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doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/1404r5 Submission 802.11aa – Robust Audio Video Transport Streaming Los Angeles, CA Opening Report Date: 2011-01-19 Authors: Nov 2010 Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation et alSlide 1
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/1404r5 SubmissionSlide 2 Abstract This submission summarizes TGaa goals and agenda for the IEEE 802.11 Los Angeles, CA meeting (Jan 2011) Nov 2010 Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation et alSlide 2
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/1404r5 Submission Goals for the Los Angeles Meeting: Resolve LB170 comments and approve corresponding resolutions Start recirculation letter ballot with Draft 3.0 Plan for joint meeting with 802.1AVB in March 2011 Snapshot Nov 2010 Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation et alSlide 3
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/1404r5 SubmissionSlide 4 Opening Report Nov 2010 Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation et alSlide 4
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/1404r5 SubmissionSlide 5 Attendance Recording - 802.11 Sign-in at http://newton.events.ieee.orghttp://newton.events.ieee.org –“newton” is a local server, not reachable via a VPN –“newton” is active only during 802.11 sessions First “sign in” to provide contact information –Only name and affiliation may be posted publicly, as per IEEE rules –No other personal information will be publicly available Second, log attendance Sign In Nov 2010 Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation et alSlide 5
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/1404r5 Submission As a Courtesy To Others … PLEASE switch your Mobile Phones OFF, or to VIBRATE Alert, remember to MUTE your PC also please ! "Our thanks to all those people who now use Headsets !” The use of Audio and / or Video recording of any 802.11 meeting is Specifically Prohibited as per the 802.11 WG Policies and Procedures. This is mandated by the IEEE- SASB in the OpManual - 5.3.3.5. Still photography is only permitted by a public request and permission of the meeting membership via the WG Chair, and is not for commercial purposes, also mandated by IEEE-SASB in the OpManual - 5.3.3.4. July 2010 Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation et alSlide 6
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/1404r5 SubmissionSlide 7 802.11aa – Jan 2011 Policies and Procedures, Attendance reminder: http://newton.events.ieee.org/ **IEEE Patent Policy http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppthttp://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt ***Affiliation FAQ - http://standards.ieee.org/faqs/affiliationFAQ.htmlhttp://standards.ieee.org/faqs/affiliationFAQ.html Anti-Trust FAQ - http://standards.ieee.org/resources/antitrust- guidelines.pdfhttp://standards.ieee.org/resources/antitrust- guidelines.pdf Ethics - http://www.ieee.org/portal/cms_docs/about/CoE_poster.pdfhttp://www.ieee.org/portal/cms_docs/about/CoE_poster.pdf IEEE 802.11 Policies and Procedures - http://www.ieee802.org/11/DocFiles/07/11-07-0360-04-0000-802-11- policies-and-proceedures.htm http://www.ieee802.org/11/DocFiles/07/11-07-0360-04-0000-802-11- policies-and-proceedures.htm IEEE 802 Policies and Procedures - http://www.ieee802.org/PNP/2008- 11/LMSC_OM_approved_081114.pdfhttp://www.ieee802.org/PNP/2008- 11/LMSC_OM_approved_081114.pdf ** Read slide deck *** Note especially items #7 & #11 July 2010 Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation et alSlide 7
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/1404r5 Submission Technical Presentations Slide 8 July 2010 Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation et alSlide 8 Document numberTitleAuthor(s) 1 11/0065r3, 10/1424r10 MRG for MeshIvan Pustogarov 2 11/0019r0, 11/0020r1 Synchronization of HCCA APs in OBSS Graham Smith 310/1068r0 AP Protected TXOP Negotiation Alex Ashley, Dan Harkins 410/1445r2Splitting GCR from DMSAlex Ashley 511/0158r0Proposed resolution for CID #1307Alex Ashley 611/0161r1GCR Sequence NumbersAlex Ashley 711/0058r0 Proposed Text for Channel Selection Procedure Graham Smith and Alex Ashley 811/0165r0 Context and Straw poll for CID #1170 Ganesh Venkatesan 911/0168Joint Meeting PreparationGanesh Venkatesan
