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Legal Systems Very Different
The Idea All societies face about the same problems They solve them in an interesting variety of different ways And they are all grownups So try to make sense of how each legal system worked Some of the systems Imperial China: 2000 years Periclean Athens: The Legal System of a Mad Economist Saga Period Iceland: Kill someone, his relatives sue you Islamic Law: Separation of law and state Jewish law: When God is the legislator, what if He gets it wrong? 18th Century England: Our legal system without police or public prosecutors Romani: The rest of the human race as environment, not people Amish: Anarchists. Very rule centered anarchists. Pirate ships as democracies In defense of prison gangs
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Imperial China: I As viewed from above, a pure criminal legal system
As viewed from below, tort law masquerading as criminal law In addition to important stuff, there are minor matters Loans, land, marriage, and inheritance. I charge you with not paying back the loan The magistrate schedules a court date, comments on the case I then bargain with you, you pay back the loan We humbly ask the magistrate to cancel the court date The magistrate, being a busy man, agrees If we don’t reach agreement, the trial is held, the magistrate tells you to pay If you do, he generously cancels the punishment for your offense
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Imperial China: II Law and the extended family What is going on?
All relatives are senior or junior to each other, and within some degree of relationship Any offense by senior or junior, the penalty is scaled down By junior to senior, the penalty is scaled up Accusing a senior relative within two degrees of a crime is a criminal offense Even if he is guilty What is going on? They are ruling several hundred million people with a tiny bureaucracy Part of the trick is to subcontract the job to other authority structures Of which the extended family is the most important So the rules reinforce that authority structure The ability to report crimes by seniors would give juniors power over them So is blocked
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Imperial China III: The Examination System
Officials are selected by a ferociously competitive examination system The exam was testing things mostly irrelevant to the job Knowledge of the Confucian classics and historical literature Calligraphy and ability to write poetry and essays in a particular style Why have the smartest people spend a decade or two studying this stuff? A test of IQ and willingness to work hard? Indoctrination Is our emphasis on a college education a modern equivalent?
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Periclean Athens Athenian democracy The Athenian population
All officials, except generals, were chosen by lot A government of amateurs The Athenian population Perhaps half were slaves Some more were metics—resident aliens, often for many generations The rest were citizens The court system Trial by very large juries Privately prosecuted What was the incentive to prosecute? For the equivalent of criminal law, a successful prosecutor usually got a cut of the fine For the equivalent of a tort prosecution, as in our system the winner collected a damage payment
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Periclean Athens: Solving Problems
How do you prevent abusive prosecution for the fine or damage payment? Criminal: If less than 20% of the jury voted for conviction, prosecutor was fined Civil: If the defendant won, the prosecutor owed him damages–1/6th the claim The penalty for theft was twice the value of the goods stolen An obvious opportunity to plant goods while searching You could search someone’s house for your stolen goods But had to do it naked We have a similar issue when cops search for drugs. … Production of public goods If you were one of the richest Athenians, every other year you had to produce one Two ways of getting out of it Show that you are doing one this year or did last year Show that there is someone not doing one this year or last who is richer than you are Without IRS or accountants, how do I prove you are richer than I am? I offer to exchange everything I own for everything you own
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Saga Period Iceland In the 10th century, Harald Haarfagr unifies Norway under his rule Lots of people who don’t like it emigrate to Iceland, recently discovered Set up a legal system based on the Norwegian, with one thing left out The king There was a legislature, a court system, but no executive arm of government All offenses were treated as torts, privately prosecuted for a damage payment Verdicts were privately enforced The sagas are histories and historical novels Written more than seven hundred years ago From a population of about fifty thousand at the far edge of the world Ten or more of which are currently in print in English translation
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Islamic Law Separation of law and state Mufti and Kadi
The law is deduced by scholars from the Koran and Hadith Like our system, with court precedents replaced by law review articles Hadith are accounts of things said or done by Mohammed and his companions Each comes with an isnad, a chain of transmitters The strength of a hadith depends on the reputation of the transmitters And the number of separate chains supporting the same hadith. In Sunni Islam there are four schools of law, mutually orthodox Mufti and Kadi A mufti is a jurisconsult, someone who gives advisory opinions on the law (fatwas) A Kadi is a judge, appointed by the ruler, who tries an actual case
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Hadd Law Legal rules with fixed penalty based mostly on the Koran
Five offenses. All require two eye witnesses, except that … For Zina, intercourse with someone neither your spouse nor concubine Proof requires four eyewitnesses to the same act of intercourse The penalty for those who have previously had licit intercourse is stoning to death False accusation of Zina Theft Penalty is having your right hand cut off But there are a lot of conditions that have to be met for the hadd offense of theft Drinking wine Highway robbery (includes breaking into a house with people put in fear)
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Other Parts of the Law Tazir Jinayat: Killing or injuring someone
Penalty set by the judge at or below the hadd penalty Weaker requirements of evidence Jinayat: Killing or injuring someone Treated as an offense against the victim or his heirs For first degree murder Heirs can insist on retaliation Or accept diya, blood money payment For lesser versions of killing, only diya In addition, killer must free a believing slave or fast for two months Other non-fiqh courts There are a variety of other courts set up by the ruler Theoretically in the spirit of, but not bound by, koranic law
