1. Note to LGC folks: I was slammed for time on Friday and put this together in 90 minutes.
The purpose of this was not to display on an overhead or handout. I used it for my own notes, as I occasionally do for meetings where there is a time constraint and want to cover a lot of topics.
Obviously it was noticeable at the meeting so I passed on my only hard copy to my official, with the exception of the Appendix.

2. Talking Points Coffee With CA State Senator Omitted
1/26/13

3. Who I Am Name: omitted Address: omitted Cell: omitted
I am a husband, father & son
Lifelong Democrat since 1988
Lifelong Californian since the 60’s, exact date omitted.
I work in the omitted industry
Active target shooter/collector since 1991
I do not hunt
I do not own guns for self defense
I grew up in an anti-gun home, that still is to this day
Member of the Liberal Gun Club & the NRA

4. Topics of Discussion
SB-47 - This proposal would ban the sale of most rifles that can accept the standard, CA legal, 10 round magazine that currently requires a tool to remove said magazine. This law will also require owners of this rifle type to register with the state, perhaps on an annual basis.
Ammunition Purchase Permit – this proposal would require buyers of ammunition to present a “permit” to buy ammunition.
Tax Deductions for Gun Safes – I would propose offering state tax deductions for gun owners who purchase a gun safe (meeting acceptable criteria).

5. Short History of CA Rifle Legislation
1989 – Ban on assault rifles
2000 – Ban on ammunition magazines that can accept over 10 rounds of ammunition
2000 – Ban on standard mag release buttons
2013? – Proposal to ban rifles that can accept a magazine. This applies to rifles that currently can only use a 10 round magazine by law as well as rifles that already have to have a “bullet button” requiring a “key” to remove said magazine. (I noted in my discussion
The goal post is moving yet again. What’s next?
Note to LGC members: My point here was articulate how with every so called “compromise” the anti-gun community moves the goal post. Ban 30 roung mags, then ban any gun can accept any magazine, ect…..

6. SB-47 - What is “Justifying New Gun Legislation”?
California in 2011 had the lowest murder rate in 46 years. (source CA DOJ)
In 2010 California had 58 rifle murders out of 1,792 murders of all types. (source CA DOJ)
Crime is down for almost every “crime type” (see data from attached). Why aren’t our politicians in Sac taking any credit for our amazing progress? (humorous sarcasm to share with your colleagues)
Targeting semi-auto rifle owners makes about as much sense as blaming all of our Muslim brothers & sisters in CA for 911.

7. A Permit to Buy Ammunition?
Many target shooters and competition shooters buy their ammo online at a fraction of the cost of buying it locally.
Case in point, my shooting partner & I were spending $750 per month on precision ammunition online that would have cost us over $1,300 locally.
How will this accommodate online purchases and those who reload ammunition?
The author of this bill wants to put those who purchase over 1,000 rounds at a time on a watch list.
Myself and many of my friends typically buy in bulk and average between 5,000 rounds to my all time high of 7,500 rounds a year.

8. Liberals Are Getting Organized
I am happy to report that I have never seen so many liberals speaking out and getting involved in gun rights as I have in the last few years.
We will educate our fellow liberals on gun rights.
We will begin to have our voices heard in our state houses to D.C…..as well as the NRA.
Check out the club I belong to. Feel free to reach out to our administrators for more information.

9. Appendix

10. A Liberal Gun Owners Thoughts On Gun Control
What I am for: (YES)
What I am against: (NO)
1. Universal Background Checks - YES, I think that a mechanism for screening out those individuals who do not have a Constitutional Right to own a firearm (felons, mentally ill) should be enhanced. Keeping this element from our gun shows, our ranges and all other legal avenues is sensible.
1. Gun Bans - NO, I do not support gun bans, including the proposed ban of bullet buttons and guns that can accept 10 round magazines. There is absolutely no statistical justification to drive SB-47 through the legislative process.
2. Tax Deductions for Safes - YES, we should encourage safety as much as possible. Encouraging the increased purchase of safes and securing more guns is not only good for the safety of the general public but also gun in the protection of gun owners property. I would also like to figure out a means of providing security options for low income gun owners as well.
2. Mandatory Gun Registration (New/Retroactive) - NO, convicted sex offenders should be registered, not gun owners who have neither been tried, nor convicted of any crime. Also, if we had a universal background check wouldn't it make gun registration redundant? SB-47 would require owners of certain rifle types to register their guns……. and essentially themselves with the state. Gun ownership is a civil right not a privilege.
3. Enhanced Safety Training – YES, hands on safety training for first time gun owners would be highly desirable. It would enhance safety for not only the new gun owner, but also the general public.
3. Mandatory Armed Guards at Schools - NO, this should entirely be up to local and state governments. I would however support federal/state funding for this purpose for those requesting it.

