1. 802.24 Vertical Applications TAG
May 2016 Meeting
Waikoloa, Hawaii, USA
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Overview
Officers
TAG Chair: Tim Godfrey
Secretary & TAG Vice Chair: Ben Rolfe
Task Groups
Smart Grid TG Tim Godfrey
IoT TG Chris DiMinico
37 Voting Members
Agenda:
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Tuesday PM2
Wednesday PM2 (cancelled unless new business)
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6. Monday: 802.24 TAG Approve March minutes Action Items:
Action Items:
None
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7. Monday
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8. New Liaisons and Industry Activity relevant to 802.24.1
Are there any new utility industry activities or organizations that could benefit from a liaison to ?
Useful Output: Identify the use cases that the standards serve, and provide them to the industry.
That can then define who is an appropriate liaison
Need to educate and inform liaisons to gather needs and requirements with respect to IEEE 802 projects. Identify the tools we have available, and present the available toolbox.
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9. 802C and 802.15 LLC (ULI) New Topic:
802C and LLC (ULI) and implications on overall network integration of 802 for grid applications
Incorporation of
What is needed at layer 2 to enable routing at layer 3?
How is 6lowpan applied? E.G. in WiSUN.
Is there a value to develop a white paper?
It may be too early – there is not a clear direction yet.
Address mapping issue – or it may be passed to higher layers.
This may tie into deterministic networking topic and prioritized delivery.
Multicast – mapping IP onto 802 network. (relation to d ?)
Multicast for that doesn’t have explicit multicast
Better convergence and support for IP.
Action Plan
Consider specific inputs. Make a submission now to provide input to PAR
Plan to submit comments on PAR
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10. Discussion on ULI
Eventually, we can explain how it relates to the rest of 802, and better integration. Well defined ways of integrating.
Take this up when there is a draft.
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11. Spectrum topics 802.15.4s SMR – spectrum management resources
Can provide an input with respect to Smart Grid or IoT?
IEC 65C WG 17 dealing with coexistence management and spectrum policy
ETSI TCRRS reconfigurable radio systems
ETSI TCERM WG 41 – defining a central coordination point to handle spectrum.
Sharing and increasing coexistence and providing better QoS
Coordinate with
Action Plan:
This fits into the ULI initiative.
4s resource management is defined, but now how they are used
White paper could cover how adaptation and resource management are accomplished.
Including use of metrics for management.
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12. Cellular comparisons
White paper on NB-LTE, Cellular IoT, LTE-U vs IEEE 802 standards in smart grid applications.
Technical comparisons
Potential coexistence issues
Matt Gillmore
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13. Cellular comparisons white paper outline
Types of applications that are considered in the white paper
Survey of existing and emerging technologies used by cellular operators
3G, 4G, 5G (broadband and C-IoT and NB-LTE variants, LAA, LTE-U)
Understand how new technologies focused on IoT are differentiated and how they relate to 802 standards
Survey of IEEE 802 wireless technologies used for grid applications
802.11, , ,
Refer to existing white paper, and PAP2
Matrices of differences (maybe, but not exclusively pros and cons)
Data volume
Security considerations (link vs application layer)
Do we have sufficient information on commercial cellular security?
Reliability and availability
Availability of SLAs, QoS, and other service level considerations
Management and metrics
Provisioning and device deployment
Operational expense vs capital expense considerations
Unlicensed vs licensed spectrum
Potential coexistence issues
Further explanation and notes on matrix
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14. General discussion
White paper doesn’t try to make a recommendation or judgement, but provides facts
Targeted towards vendors and user of the standards
Industrial automation is also considering 3G, 4G, and 5G option.
Actions:
Review outline and comment
Tuesday, seek volunteers for paragraph contributions
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15. Tuesday
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16. Review Cellular comparisons white paper outline
Volunteers for sections of text
Ludwig can provide reference to Industrial Automation (Industry 4.0) requirements.
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17. P2413 IoT Framework Liaison Report
Liaison with IIC is working on aligning use cases. Cooperating with GTC1 WG10 IoT framework.
Draft of P2413 is progressing.
Discussion - Value of white paper on IoT and P2413?
Maybe more towards completion of P2413? Agnostic to underlying communications.
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18. P2030.5 Liaison Report Working on revision to P2030.5-2013
Focused on new essential functionality for Rule 21 in CA. Smart Inverters and charging stations.
Also addressing CCBs from ZigBee SEP2
Timeline:
Goal – Sponsor Ballot in Sept 2016.
Weekly editors calls to work on draft
Non-IEEE aspect - Certification program
CSEP had previously develop test and cert plan, but CSEP ended.
P will re-establish certification programs
Some updating of CSEP test plan will be required
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19. Development of sub 1 GHz White Paper
Draft from March: r5
Open Areas:
Sub-1GHz Applications Open
Global regulatory environment John Notor?
Need text or a reference to external sources for pros and cons of mesh vs repeater Open (in process)
Updates from May meeting in r6
r7 On the server
Updates Wednesday will be in R8
Uploaded with changes accepted
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20. Student Paper Competition
Winner notified
Meareg Abreha from Ethiopia
Paper Title “History and implementation of the IEEE 802 security architecture”
Planning for presentation in July
Perhaps early tutorial slot on Tuesday?
Or midweek plenary
Publicity:
Announcement is scheduled to be posted in the SA blog on 24 May
Plan to include on IEEE 802 web page
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21. Student Paper Competition
For Discussion
How many days at hotel
Sunday thru Wed night.
Seek extra travel funding from IEEE educational committee
agrees that the 802 EC seeks funding from IEEE, or otherwise, provide additional funds for the travel stipend
Do we consider another contest in the future?
Yes, but with better advertisement. Direct outreach to specific universities.
Still a worthwhile idea
If so, how can publicity be improved to get better participation?
More one-to-one contact with universities and professors – members can suggest points of contact
Suggestion to not have contest over end of year / holiday break time. Should be mid-semester.
Change incentives to be more attractive – opportunity to present rather travel?
Actions
Get hotel reservations in place for Meareg. (Dawn)
Seek additional funding for travel stipend
Get EC approval for 4 nights in hotel
Attendance waiver
Finalize paper presentation day and time
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22. 802.24 TAG closing Capture action Items from this meeting
Sub GHz white paper: Intro section on range (Ben), Regulatory section (John Notor)
Tim – turn slide into outline document and post
Volunteers for content – none at this time.
Any New Business?
IEEE SA Education Committee – eZine request. Forward to reflector. Due July 1st.
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23. Adjourn
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