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Jewish Parallels Not surprisingly, a lot of similarity
According to Torah, the disobedient son is to be stoned But rabbinic scholars read into the text so many conditions That it is argued that it never has happened or will happen Both systems face the same problems When God is the legislator, how do you resolve disagreements Initially, the Great Sanhedrin could resolve disputes by majority vote When that no longer existed, whatever authorities were accepted—reputation, like the mufti For a while, the heads of the Babylonian academies Later scholars such as Maimonides Communal authorities claimed some power to legislate, like the non-fiqh courts When God gets it wrong, how do you fix the error? Interpret around things you don’t like Or find excuses for additional legislation outside the religious law Consider the parallels with U.S. constitutional law
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Eighteenth Century England
Our legal system, without police or public prosecutors All crimes, except actually against the state (counterfeiting), privately prosecuted Any Englishman can prosecute any crime Usually the victim And essentially all serious crimes were capital But only a minority of those convicted of such crimes were hanged Puzzles Why bear the cost of prosecution? Unlike tort, you don’t collect damages One incentive in some cases was a reward Another was private deterrence Members of a society for the prosecution of felons chipped in annual fees to pay for prosecution And the membership list was published in the newspaper for the felons to read Another was getting paid to drop the case Why make all offenses capital Why pardon a majority of those convicted—usually conditional pardons For answers read the chapter in my (webbed) book draft
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The Crime/Tort Puzzle We have two legal systems to do essentially the same job You do something bad, the legal system intervenes, something bad happens to you A reason not to do bad things One, tort, treats offenses as offenses against the victim The victim is in charge of discovering the offender and prosecuting him The victim can drop charges The usual punishment is a payment to the victim One, criminal, treats offenses as offenses against the state State actors discover and prosecute the offender If there is a fine it goes to the state More commonly there is a punishment such as imprisonment This raises three questions Is there a good reason to have both? Would we be better off with only one? Is there a good reason to sort offenses as we do? Is there a good reason to bundle legal rules as we do? One collection of rules for tort A different collection for crime
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Should We Abolish the Criminal Law?
Imagine a pure tort system Problems The victim may not have the resources to prosecute. Some offenses cause diffuse injury For both, the Icelandic solution: Make tort claims marketable The poor victim sells his claim to a firm with resources to enforce it Replace class actions with someone buying up many small claims and then litigating Besides which, most crimes mostly injure the victim Offenders may be judgement proof One could have legal rules making that less likely The state could pay the fine and imprison the offender—still mostly tort Potential victims could commit in advance to buy deterrence, as in 18th c. England A sticker on your door ”The resident is a customer of Sure-Death Incorporated private prosecution agency” But that doesn’t work for victim anonymous offenses—pick pocketing, mugging The fine for a crime is both the punishment for the criminal and the reward for the victim We want the optimal probability/punishment pair But setting the punishment sets the probability, since it determines the payoff to catching him We cannot separately control two functions with one variable The fancy solution, using profit maximization for an additional constraint, is an article on my web page The simple answer is that the identical problem exists for ordinary tort law
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Sorting Offenses Do we allocate offenses correctly to the two system?
Tort law for offenses where we know who did it Landes/Posner argument That eliminates the probability/punishment problem for catching the offender But the chance of winning a tort suit depends on how much you are willing to spend Which depends on how large the damages are Which gets us back to the probability/punishment problem. Judgement proof argument If it is hard to catch the offender, we need a big fine to provide adequate deterrence Which the offender may not be able to pay And catching him is expensive, so we also need a big fine to make it worth doing On the other hand, torts are more likely than crimes to be anonymous victim You don’t know who you are likely to run into Or who your pet lion will maul And the torts we see litigated are the ones easy to detect Because it isn’t worth litigating the rest With no probability multiplier for damages Which may be a way of avoiding an incentive for fraudulent prosecution
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Bundling Legal Rules The same person controls prosecution and collects fines That makes sense, since otherwise the controller takes a bribe to drop the case But it creates an opportunity for fraudulent prosecution In both tort law and criminal law—consider civil forfeiture In 18th century England, rewards for private prosecution created fraud More efficient punishments go with a lower standard of proof Makes sense, since errors have lower social cost, but … An efficient punishment is an incentive for fraudulent prosecution Which is easier with a lower standard of proof
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Burglary, Traffic Accidents, and Incentives
Treating something as a tort reduces the victim’s incentive to avoid it Since the loss is at least partly, perhaps entirely, compensated “Hit me—I need the money” So where the act creates a net cost, make it a crime instead For instance traffic accidents Where something is a transfer If the victim is fully compensated, no need for an incentive for him to prevent it It will only happen when the gain to the offender is greater than the cost So burglary should be a tort The point being that we are optimizing on many margins And picking one lets you argue for a conclusion, ignoring the others Which means that whatever the rule, you may be able to “prove” it is efficient
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Is the Common Law Efficient?
