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1 ARC-SC-agenda-January-2017
July 2009 doc.: IEEE /0840r0 ARC-SC-agenda-January-2017 Date: Authors: David Bagby, Calypso Ventures, Inc.

2 Agenda for: ARC SC, January 2017, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
doc.: IEEE /1455r0 Abstract Agenda for: ARC SC, January 2017, Atlanta, Georgia, USA David Bagby, Calypso Ventures, Inc.

3 IEEE 802.11 Architecture Standing Committee
July 2009 doc.: IEEE /0840r0 IEEE Architecture Standing Committee Agenda January 2017 session Chair: Mark Hamilton (Ruckus/Brocade) Vice Chair: Joe Levy (InterDigital) David Bagby, Calypso Ventures, Inc.

4 Wednesday, January 18th, AM1
July 2009 doc.: IEEE /0840r0 Wednesday, January 18th, AM1 David Bagby, Calypso Ventures, Inc.

5 Attendance, etc. Reminders to attendees:
July 2009 doc.: IEEE /0840r0 Attendance, etc. Reminders to attendees: Sign in for .11 attendance credit Noises off No recordings David Bagby, Calypso Ventures, Inc.

6 Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform
July 2009 doc.: IEEE /0840r0 Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform All participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants [Note: Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2]: “Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents “Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents) The above does not apply if the patent claim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged No duty to perform a patent search David Bagby, Calypso Ventures, Inc.

7 July 2009 doc.: IEEE /0840r0 Patent Related Links All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development. Patent Policy is stated in these sources: IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylaws IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual Material about the patent policy is available at If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at or visit This slide set is available at David Bagby, Calypso Ventures, Inc.

8 Call for Potentially Essential Patents
July 2009 doc.: IEEE /0840r0 Call for Potentially Essential Patents If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance: Either speak up now or Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or Cause an LOA to be submitted David Bagby, Calypso Ventures, Inc.

9 Participation in IEEE 802 Meetings
November 2016 doc.: ec EC Participation in IEEE 802 Meetings All participation in IEEE 802 Working Group meetings is on an individual basis •     Participants in the IEEE standards development individual process shall act based on their qualifications and experience. ( section 5.2.1) •    IEEE 802 Working Group membership is by individual; “Working Group members shall participate in the consensus process in a manner consistent with their professional expert opinion as individuals, and not as organizational representatives”. ( section 4.2.1) You have an obligation to act and vote as an individual and not under the direction of any other individual or group. Your obligation to act and vote as an individual applies in all cases, regardless of any external commitments, agreements, contracts, or orders. You shall not direct the actions or votes of any other member of an IEEE 802 Working Group or retaliate against any other member for their actions or votes within IEEE 802 Working Group meetings, see section and section 3.4.1, list item x By participating in IEEE 802 meetings, you accept these requirements. If you do not agree to these policies then you shall not participate. Dorothy Stanley, HP Enterprise

10 Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings
All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings. Technical considerations remain primary focus Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object. See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details.

11 ARC Agenda – January 2017 Wednesday, January 18, AM1
doc.: IEEE /1455r0 ARC Agenda – January 2017 Wednesday, January 18, AM1 Administrative: Minutes IEEE 1588 mapping to IEEE 802 activities IETF/802 coordination TGak update MIB attributes Design Pattern /0355r4 YANG/NETCONF modeling discussions – 11-16/1436r1 AP/DS/Portal architecture and 802 and GLK concepts /0136r0, 11-16/0720r0, 11-16/0457r1, 11-15/0454r0, 11-14/1213r1 (slides 9-11) Wednesday, January 18, PM1 MIB attributes Design Pattern (cont) YANG/NETCONF modeling discussions (cont) Future sessions / SC activities “What is an ESS?” Joint session with TGak, Thursday, January 19, AM1 Session with YANG experts, Thursday, January 19 PM1 David Bagby, Calypso Ventures, Inc.

12 Jan 2009 doc.: IEEE /1455r0 ARC Minutes November Minutes: David Bagby, Calypso Ventures, Inc.

13 IEEE 1588 mapping to IEEE Update (Mark Hamilton)

14 IEEE 802 activities directly related to IEEE 802.11 ARC
Update (Mark Hamilton) 802.1Q revision under consideration. Roll-in: IEEE Std Qcd-2015, IEEE Std 802.1Qca-2015, IEEE Std 802.1Q-2014 Cor , IEEE Std 802.1Qbv-2015, IEEE Std Qbu-2016, IEEE Std 802.1Qbz-2016 802.1AC published? (TBC) 802.11’s “up-down” view of “baggy pants” diagram: 11-17/0136r0, 11-16/1512r0

15 IETF/802 coordination Dorothy Stanley present topics of interest:
Multicast traffic features of From Dorothy’s IETF liaison report, Nov-2016 (11-16/1315r1): See Further actions: ietf mailing list has been established for ongoing discussion, will include additional 802. wireless groups, see Multicast considerations Internet draft describing use cases, issues, etc. under development, see Any update, or further action needed? IPv6 and IoT may add additional pressure: RFC 6775, Neighbor Discovery Optimization for IPv6 over Low-Power Wireless Personal Area Networks (6LoWPANs) defines a registration mechanism for accomplishing proxy ND: IoT and other applications motivating registration over discovery Other? Last IETF meeting: Nov Next meeting: March EC Standing Committee, next meeting: March plenary Updates of /.15 IETF Tutorial underway, joint work of Dorothy and Charlie: /0500r1

