expected, even though the noise could be very low ? - Every time Transistors ( gains) are concerned in the comparisons noise is expected to be increased. A priori there are 2 concerns: - The HV Opto Scheme 2/Scheme 1 - The Active Dividers/Passive Dividers - The noise would increase when the cables are longer. □ Other effects, likely smaller, cannot be easily foreseen before testing. The major role of the experiments. [Everywhere: HV in = - 830 V, all individual HV out = -700 V.] 13
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□ Effects of Transistors and cable lengths: Search of the most significant effects (LPC, Linear LV, HV LPC2) Opto Type Divider1.5 m100 m Scheme 1Passive1.40±0.10 (0.35)1.43±0.10 (0.34) Active1.70±0.10 (0.34)1.78±0.17 (0.40) Scheme 2Passive1.16±0.11 (0.37)4.54±0.35 (1.22) Active1.54±0.10 (0.35)8.80±0.82 (2.83) Table 1: Mean (RMS) noise in mV from 12 channels (Drawer T1) using the same Passive/Active Dividers. ▪ With HV Opto Scheme 1 (Within the uncertainties): - The noise is independent from the cable length: 1.40 1.43 mV 1.70 1.78 mV - The noise is slightly higher using Active Dividers: + 0.3 mV for 1.5 m, + 0.35 mV for 100 m. ▪ With HV Opto Scheme 2: it is no longer true - The noise is very dependent from the cable length: 1.16 4.5 mV 1.54 8.8 mV - The noise is higher using Active Dividers: + 0.28 mV for 1.5 m, + 4.3 mV for 100 m. 14
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Comment: The scheme 2 would be slightly better for a short cable of 1.5 m - 0.24 mV for Passive and – 0.16 mV for Active Dividers. Is it true for the present shorter cables (0.165 m) in Scheme 2 Tilecal ? □ Effects of Low Voltage Power Supplies (LPC, HV LPC2) DividerLV Power Supply1.5 m100 m PassiveLinear1.40±0.10 (0.35)1.43±0.10 (0.34) Switching1.45±0.10 (0.33)1.51±0.13 (0.45) ActiveLinear1.70±0.10 (0.34)1.78±0.17 (0.40) Switching1.80±0.14 (0.47)1.84±0.09 (0.31) Table 2: Mean (RMS) noise in mV from 12 channels (Drawer T1) for the Scheme 1, using the same Passive/Active Dividers. ▪ The Switching PS increases the noise of about 0.05-0.10 mV … within the uncertainties. ▪ All the conclusions of Table 1 are still valid. Conclusion: The Scheme 1 is taken as the best solution for long cables. Conclusion: The HV Regulation crate can be used with its Switching PS. 15
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□ Effects of parasitic noises in an open space (LPC, Switching LV, HV LPC2) DividerSpace100 m PassiveOpen1.43±0.10 (0.33) Closed1.45±0.11 (0.37) ActiveOpen1.78±0.17 (0.40) Closed1.76±0.08 (0.27) Table 3: Mean (RMS) noise in mV from 12 channels (T1) for the Scheme 1 and Switching PS, using the same Passive/Active Dividers. -The measures are made in the case: Switching PS and 100 m long cable. -The closed space is the Drawer Test Bench Some electromagnetic shielding. ▪ No difference within the uncertainties. ▪ Comment: We cannot guarantee that this box gave a perfect shielding. Conclusion: The HV Bus boards would be well shielded themselves. 16
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Site HV Source Divider100 m LPC LPC1 HV Passive1.57±0.14 (0.48) Active2.05±0.09 (0.30) LPC LPC2 HV Passive1.43±0.10 (0.34) Active1.78±0.17 (0.40) CERN LPC1 HV Passive2.09±0.08 (0.29) Active2.40±0.07 (0.25) CERN Prague HV Passive2.16±0.08 (0.27) Active2.49±0.10 (0.34) □ Effects of HV Source and sites (LPC and CERN, linear LV) - CERN measures in the Building 175. - Open space at LPC/CERN. - At CERN, after a while, LPC1 HV failed - Back to LPC LPC2 HV. 175 ▪ Effect of site (same LPC1 HV) noise slightly higher: Passive + 0.52 mV Active + 0.35 mV Growing compatible within uncertainties. ▪ Effect of HV source types: CERN LPC1 HV/Prague HV very close (0.07, 0.09) LPC LPC2 HV better than LPC1 HV (-0.14, - 0.27) within uncertainties or … environment ? Conclusion: The environment can play a role, and at a lower level the HV sources. Table 4: … always for 12 channels. 17
