1. Prototyping with industry WP5: Round Table Discussion
Paolo Michelato
INFN – LASA
AMICI Partner and Industry Days for Scientific Technology Infrastructure
Padua, May 18 – 19, 2017.

2. WP 5.4 (1/2)
Requirements and conditions for developing prototyping with the industry
The basic idea behind this task is that taking a leading role in the construction of prototypes for the Technological Infrastructures, can represent for industry a very effective way to acquire first-hand knowledge of cutting-edge technologies and to provide feedback on engineering aspects that are important for the following industrialization process.
Such early involvement can foster both the opportunities for industry to promote the development of new products and to test new/alternative solutions for mature technologies.

3. WP 5.4 (2/2)
Requirements and conditions for developing prototyping with the industry
The aim of this task is the definition, in cooperation with interested companies, of the basic requirements and conditions that can make it attractive, feasible and effective to engage companies in developing prototypes of accelerator components (or accelerator significant parts) or large superconducting magnets.
The prototype development could contribute in taking active large tooling or facilities developed for past projects available both at the RI/TI and a the industry and marginally or not involved at all after the project conclusion.

4. WP 5.4
Requirements and conditions for developing prototyping with the industry (INFN)
The industry develops prototypes in the facilities of the TI with close collaboration with TI personnel. (But could be also w/o!...)

5. WP 5.4
Requirements and conditions for developing prototyping with the industry (INFN)
The industry develops prototypes in the facilities of the TI with close collaboration with TI personnel. (But could be also w/o!...)
REQUEST
ITEMS
?MAN POWER? RI
Know How
INSTRUMENT +
TOOLS
MAN POWER … …
IDEA
MAN
POWER … …
MARKET
KNOW HOW … …
PRODUCTIVE SYSTEM
Industry
PRODUCT

6. A) Industries develops prototypes at the TI / RI (1/4)
Industry develops prototypes in the TI / RI.
Advantages for Industry
Gain more money
Knowledge growing
Access to first hand and extremely high quality know how
Access to already available high cost tooling / technologies not available in the industry due to high cost / high risk in buying and doing investment, in particular for small and medium-sized enterprises
Limited economical investment / low risk
More updated perception of future possible markets (general and accelerator fields)
Potential (beneficial) effects on future activities with the same RI/TI. (But see also the relative drawbacks, see slide 10 and 11) …

7. A) Industries develops prototypes at the TI / RI (2/4)
Industry develops prototypes in the TI / RI.
Advantages for RI / TI
More qualified manpower
Gain experience from industry (project management)
Gain money (?)
Technological transfer to the industry for future project
Use / maintain live high cost tooling / plants that are not often used or developed for past projects …

8. A) Industries develops prototypes at the TI / RI (3/4)
Industry develops prototypes in the TI / RI
Potential risk / complication / drawbacks for industry
Risk for RI / TI founding availability / reliability. Delays.
Complicated procedure for buying / call for tender (public buying).
Potential (negative) impacts on future activities with the same RI/TI (Buying, Call For Tender, etc. for administrative or legal motivations).
Co-working could be needed: shared responsibility!
Not direct / personal management of TI / RI personnel
Scheduling must be agreed with TI / RI, could be not fully under industry control …

9. A) Industries develops prototypes at the TI / RI (4/4)
Industry develop prototypes in the TI / RI
Potential risk / complication for RI / TI
Risk for founding availability / reliability of the company (?bankrupt)
Company personnel working in the RI / TI: safety, etc.
What happens at the end of activities about goods, tools, etc…
What happens at the end of activities about know how?
More difficult to manage for RI/ TI that have a distributed structure.
Legal and formal framework? Agreements (MoU, Contracts), Fund management, Cost sharing, Patents, Responsibilities, Safety, etc,

10. WP 5.4
Requirements and conditions for developing prototyping with the industry (INFN)
The industry develops prototypes in their facilities taking advantage of existing tool or other technical infrastructure not available in the TI, with / without collaboration with RI

11. WP 5.4
Requirements and conditions for developing prototyping with the industry (INFN)
The industry develops prototypes in their facilities taking advantage of existing tool or other technical infrastructure not available in the TI, with / without collaboration with RI RI
Know How
INSTRUMENT +
TOOLS
MAN POWER …
IDEA
Industry
MAN
POWER
PRODUCTIVE SYSTEM
KNOW HOW …
PRODUCT
MARKET
? COLLABORATION

12. B) Industries develops prototypes at their facilities (1/2)
Industry develop prototypes in their facilities, with the collaboration of RI / TI
Industry and RI / TI advantages
Reduced investment for RI/TI in high cost plants and tools that could have limited use in the RI / TI system at the end of the project
Reduced / cutout of cost of ownership for RI / TI for plants
Increased productivity of the plant / tool due to “private” management at the company
Plant full depreciation possible at the industry
RI / TI can help industry to find new markets …

13. B) Industries develops prototypes at their facilities (2/2)
Industry develop prototypes in their facilities, with the collaboration of RI / TI
Disadvantages / risks for industries
General business risk for the company
Potential (negative) impacts on future activities with the same RI/TI that collaborate with the industry (Buying, Call For Tender, etc. for administrative or legal motivations)
Who is the client? Research scenario could change!
Technological scenario could change: technology obsolescence. Plant full depreciation not possible.
No or limited market for the developed prototypes
Too rapid technology development: prototype / product is “old” for the market …
Legal framework? Patents, Agreements, etc.

14. How could we proceed? Carefully analyze / develop the legal framework
Analyze the reasons that could makes interesting for industry to develop prototypes for RI / TI.
Analyze past / current experience of industries that developed prototypes at RI / TI.
Successful results, failures
Analyze companies that already are producing prototypes of components for accelerators with/ without collaboration with RI / TI.
Organize periodic information meetings with industries about present/future projects, relative time schedule
Prepare a “catalog” of available infrastructures in Europe
European unique/common CF Tender regulation …