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Sándor Lau, Chief Inspiration Officer NotedFinancial.com
Intoxicating Assets: How Defaulted Second Mortgages Helped Me Survive my Landlording Allergy and Invest in Real Estate for the Price of a Used Car Sándor Lau, Chief Inspiration Officer NotedFinancial.com
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Confessions of a Recovering Landlord
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Bamboo Retreat Eugene, OR
Duplex: Rent $700/mo/unit Mortgage, HOA, mgmt. $1,400/mo
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Bedlam and Millstone Kansas City, MO
Apartments 29 units: Rent $15,000/mo Mortgage $3,000/mo Repairs, evictions, vacancy, mgmt. $15,000/mo
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Employed, 28% Homeless Day Job $1,500/mo to Bedlam & Millstone
$1,400/mo to Bamboo Retreat Not enough for food, car, bills
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Be the Bank: Real Estate Without Tenants
Landlord>Tenant Bank>Landlord
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My First Paper Source 2013
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The Formula: Invest in discounted non-performing second mortgages behind performing first mortgages on residential property.
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Make Your Money When You Buy
Discounted real estate: exceptional Discounted notes: standard 2nds: most discounted
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Performing first mortgage means borrowers likely have: Capacity Will
Predict the Future: Performing first mortgage means borrowers likely have: Capacity Will
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Online Underwriting: Credit Report
Title report Transunion TLO Netronline.com for tax assessor Borrower social media
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Case Study: Suwanee River
Atlanta exurbs, Suwannee, GA Borrowers paid first mortgage like clockwork Dark horse, very little information available We bid appropriate to risk
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Suwanee River: Numbers
Value: $204,000 1st Mortgage: $178,000 ($26k equity>1st) 2nd Mortgage: $30,000 unpaid principal balance Our Cost: $5,000 price of used car (17% of UPB, 2.5% of home value, like option or down payment) Workout: cease & desist letter. Paying $9k $3k down then $170/mo. Return: ???%. Good enough. Intoxicating asset. Heart on fire. RECOVERING LL. Win-win. Bank. Homeowner. Investor. Economy. Example photo only, not borrower’s house
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Be the Bank, Not the Landlord
No tenants, no toilets, no termites. Never visit properties No microwave out window…
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Think Like an Econ Mediocracy says: Think rationally:
Normal and average is good and right Uncommon and unusual is bad and wrong (ask a guy with a funny name) Do you want to be normal and average? Think rationally: Mediocracy says risk=reward Note investing gives asymmetric risk Leverage cuts both ways, but not equally
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Emotional Equity > Financial Equity
Motivation: Most human decisions based on emotion We deal with humans not econs House=asset Home=where your kids and pets live
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Case Study: Old Macdonald
1 acre lot with house in Fontana, CA Suburban farm with pigs and chickens Paying first mortgage like clockwork Way underwater on first mortgage Hispanic borrower, limited English
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Old MacDonald: Numbers
Example photo only, not borrower’s house Value: $270,000 1st Mortgage: $320,000 ($50k underwater on first) 2nd Mortgage: $83,000 unpaid principal balance (all underwater) Our Cost: $12,000 price of used car (15% of UPB, 4.4% of home value) Workout: Payment plan. Resumed scheduled $777/mo. Forgave $80k back interest. Return: approx. 77%. Emotional Equity>Financial Equity. Not every note works out like this. Not every one has to.
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2nds pull the strings 2nds can FORECLOSE like 1sts
Seconds Come First 2nds pull the strings 2nds can FORECLOSE like 1sts
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Firsts Come Second 1st can foreclose—if we let them.
We can own property subject to 1st loan. Not in our name, not on our credit. Deed of Trust authorization
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Seconds Fill the Sandwich
Time is on 2nd’s side Not on landlord’s side Not on 1st mortgage’s side Appreciation + principal pay- down benefit 2nd most. Value 2nd loan 1st loan
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Pray for BK— Bankruptcy
Bankruptcy gives relief from debt, not entitlement to free house. We are secured creditors. Chapter 7: liquidation Chapter 13: restructuring Predict future at:
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Predict Future w/BK
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Chapter 13 Bankruptcy Lien stripping if 2nd unsecured.
Payments through trustee. Payment plan 3-5 years. Only 1/3 complete plan. No completion=no strip.
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Case Study: Speed Racer
Bradenton, SW FL: Family in house since 1981 Husband was once race car driver Yard full of boats and cars Refused all communication, FL expensive judicial FC To make this more real, I’m going through case studies for most of the 12 keys. They all have nicknames. 1, because it’s very difficult to memorize loan numbers and 2, because we want to respect our borrowers and their privacy. These are human beings just like all of us.
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Speed Racer Numbers: Value: $160,000
1st Mortgage: $150,000 ($10k equity>1st) 2nd Mortgage: $104,000 (mostly underwater) Our Cost: $11,000, price of used car (11% of UPB, 7% of value) WORKOUT: Borrowers attempted to strip in BK13. Court denied. We agreed to reduce principal to $35k, payments $260/mo, 6.5% int. 20 years. Approx. $5k lawyer bills foreclosure and bankruptcy. Return: $3,120/yr/$16,000=20% return Example photo only, not borrower’s house Beware curse of knowledge.
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Chapter 7 Bankruptcy Wipes out unsecured debts, leaving more to pay the mortgage. No lien stripping, no cram downs. Bankruptcy relieves personal debt obligation, does not give free house.
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Example photo only, not borrower’s house
Case Study: The Temple BORROWER Home bought 2008 Farmington, UT Discharged BK7 2011 Paid first mortgage like clockwork First mortgage hard to track down, not on credit report No replies to foreclosure correspondence, can’t call them Borrowers called a week before the auction: from Japan Example photo only, not borrower’s house
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The Temple Numbers Value: $630,000 1st Mortgage: $375,000
2nd Mortgage: $100,000 Equity above 1st: $255,000 SCHL cost: $40,000 nice used car (40% of UPB, 6% of home value) Foreclosure delayed due to issues with title documents Borrowers wanted to do deed in lieu, takes months Foreclosed, full payoff $118,000 in two years, neighbor bought at auction
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Leverage Your Time Are you getting any younger?
What do you fear? What is your purpose? What’s highest & best use of your time? Outsource (TapeTechs.com, Fiverr.com, Guru.com) Employees, interns
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Leverage your Resources
Leverage capital: credit cards not enough Bank financing: difficult to underwrite Passive investors provide capital Private offerings, limited partnerships, joint ventures Collateral assignments
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Collateral Assignment Lending
Our note is collateral for private lender Similar to private lending on real estate In event of default, lender steps into our shoes 9% mailbox money competitive for recovering landlords and stock market refugees
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Where to Buy Notes? Build relationships of trust Vet sellers (Pacer)
Exchanges show only a fraction of inventory Demonstrate your reliability
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Resources: BOOKS: Intoxicating Assets by Sándor Lau (coming never)
Paper Profits by Joshua N. Andrews Performance Anxiety by Gordon Moss Turning Distress into Success by Fuquan Bilal The Art of Investing in Distressed Second Mortgages by Sherman Arnowitz Memorize the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act YouTube.com/SandorLau
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Do Well by Doing Good Compassion is good business
1 completed foreclosure 200 notes My emotional equity
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The Future Appreciation slowing down 10 years since the last recession
Current housing market not driven by free-flowing credit Good bad notes hard to find: I’m still buying, especially OR, WA, CA Great deals any market (since 1754 BC)
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Sándor Lau, Chief Inspiration Officer sandor@notedfinancial.com
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