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□ Extreme conditions - Obtained at CERN, in the following conditions : Linear LV, Prague HV, Scheme 2, 100 m long cable, T1, Active Divider with large instantaneous variations : Mean of 135± 22 (78.0) mV Minimum channels (#9 and 11): 57.5 mV Maximum channel (#10): 322 mV Channel # 1 used later for LED test: 92 mV - Obviously not recommended ! 18
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Step 2: Performances Data recording of tests Four 20 m long cables - Using the set-up with 4 times 20 m long cables Goal to instrument the Building 175. - Whole Super-Drawer (4 Mini-Drawers) and whole HV set (1 HV Micro + 2 HV Opto + 4 HV Bus + internal cables + 4 long cables). Example of the CERN set-up 19
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DividerLPCCERN Passive1.26±0.04 (0.26)1.82±0.03 (0.23) Active1.65±0.04 (0.28)2.31±0.05 (0.33) Table 5: … for 48 channels and 20 m long cables. ▪The results are slightly better than those ones as shown till now, but compatible within the uncertainties: The noise is always < 2.5 mV. ▪ The site effect is very clear: Passive + 0.56±0.05 mV Active + 0.66±0.06 mV but it is difficult to reproduce exactly the same conditions. ▪ The noise is higher using active Dividers … but stays very low in absolute value. LPC + 0.39 ±0.06 mV CERN + 0.49 ±0.06 mV 20
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DrawerDividerLPCCERN T1Passive1.24±0.08 (0.29)1.79±0.07 (0.25) Active1.62±0.06 (0.20)2.28±0.10 (0.35) T2Passive1.25±0.08 (0.26)1.80±0.08 (0.29) Active1.63±0.07 (0.23)2.34±0.12 (0.42) T3Passive1.25±0.06 (0.21)1.81±0.04 (0.15) Active1.61±0.06 (0.22)2.21±0.06 (0.22) T4Passive1.28±0.09 (0.31)1.88±0.06 (0.22) Active1.71±0.12 (0.43)2.40±0.09 (0.31) Table 6: Comparison of the 4 Drawer sets and 20 m long cables. ▪ Made of different components: Cables (internal, long), HV Opto cards HV Bus cards the 4 sets give very close results within the uncertainties. Conclusion: The noise levels are the same within a Super-Drawer. independently from components. 21
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◊ Regulation studies □ From the Drawer T1 (only way to compare with the 100 m long cable) Cable length (m) Run duration (H:Min) Mean Variation (µV) Mean± Mean ( Distr. ) Minimum variation Maximum variation 2014:4327.4±5.1 (17.6)0.51.7 10016:0840.0±7.6 (26.4)0.76.9 Table 7: Stability of 12 channels in µV (Linear LV, HV LPC1), at LPC [Scheme 1]. The cable lengths have no or a very low impact on the HV regulations. Site (100 m) Run duration (H:Min) Mean Variation (µV) Mean± Mean ( Distr. ) Minimum variation Maximum variation LPC16:0840.0±7.6 (26.4)0.76.9 CERN1:0035.4±6.8 (23.5)0.77.2 Table 8: Stability of 12 channels in µV (Linear LV, HV LPC1 at LPC, HV Prague at CERN) [Scheme 1]. The results are very close. 22
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Loads Run duration (H:Min) Mean Variation (µV) Mean± Mean ( Distr. ) Minimum variation Maximum variation Resistors1:35107±16 (54.3)45.8205.1 Dividers0:3431.8±5.2 (18.1)0.50.2 Table 9: Stability of 12 channels in µV for Scheme 2 and a 100 m long cable (Linear LV, HV LPC1 at LPC, HV Prague at CERN). ▪ Comment: In the second case, Passive and Active Dividers (Grounds open) equip the odd and even channels. ▪ In this worst set-up: - The regulation stays within the Tilecal specifications (≤ 500 µV). - Loads having resistors + capacitors (Such as the Dividers) are more efficient than Pure resistive loads. 23 What stability in the worst case ? (See previous noise studies): Scheme 2 and 100 m long cable. These results show the efficiency of the regulation loop … but nevertheless this set-up is never recommended.
