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PROPERTY A SLIDES Hot Buttered Rum Day
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Please Take a Seat in the First Six Rows
PROPERTY A (FAJER) Music to Accompany Jacque (1997): Shania Twain, Come On Over (1997) Please Take a Seat in the First Six Rows
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PROPERTY A (FAJER) INTRO TO THE SUBJECT MATTER QUICK LOGISTICS
APPROACHING SECOND SEMESTER JACQUE & THE RIGHT TO EXCLUDE
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Property: Course is About Americans
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Property: Course is About Americans
Strong Libertarian Streak in U.S.: “You Can Do Anything You Want With Your Own Property”
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Property: Course is About Americans
Strong Libertarian Streak: “You Can Do Anything You Want With Your Property” v. Moralist/Busybody Streak E.g., AZ Homeowners’ Assn. Searching for Porn
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Property: Course is About Americans
Logically, there must be some limits on what you can do on your own land.
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Property: Course is About Americans
Logically, there must be some limits on what you can do on your own land. E.g., not a defense to murder
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Property: Course is About Americans
Logically, there must be some limits on what you can do on your own land.
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Property: Course is About Americans
Logically, there must be some limits on what you can do on your own land. In practice, in U.S. today, LOTS of limits!
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Property A: Subject Matter
Selected Topics re Real Property: Land & Attached Buildings Not covering Personal Property (movable objects, money, intangible property)
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Property A: Subject Matter
Selected Topics re Real Property We’ll explore nature of, and restrictions on, land ownership in American legal system. We’ll try to develop ideas re what kinds of limits/ restrictions are appropriate.
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Property Disputes v. Torts & Contracts
Shania Twain: Crossover Fusion of Country & Pop
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Property Disputes v. Torts & Contracts
Types of Relationships Involved Torts: Mostly accidental one-time interactions between strangers. Contracts: Mostly voluntary single-purpose relationships Property: Disputes often between people who are semi- stuck with each other (e.g., family or neighbors)
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Property Disputes v. Torts & Contracts
Types of Relationships Involved Property: Often People Who Are Semi-Stuck with Each Other (Family or Neighbors) Often separate (non-legal) issues real motivation for nasty litigation Sometimes cases/problems can touch student nerves in unexpected ways (E.g., death in Chapters 3-4)
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Property Disputes v. Torts & Contracts
Which Comes First? Property Rights Necessarily Precede… Tort Judgments Contract Rights
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Property Course v. Torts & Contracts
Property Professors are Considerably Shorter
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Property Course v. Torts & Contracts
Challenges: Vocabulary Torts: Ordinary words turn out to have technical non-obvious legal meanings: e.g., duty; cause; reasonable Property: In addition, need to learn & memorize a lot of non-ordinary (i.e., obscure) vocabulary
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Property Course v. Torts & Contracts
Challenges: Expectations v. Reality Contracts: You expect “Is there a contract?” to be a legal question, but it’s usually factual. Course mostly not about “How to Create Contracts.” Like a course called Marriage taught entirely out of divorce records. Prof. Gudridge on Promises in Contracts Courses
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Property Course v. Torts & Contracts
Challenges: Expectations v. Reality Property: You expect “Whose property is it?” to be a factual question, but it’s usually legal. Rules re what you can do with your own stuff much more complex than most people expect. Lots of relevant interests beside those of the “owner.” Like a course called Marriage that significantly incorporates the stories of family and friends.
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Property Course v. Torts & Contracts
Challenges: Big Picture? Torts: Lots of time on a few causes of action, so you have to pay attention to small factual distinctions. Contracts: Subjects covered very interrelated, so often hard to make sense of individual topics until you get close to completing the whole course. Property: Survey course; each chapter has a different legal structure that doesn’t relate much to the others.
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Property: The Metaphor of the Bundle of Sticks
Land Ownership Includes Many Possible Rights Normal package today in U.S. Includes: right to use as you wish in the present right to use as you wish in the future right to transfer: sell or lease or devise (pass by will) right to extract minerals right to exclude etc., etc., etc.
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Property: The Metaphor of the Bundle of Sticks
Land Ownership Includes Many Possible Rights Normal Package in U.S. Includes Long List Common to Have Some Rights and Not Others. Temporal Divisions: E.g., Landlord & Tenant Physical Divisions: E.g., Mineral Rights & Surface Rights Shared Use: E.g., Utility Easements
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Property: The Metaphor of the Bundle of Sticks
Land Ownership Includes Many Possible Rights Normal Package in U.S. Includes Long List Common to Have Some Rights; Not Others. Yields “Bundle of Sticks” Metaphor
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PROPERTY A (FAJER) LOGISTICS INTRO TO THE SUBJECT MATTER
APPROACHING SECOND SEMESTER JACQUE & THE RIGHT TO EXCLUDE
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Apology for Slowness Getting Intro Materials Posted
LOGISTICS Apology for Slowness Getting Intro Materials Posted By This Afternoon on Course Page: 1st Supplement & Syllabus Assignments for Thursday/Monday
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LOGISTICS Dean’s Fellow: Daniel Gross
By This Afternoon on Course Page: Info Memo w Basic Logistics Info (I’ll Go Over Somwe on Thursday; Send Qs by ) Dean’s Fellow: Daniel Gross Details on Sessions Next Weeek
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PROPERTY A (FAJER) APPROACHING SECOND SEMESTER
INTRO TO THE SUBJECT MATTER LOGISTICS APPROACHING SECOND SEMESTER JACQUE & THE RIGHT TO EXCLUDE
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Approaching Second Semester
Where You Are at End of First Semester Special Difficulties of Second Semester What To Do Now
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Approaching Second Semester
Where You Are at End of First Semester “I Guess You’re Right.” (!)