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/1404r5 Submission TGaa Agenda Nov 2010 Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation et alSlide 9 Monday AM2 – Park –Administrivia –Agenda for the week (plan and review) –Should 3.0 rebase to mb? –CID #1021 –Motions to approve non-contentious comment resolutions –LB170 Comment Resolutions – open comments Monday Eve – Park –Administrivia –LB170 Open GCRComment – Split DMS/GCR –LB170 Open Interworking Comments (3) –Co-ordination with TGac (DEI) Thursday AM1 – –Administrivia –Open OBSS Comment #1169 –Group Addressed Delivery Service –Open SCS comment #1170 –Motion for sequence numbers (motion-21) –Motion 11/158r0 Wednesday AM1 – Directors-I –Administrivia –Split DMS/GCR –LB170 Open OBSS Comments (5) –LB170 Open SCS Comments (8) –GCR for Mesh Thursday AM2 – –Administrivia –Comments that do not have a motion (14/18) –Preparation for the joint meeting with 802.1AVB –Teleconference Schedule –Motions –Timeline Review and Update –Review Closing Report –Adjourn Wednesday PM2 – Directors-I –Administrivia –Room Request for Singapore meeting –Revisit Interworking Comments –Open OBSS Comments (2) –Open SCS Comments (1) –GCR for Mesh Tuesday PM1 – Directors-I –Administrivia –Motions to approve comment resolutions –LB170 Open Miscellaneous Comments (General) (1)
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/1404r5 Submission LB170 Comment Snapshot (as of 1/16/2011) Nov 2010 Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation et alSlide 10 Open/Needs Discussion AcceptPrincipleDeclinedUnassignedTotal Editor 11222 17 GCR 1458123150 General 11 Interworking 3149329 OBSS 428442298 SCS 81012232 Total 1810914852 327 Remaining % 5.504587
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/1404r5 Submission LB170 Comment Snapshot (close of AM1 1/19/2011 ) Nov 2010 Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation et alSlide 11 Comment Group Open/Needs Discussion AcceptPrincipleDeclined Total Approved_Editor123217 Approved_GCR458122148 Approved_General11 Approved_Interworking1411429 Approved_OBSS28472095 Approved_SCS1118231 GCR22 OBSS33 SCS11 Total611016051327 Remaining % 1.834862
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/1404r5 SubmissionSlide 12 Joint meeting with 802.1AVB in March 2011 How to deal with STA-Bridge issue? Specific details on 802.11k/v traffic stream statistic reports Overview of 802.11aa MRG (now known as GCR) MaxRes for 802.11 Nov 2010 Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation et alSlide 12
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/1404r5 SubmissionSlide 13 Motion-1 Move to instruct the TGaa Technical Editor to renumber the clauses in 802.11aa D2.01 to use the latest TGmb clause numbering, excluding clauses added by 11v and 11u. Moved: Alex Ashley Second: Graham Smith Motion passes unanimously. Nov 2010 Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation et alSlide 13
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/1404r5 SubmissionSlide 14 Motion-2 Move to approve the editor sheet in document 10/1447r1 excluding CID #1193 and instruct the TGaa Technical Editor to incorporate the corresponding changes in the next draft of P802.11aa. Moved: Alex Ashley Second: Graham Smith Y/N/A 8/0/5 Motion Passes. Nov 2010 Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation et alSlide 14
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/1404r5 SubmissionSlide 15 Straw Poll Should we consider co-operating OBSS APs to establish a AP Peer key between them in order to protect action frames exchanged between them? Y 8 N 0 A 8 Nov 2010 Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation et alSlide 15
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/1404r5 SubmissionSlide 16 Straw Poll Which of the following approaches do you prefer to amend TGaa in order to support “GCR for Mesh”? (a)Defined Groupcast transmitter and Groupcast receiver and use them in the rest of the text? (1) (b)Selectively replace AP with “AP or transmitting mesh STA” and non-AP STA with “non-AP STA or receiving mesh STA”, where appropriate? (2) (c) Undecided (6) Nov 2010 Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation et alSlide 16
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/1404r5 SubmissionSlide 17 Motion-3 Move to approve the following teleconference schedule: Weekly Monday 1130-1230 Hrs ET Feb 14, 21, 28; Mar 07, 2011 Approved with unanimous consent. Nov 2010 Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation et alSlide 17
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/1404r5 SubmissionSlide 18 Minutes review Dallas Meeting minutes (10/1333r0) Teleconference Minutes (11/0006r2) Nov 2010 Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation et alSlide 18
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/1404r5 SubmissionSlide 19 Motion-4 Move to approve TGaa Dallas Meeting minutes – 10/1333r0. Approved with unanimous consent. Nov 2010 Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation et alSlide 19
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/1404r5 SubmissionSlide 20 Motion-5 Move to approve Nov 2010 - Jan, 2011 Teleconference minutes (document 11/0006r2). Approved with unanimous consent. Nov 2010 Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation et alSlide 20
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/1404r5 SubmissionSlide 21 Motion-6 Move to approve all comments in the spreadsheet labeled ‘SCS’ in document 10/1441r5 with a resolution status set to ‘D’, ‘A’ or ‘P’; CID #1230 set to Accept in Principle and instruct the TGaa editor to incorporate the corresponding changes to the next draft Moved: Alex Ashley Second: Graham Smith Motion Passes 5/0/3 Nov 2010 Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation et alSlide 21
