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A Comparison of Amateur Radio Digital Voice Systems
Presented By: Mark Kleine N5HZR SCARS April 2016 Meeting Originally Prepared By: Roland Kraatz W9HPX Charlotte Digital Radio Group The future is digital. It will not replace FM any time soon. NexEdge is too new for us to cover now. 1
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Topics Digital voice description Technical comparison
Operational features Programmability Radio choices Oklahoma DV repeaters Information sources Q & A Similarities & Differences. Presentation will be more in depth than the QST article, but not cover P25 and NXDN See p30 April 2015 QST 2
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What is Digital Voice? Audio to be sent is digitized in the user radio
Digital audio is processed through a vocoder to compress the data and add forward error correction Data is chopped into uniform length packets Header data is pre-pended to provide sync bits, routing instructions and user identity Other data can be interleaved or substituted for the voice to send text, pictures or other files Digital data modulates an RF carrier 3
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Packet Structure View All packetized data, but different structures. 4
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Tech Spec Comparison D-STAR DMR Fusion Vocoder (see note) AMBE+ AMBE+2 Forward Error Corr. Voice Only Modulation GMSK 4FSK C4FM Multiplex Method FDMA TDMA Transmission Rate 4.8 kbps 4.8 kbps x 2 9.6 kbps Bandwidth 6.25 kHz 12.5 kHz Channels supported 1 2 Standard Developer JARL ETSI Yaesu ETSI = European Telecommunications Standards Institute, JARL = Japan Amateur Radio League, DSP firmware can be upgraded in the future GMSK = Gaussian Minimum Shift Keying 4FSK = 4-level Frequency Shift Keying C4FM = Continuous 4-level Frequency Modulation FDMA = Frequency Division Multiple Access TDMA = Time Division Multiple Access Note: Newer radios implement the vocoder in the DSP chip 5
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Bandwidth Comparison D-STAR is narrowest. 6
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User Identification D-STAR DMR Fusion Registration required? Yes No
User identity Call sign Subscriber ID ID displayed on radio’s display Subscriber ID* Other text display options 4 characters 20 characters Adequate for FCC ID? Yes† * Call sign is displayed if the receiving station’s subscriber ID has been programmed in the radio’s contact list; otherwise subscriber ID appears. † While voice ID is not required by law, it is still a good idea for the benefit of everyone listening. 7
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Repeater Connect-ability
D-STAR DMR Fusion Talk locally Yes Link to another repeater No Multi-repeater connection Reflectors Talk Groups * WIRES-X Rooms Selection method UR entry Channel Dial Room name or number Direct Route to another ham Echo test Request link status Call sign routing is rarely used in the US because gateways (G2, ircDDB, Quadnet) don’t cross communicate. * “Reflectors” in Europe. 8
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Radio Operating Features
D-STAR DMR Fusion Memory selection Dial or GPS search Key Press Dial Repeater connection selection Key press Mode selection method Memory stored Key press * Radio programming complexity Difficult/Easy ◊ Difficult Easy Newbie learning curve Steep Fairly easy User manual pages 425 (ID-51) 65 (CS-700) 340 (FT-2DR) Newer radios are more complex; therefore more manual pages. * Fusion radios have AMS (automatic mode select) ◊ Older D-STAR radios are more difficult to program. Newer ones are pre-programmed, but must be updated as repeaters change. 9
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Narrow – Good Wide - Very Good
Signal Readability FM D-STAR DMR Fusion * Voice naturalness Very Good Good Narrow – Good Wide - Very Good Signal noise Varies None Sync robustness N/A Fair Sync recoverability Poor Best * Fusion has two bandwidth voice modes. Wide sounds slightly better than narrow. Sync robustness is the tendency to fall out of sync Sync recoverability is the ability to recover sync quickly The opinions shown here are highly subjective. Your opinion may differ. Voice quality suffers every time you digitize and compress voice data. 10
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Networking Characteristics
D-STAR User controlability – substantial Networking options – G2, D-Plus, ircDDB Innovation ability – many efforts and accomplishments DMR Centrally controlled structure – inflexible Networking options – c-bridge, hytera Innovation ability – limited, but not impossible Fusion Yaesu controlled servers – inflexible Networking options – WIRES-X Innovation ability – limited, but hams are just getting started For the end user, it’s the “networking system” that really make the difference in the protocols from the end user perspective. Systems built for commercial or Public Safety are optimized for their use of simple turn the dial and talk. Systems built for Amateur Radio are optimized for our use - programmability. As such, Amateur systems use call signs, allow repeater linking, and are “operated” by the end users. Commercial systems use subscriber identifiers, channels instead of linking, and are “operated” by Administrators. Problem is there are too many options and reflectors/rooms 11
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DMR Network Topology
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Oklahoma DMR Topology All 17 Oklahoma repeaters route through a Rack Space housed open source bridge Oklahoma repeaters routes through Kansas K0USY C- Bridge Since all of Oklahoma is on one bridge port, the 'PTT' channel actions are shared. One person kerchunks a channel and the whole state hears it.