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□ From the whole set-up using the four 20 m long cables at LPC Site Run duration (H:Min) Mean Variation (µV) Mean± Mean ( Distr. ) Minimum variation Maximum variation LPC14:4329.8±6.2 (21.6)0.89.8 Table 10: Stability of 48 channels in µV (Linear LV, HV LPC1) [Scheme 1]. ▪ The regulation stays within the Tilecal specifications (≤ 500 µV). ▪ It is compatible with the ATLAS recorded data in 2012-2013: RMS = 100 µV [Reference: Loic Valéry] Conclusions: - The stability of the regulation fits fully the Tilecal specifications. - It is guaranteed independently from the cable lengths and from the other equipment's (Power supplies, for example). - It is still working even though the system is very noisy. 24
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◊ Noise/regulation correlation studies (Study made only in the optimum set-up [Scheme 1]) Noise (mV) HV Stability (µV) Stability/Noise of 48 channels (Linear LV, HV LPC1) (Table 10). Conclusion: There is no correlation between the stability and the noise. ◊ HV drop studies ▪ Direct voltage measures Drop of 1 mV for 20 m. Drop of 5 mV for 100 m. 25 Conclusion: The voltage drop is negligible with respect to the applied voltages.
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◊ LED/Divider/PMT studies Set-up with a PMT lighted by a LED and supplied by a 20/100 m long cable PMT signal of 1 V (equivalent to 100 GeV) ▪ Reference: output of the HV source (HV LPC1). The LED system gives a rather large signal of RMS about 14 mV for a short cable. ▪ Measures made at LPC/CERN. ▪ At CERN: large temperature fluctuations RMS below 14 mV at low temperature ▪ Connected at the output of the HV regulation crate: Difficult to see the noise effects, except in the extreme case (Scheme 2, 100 m long cable, etc.) Values up to 17.7 mV for channel #1 (noise of 92 mV). Conclusion: It is difficult to see the effect of low noises of some mV with respect to the applied 700 V A whole readout would give more information. 26
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● Next developments ◊ Multiconductor cable aspects -CERN certification: more information on the HV certification must be made. (Halogen free already guaranteed). Comment: That we made previously for the present Tilecal HV cables. -ATLAS routing : First contacts (Sergei Malyukof) promising, but we must go on. ◊ Space aspects in USA15 : estimate to do. 27 Comments: ▪ In ATLAS today, Tilecal is the less consuming of service space. ▪ Despite the increased needs: - Tilecal has perfectly the right to make this request. - It is very likely that will stay the less demanding. ◊ Missing measures to make: noise versus applied HV Till now: at 700 V. Next: range 600-800 V.
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◊ Optimization of the scheme -Individual channel switching : As the individual channel failures are rare Individual straps could be a simple, safe and cheap solution since the access to the crate is permanent. -Decision of the “re-use” of the HV cards (long sizes, special PCB as supports and channel organization) or a new making by optimizing the sizes and without special supports. -Optimization of the LV Power supplies inside the regulation crate. -Improvement of the HV bus cards at the Noise Killer level ▪ Noise Killers in the opposite side conditioned by existing connectors going though the printed circuits. ▪ If not available: Stiff coat or small plastic covers. 28
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● Conclusions ◊ A lot of combinations have been tested The simplest scheme is the best solution: Scheme 1 (No Transistors in the regulation loop). 29
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◊ It is satisfying fully the Tilecal specifications: - Very low noise level: below 2.5 mV in any set-ups Relative value < 0.0025/700 = 3.6 10 6. ▪ Minimum noise pick up at the HV Bus board Design. ▪ Negligible increase with respect to the cable length. - Regulation performances: Stability < 0.1 mV. - Insensitivity to radiations, humidity, dust and mechanical damages (Falling pieces, handling) [See talk in Tilecal maintenance weekly meeting about present HV Bus cards]. - Suppression of 3 Finger LVPS Bricks or 3 Voltage Regulators. - Possibility of cheap and safe individual channel switching, using straps. - Permanent access to the electronics 100% working of all channels - Likely a "cheap" solution … but a realistic estimate must be made. 30.
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◊ The present prototype can be used (as it is) to supply a Demonstrator in the Building 175 - The four 20 m long cables are in place. - A whole HV Bus set is at CERN. - Minor changes must be made on the regulation crate (Fans, front Patch Panel…). - Standard DCS is operational and can be connected to the existing DCS. 31 The 4 cables are routed HV LPC1 HV Prague HV crate
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DrawerT1 External T2T3T4 Internal HV Bus #1324 HV Opto # Scheme 1 External 004 Internal 005 HV Opto # Scheme 2 External 543 Internal 034 HV Micro #219 Appendix: Component references Noise and LED measures Passive Divider #108458 Active Divider #21 32 LED measures PMT #AA0491
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SideChannels/Divider numbers Odd1357911 233133343536 Even24681012 108382108387108390108405108448108469 Power Supplies HV HV LPC1C ie SIEMEL HV LPC2C ie FUG MCN 140-1250 HV PragueC ie TESLA LVLV LPC1 (Linear)C ie GW LV LPC2 (Switching)LPC assembly When resistive loads are not used 33
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HV noise measure from Passive Divider 37
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HV noise measure from Active Divider 38
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