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The a priori case—should we expect it to be?
Argument for judges doing it deliberately Increasing the size of the pie is the one good thing judges can do, so they try to do it But that assumes they know enough economics To realize they cannot redistribute in their preferred direction And enough to know what rules are efficient And ignores the fact that, unlike firms, they don’t get feedback from their mistakes And it assumes they are not aiming at justice instead Perhaps they are, and there is some reason why what is efficient is seen as just? Invisible hand argument If the law is inefficient, parties have an incentive to try to work around it Or to litigate in the hope of changing it Eventually the law changes But changing the law faces a public good problem If beneficiaries of an inefficient legal rule are a concentrated interest group And losers dispersed interest group The beneficiaries may raise more to litigate for it than the losers to litigate against Consider, for instance, an agency litigating for rules it likes against dispersed losers
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The Case from the Evidence
Property rules vs liability rules The legal system mostly gets that right, but … Mostly doing it the other way is not just inefficient but obviously unworkable Dent someone’s car, go to jail? Steal someone’s car, pay rental for the time you had it? Other general patterns seem to fit the theory The right to grow crops on land is bundled with the right to walk on it I no longer own my property up to the heavens Tort law as a Pigouvian tax Negligence as a solution to the joint causation problem Posner offers various detailed rules that he argues fit
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The Case Against Organ sales are illegal (is that common law or statutory law?) There are potential rent seeking problems, but Requiring good chain of title should deal with them No freedom of contract for product liability Or breach—penalty clauses are not enforceable Although a penalty clause is just a voluntarily agreed to property rule And property rules are part of common law The common law treats the value of life as zero in tortious death cases Since your claim dies with you So an inefficiently low incentive not to take risks with other people’s lives Tort claims are not marketable. If they were That would solve the problem of not being able to afford a lawyer And of not knowing what lawyer would do a good job And provide a superior substitute for class actions
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The Case for Ignorance Economic arguments are complicated
My crime/tort chapter ran the argument through seven rounds This is why you could have a pure tort system This is why it wouldn’t work This is how that problem would be dealt with This … Once you know the legal rule, you can usually find some argument that it is efficient Coming to the nuisance A good rule, because it is cheaper to move a housing development or pig farm before it is built A bad rule, because my pig farm gives me control over land that will later be wanted for housing So I have a rent seeking argument to build the pig farm now where you will want to build housing later The Himalayan photographer and the Eggshell Skull The economic logic of two problems is the same The legal answer is different And each time Posner concludes that the legal answer is correct But the issue Posner raised has been very productive The question “what legal rules is efficient” Provides a way of unifying our understanding of the law Seeing connections across fields otherwise not obvious
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Alternative Solutions to the Problem of Law
Feud Law: Decentralized and privately enforced Dictatorship: Someone tells everyone what to do and makes them do it Decentralized decisions under state enforced legal rules Our system, which you have been studying And most of this book is about
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Feud Law Law by private violence and threats of violence: Feud systems
If you wrong me I threaten to harm you unless you compensate me A form of decentralized private law enforcement To work, it needs to solve four problems My threat is more believable if you really did wrong me: Right makes might In Iceland, the court system Among the Romanichal, a small community, my friends only support me if they think I am justified I have an incentive to carry out my threat, even if doing so is costly Internal incentives, feelings of vengefulness—a hardwired commitment strategy External incentives—status and reputation There is some way in which people with few resources get their rights enforced In the Icelandic case, transferable tort claims In Somalia, membership in a diya paying group There is a mechanism for terminating feud The system is historically common, may underlie most legal systems And arguably exists informally in modern societies
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Dictatorship The direct centralized solution Problems
The dictator doesn’t know enough to find the best solution Because the information is decentralized—you know your tastes and abilities And because it is too much information for any person or computer to handle Think about all the little things you know about things relevant to solving it Including everything you do East Germany supposedly used half the population to spy on all the population And that would have reported a tiny fraction of the information about each person All of which he knows and can act on The dictator has to make you do things I can move my arm by willing it You can move my arm only by more indirect and costly mechanisms So your controlling me is more costly than me controlling me What incentive does the dictator have to serve us instead of himself?
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Our System in Brief Property Contract Tort and crime
We need a definition of who owns what and what he owns We need ways of establishing that for newly created property We need ways of settling disputes over that and enforcing the result Contract We need ways of moving ownership to the person who values it most We need rules for determining when a contract exists and what it implies Tort and crime We need ways of making it not in people interest to violate the legal rules Which requires mechanisms for prosecuting and punishing those who do And ways of settling disagreements over whether rules were violated And what the consequences should be
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