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D-Star Programming
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System Fusion Programming
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DMR Programming Frequency – Oklahoma all UHF (VHF is available)
Color Codes (Like analog CTCSS) Time Slice (1 or 2) Talk Groups Local, Nationwide, Worldwide, OK-KS, Regional and more Echo - Parrot
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D-STAR HTs ID-31A ID-51A Plus Single band (70cm) 5W uSD card record
500 memories Internal GPS Repeater geo search $295 new Dual band 5W uSD card record 1300 memories Internal GPS Repeater geo search $450 new The prices shown are what you can expect to pay from a “ham friendly” dealer for a new radio. Of course used radios would be cheaper. 17
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D-STAR Mobiles Older – ID-880H Newer – ID-5100A Dual band 50W
1050 memories $420 new Dual band Touch Screen 50W DR memories Internal GPS & DPRS SD card recording Repeater geo search $600 new Touch screens are very intuitive and easy to use. 18
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DMR HTs MotoTrbo – XPR-7550 Hytera PD782G-U1 440 MHz band 4W
Color screen 1000 channels $ 700 new 440 MHz band 4W Color screen 1024 channels $ 545 new These are commercial radios. 19
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DMR HTs (cont.) Connect Systems – CS700 440 MHz band 4W 1000 memories
Chinese copy of XPR6550 $ 200 new Chinese, but decent build quality. Hytera and Connect Systems radios both work with the DMR system. 20
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DMR HTs (cont.) Tytera MD 380 Great audio 440 MHz band 4W
1000 memories $ 134 new Chinese, but decent build quality. Hytera and Connect Systems radios both work with the DMR system. 21
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DMR HTs (cont.) Tytera MD 390 Waterproof Better Audio than MD 380
440 MHz band 4W 1000 memories $ 180 new Now just available Chinese, but decent build quality. Hytera and Connect Systems radios both work with the DMR system. 22
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DMR Mobile’s 440 MHz band 40W 1000 channels Color screen $ 600 new
MotoTrbo - XPR-5550 Hytera – MD782G-U1 440 MHz band 40W 1000 channels Color screen $ 600 new 440 MHz band 45W 1024 channels Color screen $ 530 new 23
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System Fusion HT’s Yaesu – FT-1DR Yaesu - FT-2DR (new) Dual band 5W
Automatic Mode Select 900 memories GPS & APRS $300 new Dual band 5W Automatic Mode Select 1245 memories GPS & APRS Touch screen $550 new FT-2DR is due at dealers around mid-April. FT-991 $1650 HF cm 24
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System Fusion Mobile Yaesu – FT-400DR Yaesu – FT-100DR (new) Dual band
Automatic Mode Select 1000 memories GPS & APRS Color Touch screen $600 new Dual band 50W Automatic Mode Select 1000 memories GPS & APRS $400 new FTM 400 $100 rebate expires 9/30/2015 25
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Base Stations ICOM – IC-7100 Yaesu – FT-991 HF + 6M – 100W
2M - 50W + 70 cm - 35W 1600 memories GPS Touch screen $1,100 new HF + 6M – 100W 2 & 70 cm – 50W Color TFT display Automatic antenna tuner Automatic Mode Select 1000 memories GPS & APRS $1,600 new 26
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Other Digital Voice Suppliers
DV Dongle Thumb DV Internet Labs D-STAR on your PC $200 new Northwest Digital Radio D-STAR on your PC Uses AMBE 3000 Other modes? $120 new These connect to any PC with a USB 2.0 port. 27
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Other Digital Voice Devices
DV Access Point DV Mega Internet Labs Hotspot repeater Single band 2M $240 new 70 cm $260 new Guus van Dooren PE1PLM Hotspot repeater Dual band $180 new To use the DV Mega on both bands requires an Arduino board. 28
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Not near a D-STAR Repeater? Make your own – with this…
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Or this… This is at our booth. 30
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Or This... This is at our booth.
DV4mini for D-Star, DMR, Fusion, APCO25, DPMR and other digital modes which are based on GMSK, 2FSK or 4FSK. $145, including antenna 31
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Raspberry Pi G4KLX GUI 32
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D-RATS Has , chat, file transfer capabilities via internet or D-STAR radio. Desirable for EMMCOM – send forms, lists, msgs, pics. 33
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Oklahoma System Fusion
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Oklahoma DMR Locations
15 DV repeaters shown, 12 are part of our group 35
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Oklahoma D-Star Repeaters
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For More Information w5nor.org/information - This is our web site. - for Raspberry Pi enthusiasts - Web site for our area DMR repeaters & code plugs. v7.pdf - Talk given by David Ranch KI6ZHD at 2015 Bay-Net meeting. arvideonews.com/hrn/ - Ham Radio Now – watch episodes 161 & 195 – John Hays K7VE Maryland-dstar has excellent info for setting up a hot spot. We also have Ken’s image. 37
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