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/1404r5 SubmissionSlide 22 Motion-7 Move to approve all comment resolutions in the spreadsheet labeled ‘OBSS’ in document 10/1441r5 with a resolution status set to ‘D’, ‘A’ or ‘P’ and change ‘aa??’ in the resolution to CID #1175 with the appropriate value while applying the resolution, except the following CIDs: 1169, 1159, 1072, 1254 1249 and 1251, and instruct the TGaa editor to incorporate the corresponding changes to the next draft Moved: Alex Ashley Second: Graham Smith Motion Passes 4/0/3 Nov 2010 Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation et alSlide 22
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/1404r5 SubmissionSlide 23 Motion-8 Move to approve all comment resolutions in the spreadsheet labeled ‘Interworking’ in document 10/1441r6 and instruct the TGaa editor to incorporate the corresponding changes to the next draft Moved: Ganesh Venkatesan Second: Graham Smith Motion Passes 5/0/3 Nov 2010 Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation et alSlide 23
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/1404r5 SubmissionSlide 24 Motion-9 Move to approve all comment resolutions in the spreadsheet labeled ‘General’ in document 10/1441r6 and instruct the TGaa editor to incorporate the corresponding changes to the next draft Moved: Graham Smith Second: Alex Ashley Motion Passes 5/0/3 Nov 2010 Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation et alSlide 24
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/1404r5 SubmissionSlide 25 Motion-10 Move to approve all comments in the spreadsheet labeled ‘GCR’ in document 10/1441r6 with the exception of CID #1216 and #1316, and instruct the TGaa editor to incorporate the corresponding changes to the next draft Moved: Alex Ashley Second: Graham Smith Motion Passes 5/0/3 Nov 2010 Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation et alSlide 25
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/1404r5 SubmissionSlide 26 Straw Poll Do you prefer splitting DMS and GCR as separate mechanisms for reliable groupcast in TGaa? Y: 1 N: 5 Abstain: 6 Nov 2010 Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation et alSlide 26
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/1404r5 SubmissionSlide 27 Motion-11 Move to Accept CID #1316 in principle –Retain GCR as a single feature that includes DMS and GCR –Introduce a generic name that encompasses DMS and GCR techniques to accomplish reliable multicast Moved: Brian Hart Second: Graham Smith Motion Passes 5/0/6 Nov 2010 Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation et alSlide 27
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/1404r5 SubmissionSlide 28 Motion-12 Move to adopt document 11/0020r1 as resolution to CID #1159, CID #1072 and CID #1254 and instruct the TGaa Technical Editor to incorporate the corresponding changes in the next draft. Moved: Graham Smith Second: Alexander Safonov Motion Passes 6/0/2 Nov 2010 Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation et alSlide 28
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/1404r5 SubmissionSlide 29 Motion-13 Move to adopt document 11/0058r0 as resolution to CID #1249 and CID #1251 and instruct the TGaa Technical Editor to incorporate the corresponding changes in the next draft. Moved: Graham Smith Second: Alexander Safonov Motion Passes 7/0/0 Nov 2010 Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation et alSlide 29
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/1404r5 SubmissionSlide 30 Motion-14 Move to adopt resolutions to comments CID #1262, CID #1135 and CID #1190 in document 10/1441r9 and instruct the TGaa Technical Editor to incorporate the resolutions in the next draft Moved: David Hunter Second: Alex Ashley Result: 7/0/0 Motion Passes Nov 2010 Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation et alSlide 30
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/1404r5 SubmissionSlide 31 Motion-15 Move to adopt resolutions to comments CID #1307 and CID #1189 in document 10/1441r7 and instruct the TGaa Technical Editor to incorporate the resolutions in the next draft Moved: Alex Ashley Second: Graham Smith Result: 7/0/4 Motion passes. Nov 2010 Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation et alSlide 31
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/1404r5 SubmissionSlide 32 Motion-16 – covered by Motion-15 Move to approve document 11/0158r1 and instruct the TGaa Technical Editor to incorporate the resolutions in the next draft Moved: Second: Result: Nov 2010 Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation et alSlide 32
