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Monday July 9, 2001 Morning ad hoc
5GSG Portland, Oregon Monday July 9, 2001 Morning ad hoc Bruce Kraemer, Intersil
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July 2001 Ad hoc Introduction Meeting notice posted to reflector >30 days in advance of meeting Relatively informal time to discuss recent events Time for straw polls – no binding conclusions Allows extra time to prepare for opening Plenary Allows time to transition/orient leadership and membership All in attendance have right to vote Bruce Kraemer, Intersil
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Recent Event List IEEE 802.11 Orlando (May 14-18, 2001)
July 2001 Recent Event List IEEE Orlando (May 14-18, 2001) 5GWLIAG Helsinki (June 12 , 2001) BRAN #24 Sophia Antipolis (June , 2001) Phone discussion (July 2 , 2001) Bruce Kraemer, Intersil
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July 2001 Portland Objectives 5 GHZ GLOBALIZATION STUDY GROUP ( BRUCE K/ Jamshid K.) - Review presentations and comments from June IAG meetings - Review output of June ETSI BRAN#24 - Review future meeting dates and critical milestones - Review Leadership team - Review TGj PAR & 5 criteria prior to Excom presentation - Review impact of HCF on Interworking proposals - Establish Decision process for a new "IEEE Task Group J" & the ETSI BRAN 5GHz Alignment Rapporteur Group - Create or Extend study group to allow pursuit of harmonized 5GHz standards - Refine draft of 5WIING Operating Procedure, Terms and Definitions, Relationship diagram &schedules - Prepare for September IEEE and ETSI meetings in Seattle Bruce Kraemer, Intersil
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July 2001 Monday am – ad hoc Bruce Kraemer, Intersil
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5GHz Study Group Original Intent International effort IEEE, ETSI, MMAC
July 2001 5GHz Study Group Original Intent Standard Harmonization - Single Global Standard for 5GHz WLANs International effort IEEE, ETSI, MMAC Interim Objective Interworking mechanism Interworking Proposal Concepts Legacy backward compatibility maintained Approaches so far based upon superframes using either DCF or PCF HCF now being investigated Likely to have no impact on Client, AP implementation only Future plan 5GHz Partnership Project now called 5WING Bruce Kraemer, Intersil
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IEEE Hilton Head Accomplishments March 12-16,2001 Motions:
July 2001 IEEE Hilton Head Accomplishments March 12-16,2001 Motions: PProposed that we extend the 5GSG to the next joint plenary. Motion passed in study group 36/0/0 Motion passed in plenary 74/6/4 PProposed that we pursue the creation of a 5GHzPP as a vehicle for establishing a single global standard. Motion passed in study group 23/0/1 PPAR document ( ) passed in plenary 41/8/17 P5 Criteria document ( ) passed in plenary 42/6/13 Bruce Kraemer, Intersil
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9. Scope of Proposed Project:
July 2001 9. Scope of Proposed Project: Establish coexistence and inter-working among the a, ETSI HiperLAN/2, MMAC CSMA and HiSWANa standards. Extension of each of the MAC and PHY layers of these standards will be defined collaboratively to achieve coexistence and inter-working. 10. Purpose of Proposed Project: To establish coexistence and inter-working among the a, ETSI HiperLAN/2, MMAC CSMA and HiSWANa standards. A subsequent project under a separate PAR is to create a single converged standard in the 5GHz band. Bruce Kraemer, Intersil
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BRAN #24 European Telecommunications Standards Institute
July 2001 BRAN #24 European Telecommunications Standards Institute BRAN# June to 29 June 2001 Sophia-Antipolis, France Executive Summary - BRAN24d141 1. Defer decision to continue/discontinue the Inter-working project until after the IEEE meeting in Portland. It was noted that both BRAN and IEEE will be meeting during the same week in September in Seattle and a joint meeting at that time would be desirable and presumably easy to arrange. Bruce Kraemer, Intersil
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Tentative Schedule for 5WING SG
July 2001 Tentative Schedule for 5WING SG Operational Procedures IEEE May: Prepare material (e.g. relationship diagram) and kick-off discussion BRAN#24/IEEE July: initial submissions IEEE Sep/BRAN#25: first draft prepared for circulation Project Requirements Definition IEEE Nov/BRAN#26: initial submissions IEEE Jan 2002/BRAN#27: first draft prepared for circulation Terms of Reference Bruce Kraemer, Intersil
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BRAN 24d141 – How as the WLAN Market evolved?
