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Fits, faints and Funny turns GP Refresher week
Dr Penny Mancais Paediatric Consultant Lead for Epilepsy
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Learning objectives Who and when do I refer?
What investigations might I do? How do I refer? What is my role as a GP Where can I go for further information.
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Parental anxiety, pressure for a diagnosis, Epilepsy is a very emotive area,
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May be epilepsy but more likely sncope or a non epileptic episode.
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Who do I refer? Before, during, after, what happens after the event, neurological ,cardiac and behaviour/development examination adds very little to making a diagnosis ( consider BP and examine back of eyes)
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What parts of the history would reassure me?
Commonest differential is syncope Pallor, sweaty, feels hot, change of position, can twitch/stiffen but short lived with quick recovery. ?Epileptic: Sudden fall, often no warning, blank stare, headache, incontinence of urine, drowsy, longer
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What investigations might I do as a GP?
No need for any other tests
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Who do I refer
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How to refer in West Dorset
Patch Consultant ( 4-6 week) On call Consultant ( babies, unwell, high level of concern) Rapid access Clinic ( normal with in 2 weeks) If have a diagnosis of Epilepsy already refer to Epilepsy Clinic. Some areas have specific first seizure clincs and may be seen first of al by a neurolgist.
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On going role for GP Offer first Aid management, safety advice, diary
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What happens at the hospital appt
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Gps please don’t request 1:100 have abnormalities not signifcant
Gps please don’t request 1:100 have abnormalities not signifcant. Does not exclude. Last national audit we do about 100 per year for first seizure
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Where can I go for further information
Epilepsy Action Young Epilepsy. Phone App. ILAE : good for professionals STARS. Blackout check list NICE and SIGN National audit of Epilepsy death and SUDEP DVLA
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