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/1404r5 SubmissionSlide 33 Motion-17 Move to approve document 10/1424r10 and instruct the TGaa Technical Editor to incorporate the text changes into the next draft Moved: Ivan Pustogarov (IITP RAS) Second: Alexander Safonov Result: 8/0/2 Motion Passes Nov 2010 Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation et alSlide 33
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/1404r5 SubmissionSlide 34 Motion-18 Move to approve resolutions to CID #1010, CID#1011, CID #1048, CID #1167, CID #1070 and CID #1161 in document 10/1441r9 and instruct the TGaa Technical Editor to incorporate the corresponding changes into the next draft Moved: Graham Smith Second: David Hunter Result: 7/0/0 Motion Passes Nov 2010 Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation et alSlide 34
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/1404r5 SubmissionSlide 35 Motion-21 Move to approve document 11/0161r1 with the change to the last paragraph in page-2 “When the AP updates the retransmission policy, the AP should shall set the Last Sequence Control field …” (delete the word should and replace it with shall) and instruct the TGaa Technical Editor to incorporate the text changes in the next draft Moved: Alex Ashley Second: Graham Smith Result: 9/0/2 Motion Passes Nov 2010 Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation et alSlide 35
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/1404r5 SubmissionSlide 36 Motion-19 Move to approve document 10/1068r1 (as resolution to CID #1169 and CID#1021) with the following additions: Add the PICS entries “AVT6.4 Protected QLoad Report AVT6:O “AVT7.2 Protected HCCA TXOP negotiation AVT7:O and instruct the TGaa Technical Editor to incorporate the changes into the next draft Moved: Dan Harkins Second: Alex Ashley Result: 7/0/2 Motion Passes Nov 2010 Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation et alSlide 36
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/1404r5 SubmissionSlide 37 Straw Poll Which of the following generic names do you prefer? 1.Group Addressed Transmission Service x x x 2.Group Addressed Distribution Service x x x x x x 3.Extended Multicast Service x x x x Nov 2010 Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation et alSlide 37
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/1404r5 SubmissionSlide 38 Motion-20 Move to instruct the TGaa Technical Editor to incorporate the following in the next draft: Change “11.22.15 Directed Multicast Service and Groupcast with Retries DMS Procedure” to “11.22.15 Group Addressed Transmission Service” Add the following description to 11.22.15: The Group Addressed Transmission Service provides delivery of group addressed frames and comprises the two services, DMS and GCR. Add the following definition to clause 2: Group Addressed Transmission Service: A mechanism comprising directed multicast service and groupcast with retries, for delivery of group addressed frames. Moved: David Hunter Seconded: Alex Ashley Result: 10/0/1 Motion Passes Nov 2010 Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation et alSlide 38
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/1404r5 SubmissionSlide 39 Motion-22 Having approved comment resolutions for all of the comments received from LB170 on P802.11aa D2.0 as contained in document 10/1441r9, Instruct the editor to prepare Draft3.0 incorporating these resolutions and, Approve a 15-day Working Group Recirculation Ballot asking the question “Should P802.11aa D3.0 be forwarded to Sponsor Ballot?” Moved: Graham Smith Seconded: David Hunter Result: 7/0/0 Motion Passes. Nov 2010 Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation et alSlide 39
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/1404r5 SubmissionSlide 40 Motion-23 Move to decline all comments listed in document 10/1441r9 that have a blank resolution status with the resolution of “The TG requires another recirculation ballot to gain feedback from the WG on this topic.” Mover: David Hunter Seconder: Alex Ashley Result: Passes with unanimous consent. Nov 2010 Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation et alSlide 40
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/1404r5 SubmissionSlide 41 March 2011 meeting room request Draft 3.0 Recirculation Comment Resolution Request 7 sessions at least one that does not conflict with TGac, one with FIA, one with SmartGrid and one with TGae Nov 2010 Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation et alSlide 41
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doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/1404r5 SubmissionSlide 42 Timeline Discussion 1.First Recirculation -- Sep 10, 2010 –Plan for 3-4 recirculations 2.Form Sponsor pool – Mar 2011 3.MEC Done – Aug 2011 4.Start Sponsor Ballot – Sep 2011 5.First Sponsor Recirc – Nov 2011 6.Sponsor Ballot done (final WG approval) – Mar 2012 7.Final or conditional 802 EC approval – Mar 2012 8.RevCom/SA approval -- June 2012 (need to line up with appropriate RevCom/SA meeting dates) Sep 2010 Ganesh Venkatesan, Intel Corporation et alSlide 42
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