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7 October 2016 Webex IPv6 over the TSCH mode of IEEE 802.15.4e Chairs:
Pascal Thubert Thomas Watteyne Etherpad for minutes:
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Agenda Administrivia [2min] IETF Update (chairs) [5min]
Agenda bashing Approval minutes from last meeting IETF Update (chairs) [5min] Meeting time, template, agenda Update on Security [Michael] [5min] Update on 6top [Thomas] [20min] Next steps for SF0 [Pascal] [30min] AOB [1min] 4 4 4 4 4
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Administrivia
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Admin is trivia Approval Agenda Approval minutes 6 6 6 6
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Quick summary by Pascal?
Meeting 9 September 2016 Minutes at ietf-coord/current/msg00851.html Quick summary by Pascal?
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IETF Update
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IETF update Minimal draft: Suresh in the middle of the AD evaluation review; expecting update mail soon (like today) LPWAN approved at IESG internal review 6LoRH progressing smoothly at IESG specification required’ may also require designated IETF expert review Routing dispacth at telechat on 10/27 2 drafts in adoption call at 6lo (please participate!) draft-hong-6lo-use-cases draft-sarikaya-6lo-ap-nd 9 9 9 9
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Update on security Michael Richardson
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Update on 6top Thomas Watteyne, all
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Proposed Methodology Tickets capture the proposal
A thread is started on ML Bug scrub during interim: Go through list of issues agree on what to do Results published on ML, 48h period to disagree If consensus: Results captured in ticket Ticket reassigned to editor Editor fixes in draft When draft published, ticket closed 5/29/2018
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Overview assigned&status=reopened&component=6top-protocol 13 13 13 13
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Ticket #43 - 6P CLEAR command should cause both node to clear cells
In 02#section-4.3.6: Clearing the Schedule When a 6P CLEAR command is issued from node A to node B, both nodes A and B MUST remove all the cells scheduled between them. That is, node A MUST remove all transmit and receive cells with node B, and node B MUST remove all transmit and receive cells with node A. In a 6P CLEAR command, the generation counters GAB and GBA MUST NOT be checked. That is, their value is "don't care". In particular, even if a schedule generation mismatch is detected, it MUST NOT cause the transaction to abort. OK to close? 14 14 14 14
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Ticket #45 - details missing on error codes
[Tengfei] error codes not detailed enough. What does RC_ERROR mean? [Dale] exact error code returned can be implementation specific. [light disagreement from Qin and Xavi] [Tengfei] what does "reset a transaction" mean? [response from Xavi] [Tengfei] don't use RC_ERR directly in text 15 15 15 15
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Ticket #45 - details missing on error codes
Proposal 1: About RC_ERROR: don’t have the draft return that error code returned, it’s too generic Only a single 6P Transaction between two neighbors, in a given direction, can take place at the same time. That is, a node MUST NOT issue a new 6P Request to a given neighbor before having received the 6P Response for a previous request to that neighbor. The only exception to this rule is when the previous 6P Transaction has timed out. If a node receives a 6P Request from a given neighbor before having sent the 6P Response to the previous 6P Request from that neighbor, it MUST send back a 6P Response with a return code of RC_ERR. Change for RC_ERR_RESET? A new error code? 16 16 16 16
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Ticket #45 - details missing on error codes
Proposal 2: In case the receiver of a 6top request fails during a 6P Transaction and is unable to complete it, it SHOULD reply to that request with a 6P Response with return code RC_ERR_RESET. Upon receiving this 6top reply, the initiator of the 6P Transaction MUST consider the 6P Transaction as failed. Per RFC793: Reset Generation As a general rule, reset (RST) must be sent whenever a segment arrives which apparently is not intended for the current connection. A reset must not be sent if it is not clear that this is the case. Proposal: add this text in draft? 17 17 17 17
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Ticket #46 - add LinkOptions flags to 6P messages
Proposal: add a bitmap of flags to a 6P ADD command so that a node can schedule both TX and RX cells to its neighbor, possibly shared. Question: where At beginning of each 6P cell format? ( 6top-protocol-02#section-4.2.5) At beginning of just the 6P ADD ( 6top-protocol-02#section-4.2.6) Clarifications What is the reference for RX or TX? 18 18 18 18
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Next steps for SF0 Pascal, all
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ISSUE management A number of issues discussed at 10/23 interim
Pascal’s understanding was Diego starts threads and Pascal enters issues from threads Status: threads not started 20 20 20 20
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ISSUES Cell allocation Use of shared cells, flexibility
Timeout calculation Use of acronyms? Use of metadata Outband bandwidth calculation the term bandwidth is confusing. Is it a number of packets per second? per frame? a number of cells? Is using bandwidth+PDR the right way? Wouldn’t cells me simpler? 21 21 21 21
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Evaluation SF0 is critical to the performance of 6TiSCH (~OF in RPL)
We need to find a balance between: It’s simple It performs reasonably well The draft must contain elements that show that “it works” Difference between std track and experimental “Performance Evaluation” section Simulations (e.g. on 6TiSCH simulator Experimentation (e.g. on OpenWSN Analysis? That could contain a “call for performance evaluation” in some version 22 22 22 22
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AOB ?
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draft-satish-6tisch-6top-sf1-02
Published Aug 3 Do authors want to present at interim call? At IETF97? 24 24 24 24
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next webex Thomas cannot attend Oct 21 Proposal: move to oct 28? 25 25
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Thank you!
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