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The FDA Ponders Whether to Further Regulate the 5Rs and 1S of Medical Devices by 3rd Parties, In-House and ISOs Patrick Lynch, CBET, CCE, CHTM, fACCE, CPHIMS Florida Biomed Society December 10, 2016
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What are the 5 Rs and 1S? Refurbishing Reconditioning Rebuilding Remarketing Remanufacturing Servicing
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What is the FDA? What do they do? And how do they do it?
FDA Mission. The Food and Drug Administration is responsible for protecting the public health by ensuring the safety, efficacy, and security of human and veterinary drugs, biological products, and medical devices; and by ensuring the safety of our nation's food supply, cosmetics, and products that emit radiation.
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What is the FDA? What do they do? And how do they do it?
FDA Mission. The Food and Drug Administration is responsible for protecting the public health by ensuring the safety, efficacy, and security of human and veterinary drugs, biological products, and medical devices; and by ensuring the safety of our nation's food supply, cosmetics, and products that emit radiation.
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What is the FDA? What do they do? And how do they do it?
FDA Mission. The Food and Drug Administration is responsible for protecting the public health by ensuring the safety, efficacy, and security of human and veterinary drugs, biological products, and medical devices; and by ensuring the safety of our nation's food supply, cosmetics, and products that emit radiation.
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What is the FDA? What do they do? And how do they do it?
FDA Mission. The Food and Drug Administration is responsible for protecting the public health by ensuring the safety, efficacy, and security of human and veterinary drugs, biological products, and medical devices; and by ensuring the safety of our nation's food supply, cosmetics, and products that emit radiation.
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What is the FDA? What do they do? And how do they do it?
FDA Mission. The Food and Drug Administration is responsible for protecting the public health by ensuring the safety, efficacy, and security of human and veterinary drugs, biological products, and medical devices; and by ensuring the safety of our nation's food supply, cosmetics, and products that emit radiation.
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What is the FDA? What do they do? And how do they do it?
FDA Mission. The Food and Drug Administration is responsible for protecting the public health by ensuring the safety, efficacy, and security of human and veterinary drugs, biological products, and medical devices; and by ensuring the safety of our nation's food supply, cosmetics, and products that emit radiation.
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What is the FDA? What do they do? And how do they do it?
FDA Mission. The Food and Drug Administration is responsible for protecting the public health by ensuring the safety, efficacy, and security of human and veterinary drugs, biological products, and medical devices; and by ensuring the safety of our nation's food supply, cosmetics, and products that emit radiation.
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What is the FDA? What do they do? And how do they do it?
FDA Mission. The Food and Drug Administration is responsible for protecting the public health by ensuring the safety, efficacy, and security of human and veterinary drugs, biological products, and medical devices; and by ensuring the safety of our nation's food supply, cosmetics, and products that emit radiation.
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What is the FDA? What do they do? And how do they do it?
FDA Mission. The Food and Drug Administration is responsible for protecting the public health by ensuring the safety, efficacy, and security of human and veterinary drugs, biological products, and medical devices; and by ensuring the safety of our nation's food supply, cosmetics, and products that emit radiation.
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What is the FDA? What do they do? And how do they do it?
Pass rules. Inspect. Collect Fees. Impost Fines. Stop Production. Stop Sales. Force Recalls.
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What is the FDA? What do they do? And how do they do it?
They do all of these things solely through action with the manufacturers of the products to make sure that they are safe for use. The FDA has authority over no one but the manufacturers and sellers of the goods and services that they regulate.
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What is this all about. Who started it. Who are the stakeholders
What is this all about? Who started it? Who are the stakeholders? What do they disagree about? According to the March 4 announcement:
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March 4, 2016 – A call for information
178 responses Who responded? What did they say? Categories, Names, positions, quotes.
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October 27-28, 2016 – A workshop in Silver Spring, MD
Attendees Participants Arguments Quotes
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Categories of Attendees
Government Manufacturers (OEMs) 10 ISOs Standards Organizations 3 Trade Associations Hospitals and End Users 11
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Manufacturers / oemS Bayer GE Healthcare Hitachi America
Johnson & Johnson MDMA (Medical Device & Mfgr Assn) Medtronic Pentax America Philips Siemens Healthcare Varian Medical Systems
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U.S. Federal Trade Commission
Government U.S. Federal Trade Commission Attorney Advisor, Office of Policy Planning
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Katherine Ambrogi Attorney Advisor, U.S. Federal Trade Commission
Trade Commission Creed – Competition is at the Core of the American Economy Job – To Prevent Unfair or Deceptive Acts Executive Order from Obama – All Federal Agencies are to work to “Increase Competition”
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ISO / Independent Servicers
Mobile Instrument Repair & Service Oxford Instruments Paragon Services Tri Imaging TriMedX Afya Foundation of America Alpha Source First Source Integrated Medical Systems
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Standards Organizations
AAMI - President AAMI – Senior VP Cambridge Polymer Group
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Hospitals & End USers ACCE Dept. of Veterans Affairs ECRI Institute
Healthcare Technology Consulting ISS Solutions Peters VA Medical Center Mass General Hospital TriMedX Zablocki VA Medical Center VA National Center for Patient Safety
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Trade Associations AdvaMed IAMERS
MDMA (Medical Device Manufacturers Association) MITA (Medical Technology & Imaging Alliance)
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Some Titles of the people who attended . . .
