1. 802.24 Vertical Applications TAG
January 2017 Meeting
Atlanta, GA, USA
Tim Godfrey, EPRI

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Overview
Officers
TAG Chair: Tim Godfrey
Secretary & TAG Vice Chair: Ben Rolfe
Task Groups
Smart Grid TG Tim Godfrey
IoT TG Chris DiMinico
34 Voting Members
Agenda:
Meetings for the Week
Monday PM2
Tuesday PM2
Wednesday PM2 (2nd hour to join with TSN)
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3. Agenda - 24-17-0001-00-0000 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Agenda - January 2017, Atlanta, GA, USA 1
Monday PM2 session
1.1
Call session to order, present “Guidelines for IEEE SA meetings”, Quorum
Godfrey 5
4:00 PM
1.2
Review of Agenda / Approval of Agenda
4:05 PM
1.3
Introduction/meeting objectives
4:10 PM
1.4
Approve November TAG minutes
4:15 PM
1.5
Smart Grid Task Group
1.6
Review action items from previous meeting
4:20 PM
1.7
ITU and regulatory items
Godfrey/Holomb 10
4:30 PM
1.8
Discuss Liaison Relationship with OpenMobileAlliance regarding management objects and models for 802 15
4:45 PM
1.9
IEEE 802 5G Roadmap
1.10
Updating SGIP PAP2 Wireless Matrix 30
5:15 PM
1.11
Recess 2
Tuesday PM2 session
2.1
Call to Order
DiMinico
2.2
IoT Task Group business
2.3
Liaison Coordinator's Report
Diab 20
2.4
P2413 Liaison Report
Winkel
2.5
Review and plan IoT white paper development 45
4:40 PM
2.6
5:25 PM 3
Wednesday PM2 session
3.1
3.2
Liaison Report from P2030.5
Heile
3.3
Liaison Report from PES PSCC
3.4
closing - action items, plans
4:35 PM
3.5
Meet with TSN on White Paper for Time Sensitive Networks for Grid Modernization
Godfrey / Parsons 60
5:00 PM
3.6
Adjourn
6:00 PM
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6. Monday: 802.24 TAG Approve November minutes TAG Action Items:
TAG Action Items:
None
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7. Monday
Smart Grid TG
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8. ITU and Radio Regulatory Items
Item 1: Question 236 Draft revision of Report ITU-R SM
Complete
Item 2: Potential follow up on “beam forming” wireless power transfer at 2450 MHz.
No action needed.
Any other items from regulatory?
Including coexistence of license exempt technologies with licensed services.
60 GHz bands not of concern currently
can liaison with in reviewing document and forming a response.
No regulatory items related to currently known.
January Update
Nothing on ’s agenda related to smart grid or IoT.
FCC put out an NOI on 5th Gen cyber-security.
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9. IEEE 802 5G Roadmap
Paul Nikolich is participating in the IEEE 5G initiative as the SA and Computer Society representative. One of the tasks is to help lead the development of a Standards Roadmap.
What does '5G related' mean?  I've defined it as follows: 
Industry standards activities (within a ~5 year range initially) that map into three major 'next gen network (aka 5g)' usage scenarios:
a) Enhanced Mobile Broadband,
b) Ultra-reliable and low latency communications,
c) Massive machine type communications.
Each WG and TAG was asked to draft a paragraph
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10. IEEE 802 5G Roadmap - Draft paragraph for 802.24
The Vertical Applications TAG focuses on application categories that use IEEE 802 technology and are of interest to multiple IEEE 802 WGs. It develops white papers, presentations and other documents that describe the use of 802 standards in vertical applications. Currently, the TAG addresses the vertical application areas of Smart Grid and IoT. Both of these areas have strong alignment with Next Generation or 5G networks. Advanced Metering Infrastructure (AMI) is a prime example of massive machine type communications, with networks connecting millions of smart meters. Utilities currently operate control networks that provide ultra-reliable and low latency communications for SCADA and protection. These industries will have a strong interest in Next Generation networks that will provide additional options and performance improvements. Standards that enable flexible deployment and operation on both private infrastructure and commercial networks are particularly important. IEEE 802 standards support Smart Grid and IoT with different degrees of optimization for ultra-reliable and low latency communications and massive machine type communications. The TAG will continue to address these applications as "next gen network" standards are developed.
