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1 Saints, Sinners and Same-Sex Marriages
Faculty of Theology 22/11/2016 Saints, Sinners and Same-Sex Marriages Negotiating Ecclesiological Identity in Church of England and the Evangelical Lutheran Church of Denmark Karen Marie Leth-Nissen 22 Nov 2016

2 CofE and ELCD: Old majority churches in geographical parishes
Faculty of Theology 22/11/2016 CofE and ELCD: Old majority churches in geographical parishes

3 Ecclesial church Societal church
22/11/2016 Faculty of Theology Ecclesial church Societal church light of the world (Matt. 5: 12-15) tradition order church attendance Ecclesial church wants the people to come to the church SAINTS ONLY salt of the earth (Matt. 5: 12-15) a national presence existentially open situations individual level - national level Societal church wants the church to come to the people. SAINTS AND SINNERS (Woodhead and Iversen 2017 forthcoming) Reformulation of Ernst Troeltsch’s (1911/1931/1960) church type or sectarian type of Christianity

4 Faculty of Theology 22/11/2016 Saints and sinners

5 Civil same sex marriages?
Faculty of Theology 22/11/2016 Civil same sex marriages?

6 CofE governance structure Ecclesial church Societal church
Faculty of Theology 22/11/2016 CofE governance structure Ecclesial church Societal church Parliament General Synod House of Bishops House of Clergy House of Laity No church… Public debate Anglican Communion - Lambeth Conferences Bishops as group Evangelicals Anglo-Catholics Liberals

7 Faculty of Theology 22/11/2016 Ecclesial church? 1,044,800 members on the Electoral Rolls (1.6 % of pop.) 150,000 lay members on the governing boards of the church Church attendance: 827,200 every Sunday. 79 % of the Electoral Roll members Affiliates: 28 % of the population (17,571,736)

8 ELCD governance structure
Faculty of Theology 22/11/2016 ELCD governance structure Ecclesial church Societal church Parliament Public debate Committees Inner Mission (right wing conservatives) Other stakeholders Tidehverv (Danish dialectical theology) Grundtvigians (broad church)

9 ELCD – Societal church? 77 % formal members of church
Faculty of Theology 22/11/2016 ELCD – Societal church? 77 % formal members of church 64 % infants baptized Societal (still) After same-sex marriages: wounds Innerchurch Church-people relationship

10 Price of interchurch unity National church is turning into a sect
Faculty of Theology 22/11/2016 CofE Price of interchurch unity National church is turning into a sect ELCD Price of innerchurch unity  National church is pulled even more towards societal church

11 Faculty of Theology 22/11/2016

12 Faculty of Theology 22/11/2016 Thank you!

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