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doc.: IEEE 802.11-08/1330r3 Submission November 2008 Matthew Gast, Trapeze NetworksSlide 1 TGmb Agenda, November 2008 Date: 2008-11-10 Authors:
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-08/1330r3 Submission November 2008 Matthew Gast, Trapeze NetworksSlide 2 Abstract Agenda for the TGmb meeting held in Dallas, TX, USA from November 10-14, 2008.
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-08/1330r3 Submission November 2008 Matthew Gast, Trapeze NetworksSlide 3 Agenda Call Meeting to Order Review schedule Respond to Interpretation Request Make PAR changes for approval Review issues inputs to TGmb revision
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-08/1330r3 Submission November 2008 Matthew Gast, Trapeze NetworksSlide 4 Tuesday Call Meeting to Order / Administrivia –Agenda review –attendance recording & meeting resources –Policies & procedures (including patent policy) –Approval of prior meeting minutes TGmb revision status & schedule Interpretation request Issue review & resolution
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-08/1330r3 Submission November 2008 Matthew Gast, Trapeze NetworksSlide 5 Attendance recording Attendance –11-08-0058-00-0000-opening-network-information-attendance- and-documentation-for-january-2008-session.ppt –https://murphy.events.ieee.org/imathttps://murphy.events.ieee.org/imat –Must register before logging attendance –Must log attendance during each 2 hour session Documentation –http://mentor.ieee.orghttp://mentor.ieee.org
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-08/1330r3 Submission November 2008 Matthew Gast, Trapeze NetworksSlide 6 Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform All participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants: –“Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents “Personal awareness” means that the participant “is personally aware that the holder may have a potential Essential Patent Claim,” even if the participant is not personally aware of the specific patents or patent claims –“Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of such potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents) –The above does not apply if the patent claim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2 Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged No duty to perform a patent search Slide #1
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-08/1330r3 Submission November 2008 Matthew Gast, Trapeze NetworksSlide 7 Patent Related Links All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development. Patent Policy is stated in these sources: IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylaws http://standards.ieee.org/guides/bylaws/sect6-7.html#6 IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual http://standards.ieee.org/guides/opman/sect6.html#6.3 Material about the patent policy is available at http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-material.html Slide #2 If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at patcom@ieee.org or visit http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/index.html This slide set is available at http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-08/1330r3 Submission November 2008 Matthew Gast, Trapeze NetworksSlide 8 Call for Potentially Essential Patents If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance: –Either speak up now or –Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or –Cause an LOA to be submitted Slide #3
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-08/1330r3 Submission November 2008 Matthew Gast, Trapeze NetworksSlide 9 Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. –Don ’ t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. –Don ’ t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings. –Technical considerations remain primary focus –Don ’ t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. –Don ’ t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. –Don ’ t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object. --------------------------------------------------------------- See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause 5.3.10 and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details. Slide #4
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-08/1330r3 Submission November 2008 Matthew Gast, Trapeze NetworksSlide 10 Resources – URLs Link to IEEE Disclosure of Affiliation –http://standards.ieee.org/faqs/affiliationFAQ.htmlhttp://standards.ieee.org/faqs/affiliationFAQ.html Links to IEEE Antitrust Guidelines –http://standards.ieee.org/resources/antitrust- guidelines.pdfhttp://standards.ieee.org/resources/antitrust- guidelines.pdf Link to IEEE Code of Ethics –http://www.ieee.org/web/membership/ethics/code_ethic s.html Link to IEEE Patent Policy –http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppthttp://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-08/1330r3 Submission November 2008 Matthew Gast, Trapeze NetworksSlide 11 Meeting Etiquette IEEE 802 is a world-wide professional technical organization Meetings are to be conducted in an orderly and professional manner in accordance with the policies and procedures governed by the organization. Individuals are to address the “Technical” content of the subject under consideration and refrain from making “personal” comments to or about the presenter.