11. The Car Analogy, Rifles & Collective Punishment
In 2007 there were 1,464 speeding-related fatalities in California. (source The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration)
All rifle fatalities (including “assault type” weapons”) in California from :
Source: CA DOJ

12. The Car Analogy, Rifles & Collective Punishment
The maximum speed that one can travel in a car, on specified postings, in California is 70 miles per hour.
Many cars in California have the “potential” to drive at speeds up to 110 miles per hour and beyond.
We “trust” drivers to obey the speed limit.
With over 1,400 speeding related deaths should we put regulators on all cars to prevent them from driving over 70 miles per hour?
We would save more lives than banning certain “rifle types”. I am not advocating regulators on cars, but the analogy fits our collective emotion and how we think about gun deaths v.s. speeding deaths.
Source: CA DOJ

13. California Crime Data from 1960-2011
Year
Population
Index
Violent
Property
Murder
Murder Rate (per 100K)
Forcible Rape
Robbery
Aggravated assault
Burglary
Larceny-Theft
Vehicle Theft
1960
15,717,204
546,069
37,558
508,511
616
3.9
2,859
15,287
18,796
143,102
311,956
53,453
1961
16,397,000
559,162
38,154
521,008
605
3.7
3,033
14,832
19,684
146,615
319,834
54,559
1962
16,970,000
604,297
39,846
564,451
657
2,946
15,598
20,645
158,523
348,373
57,555
1963
17,590,000
666,128
42,419
623,709
673
3.8
3,080
16,458
22,208
175,703
384,289
63,717
1964
18,084,000
748,656
48,026
700,630
740
4.1
3,621
18,667
24,998
196,883
427,960
75,787
1965
18,602,000
803,487
52,490
750,997
880
4.7
3,948
21,081
26,581
225,007
444,217
81,773
1966
18,918,000
860,662
57,718
802,944
868
4.6
4,432
22,317
30,101
241,666
474,122
87,156
1967
19,153,000
968,203
67,446
900,757
1,039
5.4
4,792
28,539
33,076
276,958
526,477
97,322
1968
19,221,000
1,099,656
81,293
1,018,363
1,150 6
5,744
36,991
37,408
316,081
582,838
119,444
1969
19,443,000
1,185,961
89,878
1,096,083
1,386
7.1
7,053
39,240
42,199
325,891
638,249
131,943
1970
19,953,134
1,264,854
94,741
1,170,113
1,376
6.9
7,005
41,277
45,083
349,788
682,811
137,514
1971
20,223,000
1,352,941
104,872
1,248,069
1,642
8.1
7,300
47,626
48,304
392,277
711,417
144,375
1972
20,468,000
1,312,635
110,667
1,201,968
1,791
8.8
8,127
48,829
51,920
398,960
663,568
139,440
1973
20,601,000
1,298,872
116,563
1,182,309
1,862 9
8,357
49,531
56,813
407,824
643,488
130,997
1974
20,907,000
1,431,468
127,658
1,303,810
1,985
9.5
8,494
52,822
64,357
433,194
737,067
133,549
1975
21,185,000
1,526,293
138,842
1,387,451
2,209
10.4
8,807
59,827
67,999
469,726
784,639
133,086
1976
21,520,000
1,556,757
144,041
1,412,716
2,220
10.3
9,614
59,318
72,889
467,980
806,086
138,650
1977
21,896,000
1,534,621
154,582
1,380,039
2,515
11.5
10,825
62,852
78,390
468,452
766,317
145,270
1978
22,294,000
1,586,483
165,626
1,420,857
2,611
11.7
11,316
68,235
83,464
488,966
777,783
154,108
1979
22,696,000
1,695,108
184,087
1,511,021
2,952 13
12,239
75,767
93,129
496,310
847,148
167,563
1980
23,532,680
1,843,332
210,290
1,633,042
3,411
14.5
13,693
90,420
102,766
545,138
913,070
174,834
1981
24,159,000
1,833,787
208,485
1,625,302
3,143
13,566
93,781
97,995
540,806
921,939
162,557
1982
24,724,000
1,801,256
201,429
1,599,827
2,779
11.2
12,529
91,988
94,133
499,466
935,831
164,530
1983
25,174,000
1,680,978
194,491
1,486,487
2,639
10.5
12,093
85,826
93,933
460,460
867,123
158,904
1984
25,622,000
1,657,320
195,589
1,461,731
2,717
10.6
11,702
83,924
97,246
443,094
857,328
161,309

