1. FIFTH YEAR SUBJECT CHOICE for TY students
CBC MONKSTOWN
FIFTH YEAR SUBJECT CHOICE for TY students
Leaving Certificate
2019
Monday 13th March 2017

2. Procedure for Subject Choice
Individual student appointment with Ms.O’Connor to discuss option, return CAT4 results
Own research using Qualifax and Careers Portal, talking to teachers, parents etc
Completion of Options Form:
Students indicate their preferences 1-5
Applied Maths and RE are offered as an EIGTH or extra subject – therefore students still pick 3 options from the list
Forms to be handed in the Monday 24th April after Easter break, in order of receipt

3. Supports with subject choice process
Ms. O’Connor meets students 1-1
Teachers explain to students how subject will develop over the LC course
CAT4 results – strengths and difficulties, learning preferences

4. CBC Subjects for LC 4 CORE subjects 3 OPTION subjects - choices Irish
English
Maths
Third language
CBC requires that ALL students unless exempt will sit a third language for their Leaving Certificate
3 OPTION subjects - choices

5. Criteria for Choosing Subjects
INTERESTED IN THE SUBJECTS
BEST AT THESE SUBJECTS – POINTS
COLLEGE/COURSE/POINTS REQUIREMENTS

6. Interest in Subjects Careers Portal – subject information
GENUINELY INTERESTED IN THESE SUBJECTS
READ THE CONTENT OF THE LEAVING CERT SYLLABUS FOR THESE SUBJECTS
Careers Portal – subject information
SPEAK WITH THE SUBJECT TEACHERS
Choices should not be based on what friends are doing

7. 2. Best at These Subjects NECESSARY TO MAXIMISE POINTS
STUDENTS SHOULD BE AWARE OF THIS THEMSELVES
CHECK GRADES IN THESE SUBJECTS FROM JC RESULTS
ASK TEACHERS OPINIONS IF NECESSARY
TALK TO PARENTS/OLDER SIBLINGS

8. 2a.Taking up a ‘new’ subject in Fifth Year
POSSIBLE NEW SUBJECTS
Business
Economics
Applied Maths
Home Economics (Social & Scientific)
Art and Music (approriate standard/ability required)
Biology – not an ‘easy’ subject

9. 2b. Junior Cert / Leaving Cert LINK-UPS
Business Studies…………………
Science………………………………
Art…………………………………….
French/German……..
Music………………………
Home Economics………………..
TG…………………………………….
LEAVING CERT
Accounting/Economics/ Business
Chemistry/Physics/Biology
Art (now includes History of Art, 37.5%)
French/German (Oral/Aural c. 50%)
Music (50% practical content)
Home Economics
DCG

10. 2c. Subjects that have a project or practical component
DESIGN & COMMUNICATION GRAPHICS (40%)
ART (62.5%) History of Art (37.5%)
GEOGRAPHY (20%)
HOME ECONOMICS (20%)
MUSIC (50%)
HISTORY (20%)
RELIGION (20%)
LANGUAGES (LISTENING AND ORAL – UP TO 50%)

11. 3. Requirements 3 TYPES OF REQUIREMENTS 1. COLLEGE requirements
2. FACULTY OR COURSE requirements
3. POINTS

12. National Framework of Qualifications

13. Changes to the Leaving Certificate grading system for 2017
Higher Level Grade % Ordinary Level Grade % H1 ( ) O1 (90-100) H2 (80 < 90) O2 (80 < 90) H3 (70 < 80) O3 (70 < 80) H4 (60 < 70) O4 (60 < 70) H5 (50 < 60) O5 (50 < 60) H6 (40 < 50) O6 (40 < 50) H7 (30 < 40) now a pass O7 (30 < 40) fail H8 (0 < 30) fail O8 (0 < 30) fail Reducing the number of grade bands from 14 to 8

14. 1. College/Career Requirements
Each college’s entry requirements vary
Entry requirements depend on level of the course, e.g. Level 6/7 or 8
Check college requirements in relation to specific courses

15. 1. College Requirements
Honours Degree (Level 8) courses require 6 subjects, including a minimum of 2 or 3 at H5
Varying requirements e.g.
UCD - 6 Subjects including 2 H5s & minimum of 4 H7s/O6s (i.e. a pass) including English, Irish and a Language (with the exception of Engineering, Science and Social Science)
TCD - 6 Subjects including 3 H5s & minimum of 3 H7s/O6s (i.e. a pass) including passes in English, Maths and a Language
Ordinary Degree (Level 7) / Higher Certificate (Level 6)
Most Universities don’t offer Level 7/6 courses
There are varying requirements e.g.
IADT - 5 subjects (H7/O6) including English
DIT - 5 subjects (H7/O6) including Maths and
English or Irish

16. 2. Course Requirements
There may be a particular course requirement for many courses at college.
The subjects mainly concerned are the Languages and the Sciences and Maths grades/levels
There may also be a requirement to achieve a certain grade and level in certain subjects for many courses at college, e.g. OB3/HD3 in LC Maths for Sports and exercise management, UCD