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11. Update of PAP2 Wireless Matrix
History:
Latest version r1
Update
can forward updates to SGIP, and request inclusion updated COS
Focus on updating the spreadsheet, and then align with ITU Q236.
3GPP has update the table for GSM and LTE into their response to question 236
Group consensus is to pursue an update to ITU, in the style of the 3GPP revision in document SP _SMART_GRID.doc.
There is no urgency to initiate an effort within SGIP for NISTIR 7761 at this time.
Requires external coordination beyond the scope of
Wireless Matrix Update Topic
Farroukh will check into which document was provided by 3GPP. Document to WP1a (under review). On Smart Grid.
Further updating standards for Q 236. Our last submission was accepted without changes. It was not on November agenda, and not an open issue that needs action. There is no current opportunity to update.
SGIP Study Group has been formed for NISTIR 7761 update, we will provide updated matrix for 802 standards.
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12. Update Plan Identify most recent version of matrix
Assess gaps and errors
Assign owners for updating (in coordination with WGs)
column
Tim Godfrey, Harry Bims.
Remove 16m
Add 16s, as it is expected to be completed before SGIP updates.
802.11ah – need reviewer (Yongho?)
column (Ruben Salazar)
Reviewed by group and updated in January meeting
– Column received from Apurva
Any drafts listed in matrix need to be publically available.
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13. Notes on Editing
Y23: Need to determine spectral efficiency and formula
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14. Sub-1GHz White Paper Publishing / Distribution Coordinate with IEEE
Smart Grid Web Pages
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15. Publicizing White Paper Releases
Press Releases
Standards association newsletter
External press releases
Emulate what 802.1, are doing
External publications, conferences, etc
Liaison reports to WGs
Include relevant details from external liaisons
Expand liaisons to and 802.3
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16. Monday IoT TG
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17. Tuesday:
Did not meet
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18. Wednesday
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19. Wednesday 802.24.1 Smart Grid TG
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20. Wednesday Items P2030.5 Liaison Update (Bob Heile)
No activity since November 2016 report
Discussion on IoT White Paper Draft r1
Liaison Update from PES PSCC
TSN White Paper Planning
Closing / action items
Adjourn to for TSN discussion 5:00
Buckhead Ballroom II
Action for January – find volunteers in for “drafting team”
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21. White paper on TSN
Ethernet operation to provide time bounded or deterministic services.
How can this be applied in utility applications?
Substation networks
Interconnection between LAN and WAN
The requirement comes from specific applications:
Starting point was Audio/Video, and industrial automation, and now entering automotive
Now the TSN capability is application agnostic
Automotive is an emerging application – replace CAN, Flexray, etc.
There is also ring topology for redundancy
Questions:
Is utility protection application considered for TSN?
Today there is some use of proprietary real-time Ethernet variants.
GOOSE protocols
Synchrophasor applications
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22. PSCC Liaison Report
The PES PSRC and Substation SCC have been reorganized and will become the PSCC (Power Systems Communications and Cybersecurity) committee. (Effective Jan 2017)
I attended the PSCC meeting and met with the leadership.
Chair: Mike Dood (Schweitzer Engineering Laboratories)
Vice Chair: Ken Fodero (Schweitzer Engineering Laboratories)
Secretary: Craig Preuss (Black and Veatch)
Established liaison between PSCC and / 802.1
PSCC will provide review and comments on TSN white paper (and further activities in their scope)
PSCC is interested in know about relevant activities in IEEE802 – would like a short report after 802 Plenaries.
