1. Bridging the Gap Scientists/Cavers
Buried Issues
How are views of the world of cavers and scientists different; the same?
Open communication between the two groups
Develop training sessions
Scientists to cavers; Cavers to scientists

2. Evolution General to Specific
WMD hydrogeologists interested in general concepts; just learning
2000s
Can put “arms around springshed”
Can put “fingers around mapped caves”
No further discussion

3. Data Form and Training
Develop more complete data form to be used by divers
Scientists/cavers develop form
Divers collect data, fill out form, supply scientists with data
FGS agreed to take lead

4. QA/QC Issues
Associated with form and data collection

5. Land Owner Confidentiality
Property rights and protection

6. Need for Additional Glossary
Is it needed?
If so, what terms need to be included?

7. Role in Watershed Management
How do we incorporate cave data?

8. Ideal state study site “block of Rock”
If needed, what would it look like and where would it be located

9. Issues not yet discussed
Continued development of database
Future technology
Potential to fund divers to collect data
Associated liability

10. Buried Issues (Better Interaction)
Educational Outreach
Scientists/cavers Cavers/Scientists
Organize meetings between groups
FGS to take lead
Develop “speakers bureau”
Scientists to attend Caver meetings
Scientists need to become more “entertaining”
FGS will try to coordinate

11. Buried Issues Develop message board
FGS to try to take lead (a workload?)

12. Data Form (To be filled out by willing cavers)
General
Time, date, weather
Physical (possible items; not all items)
Conduits/caves – size and shape
Features/morphology
Depth (ave, max)
Dist. of cave conduits
Mapping coordinates

13. Data Form Sediments (sand, clay,mud) Photographs
Geological formations (to some extent)
Fossils & Artifacts occurrence
Modern artifacts
Mineralization
Colors/staining
Breakdown
Cohesiveness of cave material
Domes and chimneys, vents and rooms
Trib. Arrangement

14. Data Form Flow Quality Stage (relative); in/out Velocity (dist/time)
Clarity/turbidity
Water color (blue, black, green, milky, “mung”
Stratification
Location of temp, color, WQ, Halocline change

15. Data Form Biological Metered analytes (need meter)
pH, T, cond, DO, density (?)
Water sample (need training)
Biological
DEP “form”
Vegetation at entrance

16. Form Miscel Training Sample – who for and what project
Location of sample collection
Training
Scientists will need to train cavers
Cavers/Scientists go to each others meetings
Caver meeting May 2004

17. QA/QC Adherence to QA/QC or sampling plans
Training by scientists needed
Keep divers “chain of command” to a minimum

18. Glossary Use current glossary (scientists to cavers)
Develop a second glossary (cavers to scientists)
As form develops into electronic format, a translator will be developed (S - C; C - S)

19. Ideal Site Goals and properties of site Test diving and science tech.
Adequate previous knowledge of system
Access to site somewhat controlled
Located near to cavers/researchers
Begin in one area and later move to others
Woodville Karst Plain (FGS define area)

20. Other Sites Man/Fan Eagles Nest Troy Weeki Itch Sulphur
Madison Blue Wekiwa
Peacock Rainbow
Beacon Woods Silver

21. Role in Watershed Man. Information from cavers is critical
Incorp. Locations of caves into WM Plans
Incorporate Caver Maps into “Science”
Will need QA

22. Confidentiality
Need letters of support for a legislative bill to protect land owner confidentiality
Panel developed draft letter of support
Other possible supporters
Hydroconsortium,
FAPG
NSS-CDS
Fla Museum of Nat. Hist.?

23. Future Technology