July 2001 BRAN 24d141 – How as the WLAN Market evolved? 1. A general discussion ensued as to what has happened in the WLAN market over the last quarter that may influence the answer to Jamshid’s question: a. Wi-Fi (.11b) is selling faster than anyone expected particularly in the US but also in the rest of the world b. Due to the high penetration if Wi-Fi it will be difficult to omit backward compatibility with .11b when new products are introduced c. The market progression has been from the enterprise to SOHO and most recently Hot Spots such as airports, hotels, coffee shops, … d. The market drivers have been: i. Enterprise – usable data rates, ease of installation (no wires!), mobility ii. Home – spreading of broadband access, ease of installation, low cost iii. Hot Spots – ease of installation, low cost, profit potential, emergence of WISP aggregators such as GRIC e. The consensus expressed at the WECA meeting in Helsinki on 6-13,14 seemed to be that because of the perceived backward compatibility requirement new 5GHz products will likely be dual band (2.4 and 5 GHz) after the initial wave of 5GHz only products f. The multi-band solution scenario will impact .11b/.11a, H2/.11b, TGg, H2/.11a product definitions g. Andy Gowen noted that 2.4 GHz WLAN products are not legally used in public spaces UK. h. Telecom operators will resist the development of networked WLAN Hot Spot which begin to look like WANs Bruce Kraemer, Intersil
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BRAN 24d141 – How did Interworking evolve?
July 2001 BRAN 24d141 – How did Interworking evolve? “Why did IEEE authorize a task group, TGj, dedicated to developing an IW recommended practice given the apparent lack of interest?” Garth reviewed the history of how 5GSG bifurcated into TGj and 5WING with the bottom line being that in order to retain interest in the 5GS it was felt that a short term interim project needed to be identified and, IW was a good candidate because much of the work to define an IW standard could be reused in the 5GS project. Neither H2 nor .11a will likely be the final WLAN standard and probably the most important work activity going forward is to set up a framework to develop global standards and then apply that framework to developing the 5GSG. Bruce Kraemer, Intersil
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Portland, Oregon 802 Plenary Meeting July 9-13, 2001
5GSG Portland, Oregon 802 Plenary Meeting July 9-13, 2001 Bruce Kraemer, Intersil
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July 2001 5GSG Agenda Graphic Bruce Kraemer, Intersil
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July 2001 Portland Objectives 5 GHZ GLOBALIZATION STUDY GROUP ( BRUCE K/ Jamshid K.) - Review presentations and comments from June IAG meetings - Review output of June ETSI BRAN#24 - Review future meeting dates and critical milestones - Review Leadership team - Review TGj PAR & 5 criteria prior to Excom presentation - Review impact of HCF on Interworking proposals - Establish Decision process for a new "IEEE Task Group J" & the ETSI BRAN 5GHz Alignment Rapporteur Group - Create or Extend study group to allow pursuit of harmonized 5GHz standards - Refine draft of 5WIING Operating Procedure, Terms and Definitions, Relationship diagram &schedules - Prepare for September IEEE and ETSI meetings in Seattle Bruce Kraemer, Intersil
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5GHz Study Group Original Intent International effort IEEE, ETSI, MMAC
July 2001 5GHz Study Group Original Intent Standard Harmonization - Single Global Standard for 5GHz WLANs International effort IEEE, ETSI, MMAC Interim Objective Interworking mechanism Interworking Proposal Concepts Legacy backward compatibility maintained Approaches so far based upon superframes using either DCF or PCF HCF now being investigated Likely to have no impact on Client, AP implementation only Future plan 5GHz Partnership Project now called 5WING Bruce Kraemer, Intersil
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Monday Evening * Consent items
July 2001 Monday Evening * Consent items Times shown are for guidance. Agenda shall be adopted as a General order. Bruce Kraemer, Intersil
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Portland Agenda Times shown are for guidance.
July 2001 Portland Agenda Times shown are for guidance. Agenda shall be adopted as a General order. Bruce Kraemer, Intersil
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5GHz Study Group Original Intent International effort IEEE, ETSI, MMAC
July 2001 5GHz Study Group Original Intent Standard Harmonization - Single Global Standard International effort IEEE, ETSI, MMAC Interim Objective Interworking mechanism Interworking Proposals Legacy backward compatibility maintained AT&T, Philips, Ericsson, hLAN, NEC, U of Aachen, Comprise, Magis Principal approach so far based upon superframes using either DCF or PCF No impact on Client, AP implementation only Future plan 5GHz Partnership Project now called 5WING Bruce Kraemer, Intersil
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5GHz Standardization Roadmap
July 2001 5GHz Standardization Roadmap IW additions IEEE a (wireless Ethernet) IEEE e/f/h (QoS, Security, DFS/TPC, ..) Joint SG Requirements Coexistence Inter-working Spectrum 5GPP Partnership Project (BRAN/IEEE/MMAC) Inter-working Standards Revisions single global standard 5GWIAG BRAN-HL/2 (wireless ATM, IP) Home Profile HE phase2 UMTS - interworking Public Access IW additions 2000 2001 MMAC also participating Today Bruce Kraemer, Intersil
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History of 5GSG Formation Scottsdale, Sept 18-22, 2000