17. Third language Essential for (unless exempt):
Entry into N.U.I. Universities, e.g. UCD, UCC, Maynooth, UCG
Exceptions:
Nursing
Engineering, Science, Social Science & Ag Science in UCD
DIT - Various Courses in
Tourism, Hotel, Leisure, Business with Languages and Culinary Arts Courses
Cadetships with the Defence Forces
Gardaí – English/Irish AND a third language

18. Laboratory Science (Chemistry, Biology, Physics)
Essential for:
*Most Level 8 courses in Science, Engineering, Medical, Para-Medical and some Technical Courses in Universities and the DIT
Product Design (NCAD)
*UCD Science will accept Geography and Applied Maths if a candidate has no lab science
Useful for:
Level 7/ Level 6 Courses in Science and Engineering
Some Apprenticeships

19. Science IS also required for
Forestry and Horticulture (UCD)
Human Nutrition (UCD)
Nursing and Dental Nursing
Occupational Therapy
Speech Therapy (or Hons Maths/Applied Maths)
Optometry (DIT)
Human Nutrition and Dietetics (DIT)
Environmental Health (DCU)
Equine Science (UL)
PE Teacher Training (DCU)
Earth Sciences (TCD)
Clinical Measurement (DIT)

20. Chemistry Chemistry is essential for: Veterinary Medicine (UCD)
Dentistry (UCC)
Medicine (5 Year Courses in UCD and UCC)
Human Nutrition and Dietetics (DIT/TCD)
Pharmacy (TCD and RCSI)

21. Two Science Subjects However 2H5s (tbc) Dentistry, Medicine (UCC)
Medicine, Dentistry, Physiotherapy, Human Genetics, Nanoscience (TCD)
*Science, Pharmacy, Medicinal Chemistry, Earth Sciences (TCD)
However
*Hons Maths/App Maths = 1 Science for
Human Genetics, Physiotherapy and Nanoscience (TCD)
*Hons Maths/App Maths or Hons Geog = 1 Science for
Science, Pharmacy, Medicinal Chemistry,Earth Sciences (TCD)

22. Science is NOT required for
Social Science
Arts – up to thirty subjects in this area
Law
Business
Primary Teaching
Many Computer Science Degree Courses
Science in UCD if student has Geography/Applied Maths

23. Foundation Maths
Foundation Maths WILL fulfil the Maths requirement for ENTRY to Universities and Institutes of Technology
But WILL NOT satisfy SPECIFIC course requirements, e.g. Sport & Exercise Management, UCD, O3/H7 Maths, (TBC)

24. Honours Maths Honours Maths is required for:
Honours Engineering Degree Courses
Actuarial Studies (UCD & DCU)
Mathematical Sciences
Statistics – BA Joint Hons (UCD)
Computer Science (TCD & UCD)
Management Science & Information Systems Studies (TCD)
Economics and Finance (UCD)
Business Analytics (UCD)

25. Honours Maths – Bonus Points
Bonus points for Honours Maths was introduced for 2012 entry to college
Students will be awarded an extra 25 points for all awards from H1 to H6
H7 will NOT be eligible for bonus points
The extra 25 points will be awarded before total points are calculated from the best six results for the student
For example, a student who is achieves H6 in Honours Maths will be awarded points for this result, i.e. 71 points

26. Things to note 150 courses on the CAO require a Science subject
7 courses require Chemistry, e.g. Veterinary UCD, H4
2 courses require Biology, e.g.Human Health and Disease, TCD requires H5 Biology & H5 in another Lab Science
1 course requires Physics
61 courses require HL Maths, e.g. Level 8 Engineering, Computer Science TCD & UCD
21 courses require HL Irish, e.g. Primary Teaching
No course requires Business as a specific subject
Since 2012 there are 25 bonus points for each grade at HL Maths, this will still be in place but will NOT be offered to students obtaining H7
** – Students tab, useful tools, minimum subject requirements, Leaving Cert subjects

27. Points Implications Study 7/8 SUBJECTS for Leaving Certificate
Points are based on BEST 6 RESULTS obtained in ONE SITTING – these do not have to be counted from the subjects for specific course requirements
ALL SUBJECTS carry equal points (except Honours Maths)
The points for every course are based on supply and demand each year, e.g.. The popularity of a course

28. Other Requirements
Entrance to certain courses may depend on other requirements such as:
PORTFOLIO – Art, Film, etc
APTITUDE TEST – Medicine, HPAT
AUDITION – Drama
INTERVIEW – Art, etc
In these cases points may be allotted for these assessments.

29. careers.cbcmonkstown.ie/
Careers information
@CBCGuidance
careers.cbcmonkstown.ie/

30. Curriculum Information
has information on the Leaving Certificate subjects
Open the ‘What to study’
Under ‘school subject choices’ click on ‘Leaving Cert Subjects’
Menu of all subjects available
There are further links to course content, exam layout, etc.
– useful for specific subject requirements for specific courses
Past papers on – exam material archive section
(Careerfile/Course Search/Subject Choice)
(Overview of all LC subjects)
(A-Z Career Database with description of different jobs)
(Overview of many careers in the Careerpath section)
(Overview of courses and careers in engineering)

31. Conclusion Choose subjects most interested in studying.
Choose subjects likely to succeed at.
Be aware of college/course requirements (Languages and Sciences)
The majority of courses in college do not have specific subject requirements.