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23. Power Systems Communication and Cyber Security Committee
Subcommittee P
P1 Revision of IEEE Std profile for the use of IEEE 1588 Precision Time Protocol
P2 Electric Power Systems Communications – Distributed Network Protocol (DNP3)
P3 Exchanging information between networks implementing IEC and IEEE Std 1815 (DNP3)
P5 Recommended Practice for Network Communications in Substations (P1516)
P6 Configuring Ethernet LAN Infrastructure
P7 Review of C37.94 (Optical Fiber Interfaces Between Teleprotection and Multiplexer Equipment)
P8 Standard mapping between C and IEC
P11 Transitioning to Cloud Computing, SDN, and NFV at electric power utilities
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24. Power Systems Communication and Cyber Security Committee
Subcommittee S
S2 Serial SCADA Protection Protocol (P1711.1)
S3 Interoperability of IPSEC within utility control systems
S4 Secure SCADA Communication Protocol (P1711.2)
S5 Extensions to Cyber Security Requirements for substations P&C Systems
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25. PSRC (Power Systems Relaying and Control Committee)
H Subcommittee – Relay Communications Subcommittee
H11 Synchrophasor Standards Working Group
H32 Performance Requirements for teleprotection over Ethernet
HTF41 Revision of IEEE 1646 Communications Delivery time performance requirements
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26. Plans for TSN white paper
IEC TC 57 Collaboration
TSN specified in through IEC
IPV6 is also being adopted into 61850
OPC Foundation, ODBA are adopting TSN (and also use 61850)
IEC TC57 is developing profiles for use of TSN.
Profiles for application domains.
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27. Outline of TSN white paper
Describe why TSN is needed in a utility
Define what “realtime” means in the context of specific grid use cases and applications
Describe how TSN works
Don’t focus on the standards themselves, but focus on basic capabilities.
Goal of low latency vs maximum worst case latency, and leading to zero congestion loss.
A new optimization, compared to best-effort packet world.
It is not just low latency, but bounded, deterministic worst case latency. That enables the application.
Shifting paradigm from acting on the packet to acting when the packet says to act.
Secondarily, ability to guard against equipment failure.
Informational material : 802.1Qbu, 802.3br, 802.1Qbv, 802.1Qat, 802.1Qca, CB, Qcc, Qch, Qci, Qcn, Qcr, AEcg
Discuss 802.1CM and BA, as an example of industry profiles for the use of TSN
Understand IEC activities and relationships
How standardized APIs are integrated into 61850
What is the set used for grid applications? Relate to IEC TC57 Profiles
Harmonization of TC65 (automation) with TC57 profiles
Explain relationships to time synchronization in 802.1AS
Profiles of IEEE 1588
Relationship to IETF DETNET
DETNET works over a routed network.
What is the opportunity for wireless standards to leverage? DETNET could take advantage.
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28. Next Steps How to collaborate between meetings Initial Draft
Use both reflector and reflector
Initial Draft
Tim will post previous slide as document on Mentor, and post a link on the reflectors.
Text contributions to the outline are requested
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29. 802.24 TAG closing Capture action Items from this meeting
Tim will post Reminder for contribution on IoT
Ludwig will post Word version r1
Any New Business?
Adjourn
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30. Tim Godfrey, EPRI

31. Future Opportunities Tracking (1)
white paper on IoT and P2413?
Maybe more towards completion of P2413?
Agnostic to underlying communications, but applicable to all 802 standards.
Highlight the relationship between P2413 and 802 standards.
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32. Future Opportunities Tracking (2)
ULI
Eventually, we can explain how it relates to the rest of 802, and better integration. Well defined ways of integrating.
Take this up when there is a draft
s SMR – spectrum management resources
Can provide an input with respect to Smart Grid or IoT?
IEC 65C WG 17 dealing with coexistence management and spectrum policy
ETSI TCRRS reconfigurable radio systems
ETSI TCERM WG 41 – defining a central coordination point to handle spectrum.
Sharing and increasing coexistence and providing better QoS
Coordinate with
Action Plan:
Coordinate with ULI initiative
4s resource management is defined, but now how they are used
White paper could cover how adaptation and resource management are accomplished.
Including use of metrics for management.
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33. Future Opportunities Tracking (3)
Are there any new utility industry activities or organizations that could benefit from a liaison to ?
Useful Output: Identify the use cases that the standards serve, and provide them to the industry.
That can then define who is an appropriate liaison
Need to educate and inform liaisons to gather needs and requirements with respect to IEEE 802 projects. Identify the tools we have available, and present the available toolbox.
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34. Other Future Opportunities
Monitor the LPWAN IG in to see where it goes (and links to IETF)
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