July 2001 History of 5GSG Formation Scottsdale, Sept 18-22, 2000 1.2. New Business 1.2.1. 5GHz global Standardization and Convergence Rich Kennedy (Compaq) The 5GHz wireless LAN industry advisory group addresses the problems at 5GHz. Trying to avoid multiple standards in the same space. Looking for industry consensus to achieve global standardization in the 5GHz band. Request an Study Group to address these issues. Motion to extend the meeting time of the opening plenary to 10:15AM. Moved Harry Worstell Seconded Frank Howley Passes by consensus without objection Motion to create a study group under for a 5GHz globalization, with coordination with ETSI and MMAC Moved Ivan Reede Seconded Peter Murray Discussion How could this study group respond in the desired timeframe? The intent is to start the organization moving towards convergence. The 60 days is to get similar study groups established in the other organizations, not to complete the work. Vote Passes 29:5:0 Nomination of Chair for this study group. Nomination of Rich Kennedy Source: Doc Bruce Kraemer, Intersil
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History of 5GSG Formation Scottsdale, Sept 18-22, 2000
July 2001 History of 5GSG Formation Scottsdale, Sept 18-22, 2000 Closing Plenary 1.14. 5GHz Globalization SG Closing Report; Rich Kennedy 1.1.1. Objectives (while waiting for approval of corresponding SGs by ETSI-BRAN and MMAC, etc.) Choose name for group Explain how this effort differs from SMa SG Select secretary Report back to 5WLIAG Meet with ETSI-BRAN and MMAC Source: Doc Bruce Kraemer, Intersil
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History of 5GSG Formation Tampa, Nov 6-10, 2000
July 2001 History of 5GSG Formation Tampa, Nov 6-10, 2000 Task Group reports • 5GHz Globalization Study Group – The Study Group was formed after the contingencies of forming similar study groups at ETSI and MMAC were fulfilled. • Bruce Kraemer was appointed Vice Chair • Garth Hillman was appointed Secretary – The working group directed this SG to produce comments on the low speed PAR, and the WirelessHUMAN PAR. – The study group drafted a proposal to IEEE 802 to come up with coexistence and spectrum sharing guidelines that will be reviewed before new PARs can be granted in the 5GHz band. Source: LMSC minutes – November 9, 2000 Bruce Kraemer, Intersil
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History of 5GSG Formation La Jolla, July 10-14, 2000
IEEE P Wireless LANs To: Mr Jamshid Khun-Jush, Chairman, ETSI Project BRAN Date: July 13, 2000 Subject: re: IEEE P request to ETSI for considering the adoption of the IEEE P802.11a 5 GHz Wireless LAN standard as a member of HIPERLAN family of standards Dear ETSI BRAN Officers and Members, Thank you for your advice that considerations regarding several areas are needed for EP BRAN to be able to make an assessment on the further handling of the IEEE P request that the IEEE P802.11a 5 GHz Wireless LAN standard be adopted as a member of HIPERLAN family of standards. These areas include regulatory, application and technical aspects. Unfortunately the arrival of the liaison letter right at the end of the May meeting precluded its consideration until the July Plenary, and consequently we missed the opportunity to arrange attendance at the June BRAN meeting by an delegation. We would be pleased to attend at the next available meeting, which we understand is in Stresa during October 3-6, 2000, to pursue a path to resolving the matters raised in your letter. We extend an invitation to BRAN members to attend any future IEEE meetings, details of which are available on the IEEE 802 website ( The next meeting will be in Scottsdale, Arizona, September 18-22, We also suggest that we explore the possibility of a joint ETSI BRAN/IEEE meeting in the coming year. The IEEE WG is working to address the key points raised in your liaison letter. In particular, the matters of TPC and DFS are being studied in TGe (MAC Enhancement) and an Ad Hoc Group has been established to consider the harmonisation of existing standards towards adoption of a single global standard. It is anticipated that the Ad Hoc Group will identify overlapping services and applications as well as look at issues of coexistence of the different standards. We anticipate that representations from the Ad Hoc Group will be made during the BRAN#20 meeting in Stresa. On the matter of IPR, IEEE P has obtained letters of assurance that owners of all IPR known to us will provide on request licenses without discrimination and for a reasonable fee. These letters ensure that all known IPRs were addressed in sufficient time to avoid the IEEE family of standards being blocked at a later stage by the refusal of these IPR owners to grant licenses. As per your request, a full set of documentation, including standards IEEE (1999), IEEE a and the set of IPR letters are provided as attachments to this liaison. Sincerely, Stuart Kerry, Chairman IEEE P802.11 Source: Doc Bruce Kraemer, Intersil
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Schedule of Standards Meetings
July 2001 Schedule of Standards Meetings May 8-9 – H2GF – Princeton May – IEEE –Orlando June IAG - Helsinki June – BRAN#24 – Sophia Antipolis July 9-13 – IEEE – Portland Sept – IEEE – Seattle Sept – BRAN#25 – Seattle Nov – IEEE – Austin Dec. 4-7 – BRAN#26 – Sophia Antipolis Bruce Kraemer, Intersil
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5GSG Portland Session Documents
July 2001 5GSG Portland Session Documents 5GSG Committee Report r0,r1 5GSG Joint Plenary Report ???r0 5GSG Closing Plenary Report r0 5GSG Minutes r0 Altman Submission ???r0 Mangold/Choi Submission r0a Bruce Kraemer, Intersil
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