1. Cicero, pro Caelio 25, 28, 30, 44

2. To understand the content of this extract from pro Caelio
Lesson objectives
To understand the content of this extract from pro Caelio

3. To understand the style of this extract from pro Caelio
Lesson objectives
To understand the style of this extract from pro Caelio

4. Cicero, pro Caelio 25, 28, 30, 44 lines 1-4
meus familiaris L. Herennius dixit multa de luxurie, my friend, Lucius Herennius has said much (many things) about extravagance, multa de libidine, much about lustfulness, multa de vitiis iuventutis, much about the faults of youth, multa de moribus. much about (their) morals. castigavit M. Caelium, He has scolded Marcus Caelius sicut neminem umquam parens; as a parent has ever scolded nobody (i.e. as no parent has ever scolded anybody) multa de incontinentia intemperantiaque disseruit. He said much about self indulgence and lack of control.

5. Lucius Herennius is prosecuting M. Caelius.
Cicero is defending M. Caelius.
We don’t get to hear what Herennius has just said.
All we hear is Cicero’s response.
What might Lucius Herennius have said?
About youth today?
About Marcus Caelius?

6. Cicero, pro Caelio 25, 28, 30, 44 lines 4-8
equidem multos et vidi in hac civitate et audivi Indeed, in this State, I have both heard and seen many men - non modo qui primoribus labris gustavissent genus hoc vitae et extremis, ut dicitur, digitis attigissent, who had not only tasted this kind of life with the edge of their lips (primoribus labris) and touched (it) so it is said with the tips of the fingers (extremis digitis) sed qui totam adulescentiam voluptatibus dedissent but who had given their whole youth to these pleasures - emersisse aliquando et graves homines atque illustres fuisse. to have emerged eventually and to have been men both serious and famous.

8. What is Cicero’s argument in lines 4-8?

9. What is Cicero’s argument in lines 4-8?
It’s Okay to be wild in your youth – you will still be serious and respectable later.
Being wild when you are young doesn’t stop you from being a solid citizen when you grow up.

10. Cicero, pro Caelio 25, 28, 30, 44 lines 9-11
itaque severitati tuae non respondebo; therefore, I shall not respond to your severity; deprecari vacationem adulescentiae veniamque petere non audeo; I do not dare to beg for an exception for youth and to plead for a pardon; perfugiis aetatis non utor; I do not rely on the excuses of (his) age;

11. What is Cicero’s argument in lines 9-11?
Says he won’t make excuses on account of M Caelius’s age.
But wait – hasn’t he done just that?

12. Cicero, pro Caelio 25, 28, 30, 44 lines 11-13
tantum peto ut, I only seek that si qua est invidia communis hoc tempore aeris alieni, petulantiae, libidinum iuventutis if there is at this time any general disapproval of debt, of rudeness, of the passions of youth - quam video esse magnam – which I see is great ne huic aliorum peccata, ne aetatis ac temporum vitia noceant. neither the sins of others nor the vices of youth and of the times may harm this man.

13. What is Cicero’s argument in lines 11-13?
Herennius has clearly just given a big speech damning the vices of youth and of the times they live in.
Cicero says it’s not fair to hold these general prejudices against Caelius.
So he’s going to go through the accusations against youth in general and defend Caelius.

14. Cicero, pro Caelio 25, 28, 30, 44 lines 13-17
in M. Caelio enim nulla luxuries reperietur, nulli sumptus, nullum aes alienum, nulla conviviorum ac lustrorum libido. For in Marcus Caelius will be found no extravagance, no squandering, no debt, no lust for parties and dens of vice. amores autem et hae deliciae, ut vocantur, However, the loves and these flings, as they are called quae infirmioribus animis molestae solent esse, which are accustomed to be troublesome to weaker minds numquam hunc occupatum impeditumque tenuerunt. have never kept this man engrossed and entangled.

15. What is Cicero’s argument in lines 13-17?
Cicero goes through the charges Herennius has made against youth in general.
Caelius has specifically NOT
gotten into money troubles (squandering and debt)
he does NOT spend all his time at parties and seedy bars.
BUT
He may have had the odd love affair (not quite admitting this)
But even so, he was not too tied up in it.

16. Homework for next time:
With close reference to the Latin, sum up the arguments that Cicero is making in defence of Marcus Caelius.
Come to Focus Group Wed registration E7 or E8