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The order of things (1 of 5)
Day 1 - Morning Welcome History of FDA Involvement in 5 Rs & 1S Definitions & Overview of Stakeholder Perspectives Stakeholder Presentations (OEM, ISO, End User) OEM – MITA, AdvaMed, MDMA ISO – Mobile Instrument Repair, ISS Solutions, TriMedX Associations – IAMERS, AAMI Government – US Federal Trade Commission
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The order of things (2 of 5)
Day 1- Afternoon Panel 1 - Benefits and Risks Associated with 5Rs & 1S performed by Third Party and OEM OEM - Philips, MDMA, Pentax, Siemens ISO – Tri Imaging, Mobile Inst Repair & Service, TriMedX, Crothall End User – ECRI Institute, Mass General, VA National Center for Patient Safety Presentation by Participants
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The order of things (3 of 5)
Day 2 - Morning Panel 2 – Characteristics of Good 5R & 1S Entities OEM – Johnson & Johnson, Bayer, MDMA ISO – Integrated Medical Systems, Mobile Instrument Service & Repair End User – ISS Solutions, Peters VA Medical Center, Dept of Veterans Affairs (Gastroenterologist Panel 3 – Challenges Stakeholders Face in Performing High Quality 5R & 1S Activities OEM ISO End Users
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The order of things (4 of 5)
Day 2 – Morning (continued) Panel 3 – Challenges Stakeholders Face in Performing High Quality 5R & 1S Activities OEM – Medtronic, MDMA, Hitachi ISO – First Source, Alpha Source, Paragon Services End Users – Healthcare Technology Consulting, Mass General, Dept of Veterans Affairs (Gastroenterologist)
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The order of things (5 of 5)
Day 2 – Afternoon Panel 4 – Current Best Practices and Future Recommendations Standards – AAMI, Cambridge Polymer Institute OEM – Varian Medical, GE Healthcare ISO – Afya Foundation, Oxford Instruments End Users – Zablocki VA Medical Center, SSM Health, ACCE
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What might the FDA do? Nothing.
Declare some additional entities as manufacturers and regulate them just as they regulate other manufacturers today. National ISOs Local ISOs Third Parties In-house employees of end users
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How does the FDA regulate Manufacturers today?
(My Incomplete information) Quality systems Reports Collection of data Traceability of parts Retention of reports, logs - forever Adherence to Good Manufacturing Practices Inspections
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But Servicers have a lot fewer things to do . . .
(Again – my limited knowledge) Records Periodic analysis Periodic reports Traceability Labeling
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Major Arguments by OEMs
It’s NOT about the Money. It’s all about Safety. ECRI Statistics are wrong – there is gross under-reporting of incidents related to equipment maintenance. Just because patient injury and death isn’t showing up in the data doesn’t mean that it isn’t occurring.
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Major Arguments by Everyone Else:
Don’t try to fix a problem that doesn’t exist. No One has demonstrated that there is any problem. It is all about money. The manufacturers just want everyone else’s cost to rise so that their’s doesn’t look so high.
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ECRI Stats
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An interesting twist at the end of the workshop
Someone asked to the manufacturers, “Would you be in favor of it if the FDA relaxed their oversight of service activities on everybody, including the manufacturers?” There was a very long quietness, and then a lot of head nodding as the manufacturers were genuinely in favor of the prospect. It made it clear that they didn’t think that there is a problem, they just want it to be equal.
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Notable Quotes froM The Workshop
“We are confident that the FDA will not regulate by anecdote.” “Something may be more afoot than uniform enforcement.” “Manufacturers cannot have it both ways – claim untrained third parties but refuse to train them.”
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Panel 0 – General Comments ACCE 1
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Panel 0 – General Comments ACCE 2
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Panel 0 – General Comments ACCE 3
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Panel 0 – General Comments ACCE 4
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Panel 0 – General Comments MITA 1
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Panel 0 – General Comments MITA 2
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Panel 0 – General Comments MITA 3
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Panel 0 – General Comments MITA 4
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Panel 0 – General Comments MITA 5
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Panel 0 – General Comments Poor Quality 1
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Panel 0 – General Comments Poor Quality 2
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Panel 0 – General Comments MITA 6
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Panel 1 – Benefits and Risks
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Panel 1 – Benefits and Risks
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Panel 1 – Benefits and Risks
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Panel 1 – Benefits and Risks
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Panel 2 – Characteristics of Good Servicers
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Panel 2 – Characteristics of Good Servicers
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Panel 3 Challenges for Stakeholders - OEMs
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Panel 3 Challenges for Stakeholders - OEMs
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Panel 3 Challenges for Stakeholders - OEMs
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Panel 3 Challenges for Stakeholders - OEMs
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Panel 3 Challenges for Stakeholders - OEMs
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Panel 3 Challenges for Stakeholders – ISO – (Malcolm)
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Panel 3 Challenges for Stakeholders – End User
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Panel 4 – Future Recommendations - OEM
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Panel 4 – Future Recommendations – End Users
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Panel 4 – Future Recommendations – End Users / ISO
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What might the FDA do? Nothing
Full Regulation all the way to Hospital BMETS
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Thanks you for attending
Patrick Lynch Patrick Lynch Problem Solving & Consulting
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