16 General Links Donald Eastlake present topics of interest from TGak and 802.1’s parallel work (802.1Qbz) Topics for joint session on Thursday 11-17/0136r0

17 Design Pattern for MIB attributes
The WG11 Chair has requested that the ARC SC investigate and create a Design Pattern for MIB attributes of the form “*Implemented” and “*Activated” Background:

18 Discussion on YANG/NETCONF models
We have a likely window now to make a change, if any, as we transition from REVmc to REVmd maintenance activities Submissions: Session on Thurs PM1 will have experts/interested individuals in attendance, to provide some background and perspective

19 Wednesday, January 18th, PM1

20 ARC Future Activities & sessions
ARC SC meets when a specific focused task is requested of the SC for which the is sufficient volunteer interest. Continue work on architectural models, and liaison with TGs in development of their architecture as appropriate Design Pattern for “*Implemented” and “*Activated” MIB attributes – Impacts of YANG/NETCONF decision? Consider YANG/NETCONF Will also follow 802.1/ activities on links, bridging, and MAC Service definition – “What is an ESS?”, for example Monitor/report on IETF/802 activities, as needed Monitor/report on IEEE 1588 activities, as needed If you have ANY other topic that you would like ARC SC to consider, contact the SC chair.

21 Planning for March 2017 Plan for two individual meeting slots
Usual slot on Wed AM1 Another slot for standalone ARC work (Monday/Tuesday?) Another slot joint with ak (Thursday’s slot)? Another slot (joint with 802.1?) on YANG/NETCONF? Individuals interested in ARC work are encouraged to also attend other TGak sessions, and AANI SC sessions Teleconferences: One in second half of February (14-20 or 21-27), avoiding TG face-to-face meetings, to discuss MIB Design Pattern topic May schedule other(s) with 10 days notice if discussion warrants

22 What is an ESS? Current definition depends on the relationship to LLC
“A set of one or more interconnected basic service sets (BSSs) that appears as a single BSS to the logical link control (LLC) layer at any station (STA) associated with one of those BSSs.” That would mean a Bridged LAN (for example) creates an ESS. Probably not what we (802.11) meant. We probably meant something about transparency of “location of attachment”/”mobility”, from whatever is using the MAC and other entities, necessary to accomplish this? ESS == demarcation of this transparency?? Is it: Transparent to whatever upper layer is above ? Includes entities beyond (above?) ? (Like bridges in the 11ak scenario?) The APs have to have some common/similar configuration settings? (SSID, at least. Probably other facilities (security, etc.) and policies?) Changes to Figure 4-1: ‘BSS’s are just STAs. These ovals are BSAs. Also, should we be saying “OBSA”?

23 What is an ESS? (Continued)
Current definition depends on the relationship to LLC “A set of one or more interconnected basic service sets (BSSs) that appears as a single BSS to the logical link control (LLC) layer at any station (STA) associated with one of those BSSs.” We probably meant something about transparency of “location of attachment”/”mobility”, from whatever is using the MAC 802 Services includes other entities, necessary to accomplish this? (EAP Auth Service? Bridges (11ak)? ANQP, etc?) ESS boundary == demarcation of this transparency?? Yes, + common domain of “mobility” that works, including security, policy, etc., necessary for mobility that actually works. Is it: Transparent to whatever upper layer is above ? No, boundary may be higher than that Includes entities beyond (above?) ? (Like bridges in the 11ak scenario?) Yes, as needed The APs have to have some common/similar configuration settings? (SSID, at least. Probably other facilities (security, etc.) and policies?) Yes. Changes to Figure 4-1: ‘BSS’s are just STAs. These ovals are BSAs. Also, should we be saying “OBSA”?

24 What is an ESS? – Direction?
Straw proposal - ESS is: [Edit this list, per discussion] Set of one of more basic services sets (BSSs) Appears as a single logical network, to layers above the ESS boundary The boundary might be above 802 (above Layer 2), or might be within Layer 2 (the MAC SAP, etc.) The boundary must exist/be clear for participating end stations (see 802 O&A), and external devices that can interwork with the participating end stations Provides transparency of “location of attachment” / “mobility”, as seen by layers above the ESS boundary, on both participating end stations and external end stations. Includes all entities necessary to provide the services and transparency required. Has a common domain of mobility and a common security and policies and configuration necessary to deliver the transparency from mobility.

25 AP/DS/Portal architecture and 802 concepts
Presentations on architectural description(s) Reference presentations (previously reviewed, current status of thinking):

26 Thursday, January 19th, AM1 Joint session with Tgak Review of “up-down” view of “baggy pants” diagram (TBC) See TGak for detailed agenda

27 Discussion of YANG/NETCONF
Thursday, January 19th, PM1 Session with experts Discussion of YANG/NETCONF Look at documents: 11-16/1436, new-mholness-yang-overview-0915-v03 Pro/Con considerations – Cost/Benefit? Tools? (including “mapping” tools?) Replace MIB or not? How do you manage the transition? Github publication, or published document? Examples of real-world use? Separate project, or in REVmd?


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