Download presentation
Presentation is loading. Please wait.
Published byLenard Daniels Modified over 6 years ago
1
Implementation of ARIN's Lame DNS Delegation Policy
Edward Lewis Research Engineer ARIN
2
Abstract The membership of ARIN has approved a policy to curb lame delegations The staff is implementing it and has already seen a reduction This presentation will outline the policy, results, and how ARIN is interacting with registrants and registries June 3, 2003 NANOG 28
3
Background MAR 2002 – Proposed on ARIN ppml (list)
APR 2002 – Discussion at ARIN IX JUN 2002 – Measured extent of problem SUM 2002 – Discussion on lists OCT 2002 – Discussion at ARIN X NOV 2002 – Policy adopted DEC 2002 – Implementation activity begins June 3, 2003 NANOG 28
4
Policy Summary June 3, 2003 NANOG 28
5
Policy Summary Four Phases June 3, 2003 NANOG 28
6
Policy Summary Four Phases Test June 3, 2003 NANOG 28
7
Policy Summary Four Phases Test Identify Lame Delegation June 3, 2003
NANOG 28
8
Policy Summary Four Phases Test Attempt Contact
Identify Lame Delegation June 3, 2003 NANOG 28
9
Policy Summary Four Phases Test Attempt Contact
Identify Lame Delegation the network POC June 3, 2003 NANOG 28
10
Policy Summary Four Phases Test Attempt Contact
Identify Lame Delegation the network POC If No Contact Proceed to Next Step June 3, 2003 NANOG 28
11
Policy Summary Four Phases Test Attempt Contact
Identify Lame Delegation the network POC the ASN POC June 3, 2003 NANOG 28
12
Policy Summary Four Phases Test Attempt Contact
Identify Lame Delegation the network POC the ASN POC If No Contact Proceed to Next Step June 3, 2003 NANOG 28
13
Policy Summary Four Phases Test Attempt Contact
Identify Lame Delegation the network POC the ASN POC Telephone the network or ASN POC June 3, 2003 NANOG 28
14
Policy Summary Four Phases Test Attempt Contact
Identify Lame Delegation the network POC the ASN POC Telephone the network or ASN POC If No Contact Proceed to Next Step June 3, 2003 NANOG 28
15
Policy Summary Four Phases Test Attempt Contact
Identify Lame Delegation the network POC the ASN POC Telephone the network or ASN POC Postal Mail the network or ASN POC June 3, 2003 NANOG 28
16
Policy Summary Four Phases Test Attempt Contact
Identify Lame Delegation the network POC the ASN POC Telephone the network or ASN POC Postal Mail the network or ASN POC If No Contact Proceed to Next Step June 3, 2003 NANOG 28
17
Policy Summary Four Phases Test Attempt Contact Evaluate
Identify Lame Delegation the network POC the ASN POC Telephone the network or ASN POC Postal Mail the network or ASN POC June 3, 2003 NANOG 28
18
Policy Summary Four Phases Test Attempt Contact Evaluate
Identify Lame Delegation the network POC the ASN POC Telephone the network or ASN POC Postal Mail the network or ASN POC Wait 30 Days June 3, 2003 NANOG 28
19
Delegation Declared Lame
Policy Summary Four Phases Test Attempt Contact Evaluate Identify Lame Delegation the network POC the ASN POC Telephone the network or ASN POC Postal Mail the network or ASN POC Wait 30 Days Delegation Declared Lame June 3, 2003 NANOG 28
20
Delegation Declared Lame
Policy Summary Four Phases Test Attempt Contact Evaluate Remove Delegation Identify Lame Delegation the network POC the ASN POC Telephone the network or ASN POC Postal Mail the network or ASN POC Wait 30 Days Delegation Declared Lame June 3, 2003 NANOG 28
21
Delegation Declared Lame
Policy Summary Four Phases Test Attempt Contact Evaluate Remove Delegation Identify Lame Delegation the network POC the ASN POC Telephone the network or ASN POC Postal Mail the network or ASN POC Remove NS Delegations Update WHOIS Record Delegation Determined to be Lame Evaluation Date of the Lame Delegation Contact has been Attempted Unsuccessfully Date Record Updated Wait 30 Days Delegation Declared Lame Update Record June 3, 2003 NANOG 28
22
Lame Delegation Test Query for SOA record of zone
Try all IP addresses for each server of zone In response, flag as lame if: No Authoritative Answer (AA) bit set AA bit set, but an empty answer section AA bit set, but answer is not an SOA record June 3, 2003 NANOG 28
23
What is Not Flagged Not flagged as lame in this round of testing:
No IP address for name server No answer from server This will be flagged in the future June 3, 2003 NANOG 28
24
Timeline Notify Network POC Notify Autonomous System POC 4-6 Mar
1st Notice 18-20 Mar 2nd Notice 15 Feb Test 13 Mar Test 27 Mar Test Notify Autonomous System POC 15 May Notice 12 May Test 30 May Test June 3, 2003 NANOG 28
25
Zone Results bounce! Zones Checked Flagged for Lameness 13 Feb 198,213
55,281 27 Mar 35,944 12 May 28,735 30 May 34,625 bounce! June 3, 2003 NANOG 28
26
Server Results 13 Feb findings, percentage of servers
77% not flagged as lame (good OR no address/answer) 19% Authoritative Answer bit set to 0 4% with empty answer section <1% with a non-SOA answer (CNAME) June 3, 2003 NANOG 28
27
Notification Results Telephone Email 1st Notice 125 119 2nd Notice 91
141 3rd Notice - approx. 150 calls in first few days June 3, 2003 NANOG 28
28
Help Desk Actions Determine the problem/exact question
Use “Lame” tool, BIND’s dig tool Review results with registrant Explain expected results Walk through steps to correct ARIN DB entry Refer registrant for further assistance: Their local support Vendor of their name server BIND documentation (if using a BIND server) June 3, 2003 NANOG 28
29
Observations People are interested This will be a deliberate process
Want to correct problem Want to know what this is about Based on feedback from community: This will be a deliberate process June 3, 2003 NANOG 28
30
Next Steps Continue notification as per policy
Update database information Continue testing for lameness Identify engineering issues with testing Identify implementation issues Share experiences with other registries June 3, 2003 NANOG 28
31
Addresses Discussions of lame delegations are happening in other regions too APNIC SIG on DNS issues <sig-dns.lists.apnic.net> RIPE DNS Working Group <dns-wg.ripe.net> Tool-specific mailing lists My address: June 3, 2003 NANOG 28
32
Thank You
Similar presentations
© 2025 SlidePlayer.com. Inc.
All rights reserved.