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-08/1330r3 Submission November 2008 Matthew Gast, Trapeze NetworksSlide 12 Approval of prior meeting minutes September 2008 (Waikoloa, Hawai‘i): 11-08/1114r1 –https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/file/08/11-08-1114-01-000m- september-2008-interim-meeting-minutes-kona-hawai-i.dochttps://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/file/08/11-08-1114-01-000m- september-2008-interim-meeting-minutes-kona-hawai-i.doc
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-08/1330r3 Submission November 2008 Matthew Gast, Trapeze NetworksSlide 13 TGmb timeline Call for comments on 802.11-2007 closed yesterday (November 10, 2008) Future projected dates –March 2009: Initial letter ballot –November 2009: Initial sponsor ballot –March 2011: RevCom approval Plan of record on next slide for reference
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-08/1330r3 Submission November 2008 Matthew Gast, Trapeze NetworksSlide 14 TGmb Plan of Record May 2008 – Issue Call for Comment/Input July 2008 – begin process input and old Interpretation requests Acknowledge previous Task Group referrals Sept 2008 – PAR revision process started Nov 2008 – close receipt of new input Nov 2008 – WG/EC approval of PAR Revision Dec 2008 – NesCom/SASB approval PAR Revision Mar 2009 first WG Letter ballot –(includes All published Amendments as of Mar 2009) July/Sept 2009 Recirc start Sept 2009 – Form Sponsor Pool Nov 2009 – Sponsor Ballot Start –(Include all published amendments as of Nov 2009) Mar 2010 – Sponsor Recirc Nov 2010 – WG/EC Final Approval Mar 2011 – RevCom/SASB Approval
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-08/1330r3 Submission November 2008 Matthew Gast, Trapeze NetworksSlide 15 Interpretation Request #1 Request received from Johannes Berg : In 802.11-2007, section 11.7.1.2 ("Setup procedure at the AP") [for DLS] notes: "[...] Send DLS Response frame to the STA that sent the DLS Request frame with a result code of Not a STA, if the destination STA [...]“ Is this meant to say "[...] Send DLS Response frame to the STA that sent the DLS Request frame with a result code of Not QoS STA, if the destination STA [...]“ (note "Not QoS STA") Note: emphasis added
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-08/1330r3 Submission November 2008 Matthew Gast, Trapeze NetworksSlide 16 Data points for Interpretation Request Text appears on page 458 of 802.11-2007 Table 11-6 on page 458 of 802.11-2007 maps result codes for primitives into status codes –Table has codes for NOT_ALLOWED, NOT_PRESENT, and NOT_QOS_STA Table 7-23 (status codes) on pp. 94-5 of 802.11-2007 has code 50 for “The Destination STA is not a QoS STA” but does not have a status code for “not a STA”
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-08/1330r3 Submission November 2008 Matthew Gast, Trapeze NetworksSlide 17 Issue Review & Resolution Responses to initial call for comments are consolidated as 11-08/1127r4 –https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/file/08/11-08-1127-04-000m-tgmb- issues-list.xlshttps://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/file/08/11-08-1127-04-000m-tgmb- issues-list.xls After adding approved amendments (see timeline on next slide) to 802.11-2007, editor should incorporate resolutions to these initial issues
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-08/1330r3 Submission November 2008 Matthew Gast, Trapeze NetworksSlide 18 Terry L Cole (AMD) Slide 18 Amendment Ordering Amendment NumberTask GroupREVCOM Date 802.11 Amendment 1TGkJuly 2008 - Published 802.11 Amendment 2TGrJuly 2008 -- Published 802.11 Amendment 3TGySept/Dec 2008 -- Pending 802.11 Amendment 4TGwDec 2009 (was Sep 2009) 802.11 Amendment 5TGnSept 2009 (was June 2009) 802.11 Amendment 6TGzSept 2009 802.11 Amendment 7TGpDec 2009 802.11 Amendment 8 (was 9)TGvMar 2010 (was Dec 2009) 802.11 Amendment 9 (was 10)TGuMar 2010 802.11 Amendment 10 (was 8)TGsJuly 2010 (was Dec 2009) 802.11.2TGTDisbanded 802.11 Revision802.11mbMar 2011 Data as of Sept 2008 from 802.11 web –See http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/11/Reports/802.11_Timelines.htmhttp://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/11/Reports/802.11_Timelines.htm Amendment reordering is discussed by editors at each session and adjusted based on current timeline estimates
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-08/1330r3 Submission November 2008 Matthew Gast, Trapeze NetworksSlide 19 Wednesday I Approval of PAR changes – 11-08/1373r0 (Jon Rosdahl) Approval of interpretation response – 11-08/1366r0 (Matthew Gast) Approval of Comment Group 1 in issues list (11- 08/1127r5) –Security expert follow-up Issue Review & Resolution
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-08/1330r3 Submission November 2008 Matthew Gast, Trapeze NetworksSlide 20 Wednesday II Issue Review & Resolution
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-08/1330r3 Submission November 2008 Matthew Gast, Trapeze NetworksSlide 21 Thursday Approve final revision PAR text Issue review & resolution Teleconferences Review timeline Preparation for January 2009 interim meeting –# of sessions AOB Adjourn
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