14. California Crime Data from 1960-2011
Year
Population
Index
Violent
Property
Murder
Murder Rate (per 100K)
Forcible Rape
Robbery
Aggravated assault
Burglary
Larceny-Theft
Vehicle Theft
1985
26,365,000
1,718,473
201,763
1,516,710
2,770
10.5
11,421
86,387
101,185
448,506
890,967
177,237
1986
26,981,000
1,824,669
248,370
1,576,299
3,038
11.3
12,119
92,512
140,701
457,698
913,004
205,597
1987
27,663,000
1,799,871
253,943
1,545,928
2,924
10.6
12,109
83,341
155,569
419,969
896,335
229,624
1988
28,168,000
1,869,092
261,912
1,607,180
2,936
10.4
11,780
86,141
161,055
407,631
933,636
265,913
1989
29,063,000
1,965,652
284,136
1,681,516
3,158
10.9
11,966
96,431
172,581
410,468
972,603
298,445
1990
29,760,021
1,965,237
311,051
1,654,186
3,553
11.9
12,688
112,208
182,602
400,392
951,580
302,214
1991
30,380,000
2,057,513
331,122
1,726,391
3,859
12.7
12,896
124,939
189,428
424,656
986,120
315,615
1992
30,867,000
2,061,761
345,624
1,716,137
3,921
12,761
130,897
198,045
427,491
968,534
320,112
1993
31,211,000
2,015,265
336,381
1,678,884
4,096
13.1
11,766
126,436
194,083
414,182
945,407
319,295
1994
31,431,000
1,940,497
318,395
1,622,102
3,703
11.8
10,984
112,160
191,548
384,257
929,640
308,205
1995
31,589,000
1,841,984
305,154
1,536,830
3,531
11.2
10,554
104,611
186,458
353,895
902,456
280,479
1996
31,878,000
1,660,131
274,996
1,385,135
2,916
9.1
10,244
94,222
167,614
312,212
830,457
242,466
1997
32,268,000
1,569,949
257,582
1,312,367
2,579 8
10,189
81,468
163,346
299,240
784,405
228,722
1998
32,667,000
1,418,674
229,883
1,188,791
2,171
6.6
9,782
68,782
149,148
269,012
724,262
195,517
1999
33,145,121
1,261,164
207,879
1,053,285
2,005 6
9,363
60,039
136,472
223,814
660,991
168,480
2000
33,871,648
1,266,714
210,531
1,056,183
2,079
6.1
9,785
60,249
138,418
222,293
651,855
182,035
2001
34,600,463
1,347,056
212,867
1,134,189
2,206
6.4
9,960
64,614
136,087
232,273
697,739
204,177
2002
35,001,986
1,384,872
208,388
1,176,484
2,395
6.8
10,198
64,968
130,827
2,384,280
715,692
222,364
2003
35,462,712
1,420,637
205,551
1,215,086
2,407
6.7
9,994
63,770
129,380
242,272
731,486
241,326
2004
35,842,038
1,416,369
189,175
1,227,194
2,392
9,615
61,768
115,400
245,903
728,687
252,604
2005
36,154,147
1,390,710
190,178
1,200,532
2,503
6.9
9,392
63,622
114,661
250,521
692,467
257,543
2006
36,457,549
1,350,137
194,120
1,156,017
2,485
9,212
70,968
111,455
246,464
666,860
242,693
2007
36,553,213
1,299,685
191,025
1,108,660
2,260
6.2
9,013
70,542
109,210
237,025
652,243
219,392
2008
36,580,371
1,265,939
185,173
1,080,766
2,142
5.9
8,903
69,385
104,743
237,724
650,513
192,529
2009
36,961,664
1,184,367
174,934
1,009,433
1,972
5.3
8,713
64,093
100,156
230,198
615,402
163,833
2010
37,338,198
1,146,072
164,133
981,939
1,809
4.8
8,331
58,116
95,877
228,857
600,558
152,524
2011
37,691,912
1,128,845
154,944
973,901
1,792
7,663
54,292
91,197
230,090
596,963
146,848
Worth noting the dates CA implemented 3 Strikes and universal background checks.