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FRIENDSHIP FRIENDSHIP OF LOVERS Question of permanence (time)
Immeasurability of love? Conflict of desire/ motive (telos): enjoyment vs. gain Complains: excess of love is not met (though nothing is lovable about her) Loving for the sake of pleasure/ utility Non-possession of qualities expected of someone.
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GREEK WORDS FOR LOVE EROS PHILIA AGAPE
Intense desire for something: beauty (Platonic) To love is to love the platonic form of beauty Not the person but the element present in the person Sexual desire (erotic) Present in the desire of the animals Enduring? PHILIA Family, state: appreciation (qualities) of others Loyalty: job or discipline Love is being useful and pleasing AGAPE Complete vs utility & pleasure Reciprocity: subj-obj
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FRIENDSHIP IMPORTANT: PERSON OR QUALITIES?
Loving the person rather than the qualities One who wishes the good Love starts in attraction (goodwill) Similar tastes Loving oneself first we cannot give that which we don’t have Something is desirable in us/ something is good in us Wicked man = duty vs. actions What he does clashes with what he ought to do Good man: what he ought to do, he does Obeys his reason
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PROBLEMS WITH RELATIONSHIP & HAPPINESS
DESTINY AND FREEWILL (pre- determinism) PASSION VS REASON MOVE ON, LET GO SOCIETY
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DESTINY & FREEWILL Belief: soul mates STOICISM IRRATIONAL
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PASSION VS REASON
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MOVE ON, LET GO ADVANTAGE + PLEASURE CONSEQUENCES
Ok: if friendship is based on pleasure or utility. Pretending to love us If a friend appears to be wicked? Attempt: Capacity for reformation (change) Transformation: intellect of a child – intellect of an adult We can only love what is “good” “so how are we to know that it just isn’t so… that we just have to let each other go…” “If loving you is all that means to me, when being happy is all I hope you’d be… then loving you must mean I really have to set you free.”
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SOCIETY GUARANTOR: virtue and happiness
Possible to be of great friend to many people? One cannot live with many people and divide oneself up among them. Girl bestfriend and a girlfriend Muslim culture Birthday party “sana dalawa ang puso ko”
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COMPLETE FRIENDSHIP Reason Mutual: dignity as a person
Reciprocity = return made should be fair to both parties Similarities/ partnership Sense of living/ sharing together Pursuit to improve each other = marriage Not fair to return the equivalent of what one has received? To render to each class what is appropriate and becoming. Equal Rights = democracy = polis
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Common? Same sex marriage? Is there an honor in Suicides?
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