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IMDS Supplier Group Any other business CLEPA IMDS supplier group 05 November 2009
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Automotive Divisions Environmental Management in Product Development Niels Warburg 2 / TGU / Druckdatum © Continental AG IMDS Advisory Group (I) Tasks * Consideration of supplier interests in IMDS * Negotiation with IMDS Steering Committee (e.g. on use conditions, checks, application codes,...) * Participation in (some) IMDS Steering Committee meetings What we do * Approx. monthly meetings (phone conferences) to discuss latest issues * Define common standpoints of suppliers and communicate to SC "speak with one voice" * Coordinate actions with AIAG and JAPIA What we reached * Consideration of suppliers interests in e.g. - Use conditions - Recommendation001 -..... * We established good contact with SC "our voice is heard" IMDS Advisory Group is the mouthpiece of the CLEPA IMDS Suppliers Group Volunteers to participate in the work are always welcome
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Automotive Divisions Environmental Management in Product Development Niels Warburg 3 / TGU / Druckdatum © Continental AG IMDS Advisory Group (II) Members of Advisory Group Louis-Sylvain AyralCLEPARuth ZschiescheBASFKate EverittGKN Rupert-Walter BaurZFMarco BuczilowskiFaureciaHelmut Bunke-LudeValeo Peter Flanker DensoThomas HagedornHellaDaniel HeppWoco Rainer KurzknabeDupontAlfred PristlMann&HummelStephan SchöneFaurecia Michael J. SmithDelphiThomas StierDelphiFred TwardonAl-Lighting Niels WarburgContinentalRainer WeberHenkelPeter WeidingerBrose Sylvia AssmannBoschBibiana PrazenicovaJCIZullo LorenzoETRMA Birgit SchmidtBroseAnne-Marie LossyPierburg
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Automotive Divisions Environmental Management in Product Development Niels Warburg 4 / TGU / Druckdatum © Continental AG Any other business (I) Rejections by FIAT (2% tolerance issue) Information from IMDS responsible person at FIAT (Mrs. Katia Zardo) FIAT reduced their IMDS tolerance to 2%. FIAT is automatically rejecting datasheet, if any assembly or subcomponents has more than 2% deviation (driven by requirements of local authorities) Workaround (proposed by FIAT) Mrs. Zardo offered to manually accept all those datasheets, where the (sub)components exceed 2% tolerance as long as the (sub)components weight is below 100g. Please act as following in such cases: 1) submit IMDS datasheet as usual 2) next day call Mrs. Zardo and tell her the IMDS ID then she will accept it Remark: * This is an interims solution, until FIAT adapted their systems (timeline??) * It is not necessary to change the "tolerance" field in IMDS to 2% - just the calculated deviation must be <2% No "official" statement from FIAT on this issue (in spite of several request)
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Automotive Divisions Environmental Management in Product Development Niels Warburg 5 / TGU / Druckdatum © Continental AG Any other business (II) Experience exchange "Warnings" What are your experiences with the new "checks" in IMDS (https://www.mdsystem.com/html/data/why_more_material_warnings.pdf) If you feel that a specific warnings is not appropriate, please communicate it to SC or helpdesk! We asked Steering Committee to publish a clarification on how to proceed with warning, including a clear message that a warning does not necessarily mean that a rejection is necessary SC promised (several times) to do so, but did not publish it until today In discussions with AIAG we learned, that the term "warning" has a very strong meaning in the US (e.g. "Tornado warning") that's for sure one of the reasons for so many rejections on warnings "Warning" has a stronger meaning than "error" in English we proposed to SC to change the word "warning" into "hint", but could not convince them
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