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Approaching Second Semester
Where You Are at End of First Semester Special Difficulties of Second Semester Schedule What To Do Now
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Approaching Second Semester
Where You Are at End of First Semester Special Difficulties of Second Semester Schedule L. Comm. Heavy in April Need to Get More Exam Prep Done Earlier What To Do Now
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Approaching Second Semester
Where You Are at End of First Semester Special Difficulties of Second Semester Schedule Coping with Grades What To Do Now
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Coping with Grades Motivation Issues
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Coping with Grades Motivation Issues Meaning of Grades
Not Good Measure of You as a Person
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Which of The Following is the Most Annoying?
Flo in Progressive ads B. Guys in Sonic ads C. Dick Vitale
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Which of The Following is the Most Annoying?
Flo in Progressive ads Guys in Sonic ads Dick Vitale D. Classmates Who Let Everyone Know About Their High Grades
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Coping with Grades Motivation Issues Meaning of Grades
Not Good Measure of You as a Person Not Good Measure of Your Potential as a Lawyer
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Approaching Second Semester
Where You Are at End of First Semester Special Difficulties of Second Semester What To Do Now (Life Lessons from the Eensy Weensy Spider)
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Approaching Second Semester
Where You Are at End of First Semester Special Difficulties of Second Semester What To Do Now? Own Your Grades/Work on Exam Technique
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Approaching Second Semester
Where You Are at End of First Semester Special Difficulties of Second Semester What To Do Now? Own Your Grades/Work on Exam Technique Work on Lawyering Skills
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FINAL EXAM QUESTIONS Choose Three of Four
XQ1: LAWYERING XQ2: SHORT ANSWERS (Choose Three of Four) XQ3: OPINION/DISSENT XQ4: TRADITIONAL ISSUE-SPOTTER
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Approaching Second Semester
Where You Are at End of First Semester Special Difficulties of Second Semester What To Do Now? Own Your Grades/Work on Exam Technique Work on Lawyering Skills Theme for Course: Hard Qs/Easy Qs
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Approaching Second Semester
Final Point
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PROPERTY D (FAJER) JACQUE & THE RIGHT TO EXCLUDE
INTRO TO THE SUBJECT MATTER LOGISTICS APPROACHING SECOND SEMESTER JACQUE & THE RIGHT TO EXCLUDE
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Jacque & the Right to Exclude
DQ1.01: Jacque quotes the U.S. S.Ct. as saying that the right to exclude is one of the “most essential” rights of a landowner. Why is it so important? Need for specifics because we’ll need to balance against other interests
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Jacque & the Right to Exclude
DQ1.01: Why is right to exclude so important? Reasons include that, without it … Os lack sense of control/security/privacy. Can’t enjoy land fully if others wandering on and off. Residential 3d Parties interfere with activities around residence Forced associations w 3d Parties Hard to achieve security/privacy even inside residence Agricultural/Business Uses 3d parties interfere with operation of business Liability issues re 3d party interaction with facilities Possibility of actual damage to land/bldgs/plants
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Jacque & the Right to Exclude
DQ1.01: Why is right to exclude so important? Reasons include that, without it … Os less likely to invest in development (see #2/#3 above) Os might overinvest in deterrence (walls, security guards, guns etc.) (cf. rich people now) 3d parties might develop interests in O’s land that can interfere w ownership (Adv. Poss. /Prescr. Easements)
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Jacque & the Right to Exclude
[DQ1.02] The court says an intentional trespass causes “actual harm” to the property owner even if the harm is non-monetizable. Aside from the risk of adverse possession, what kind(s) of harm do you think the court has in mind? (Some overlap with DQ1.01)
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Jacque & the Right to Exclude
DQ1.02: Non-monetizable harms that can result from intentional trespass include … Psychic Harms (re Enjoyment/Control/Security/Privacy) Forced Associations Loss of Respect for Legal System/Tendency to Self-Help Underinvestment in Development Overinvestment in Deterrence/Security
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Location: Schleswig , Wisconsin
Jacque: Background Location: Schleswig , Wisconsin Name suggests founded by German immigrants Manitowoc County (Lake Michigan coast)
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Green Bay Sheboygan
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Jacque: Background Facts: D had to deliver mobile home
Easiest way across Ps’ land Ps repeatedly denied permission to cross land D crosses anyway D pays small fine to county for criminal trespass
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Jacque: Background Procedure: P brings tort suit: Intentional Trespass
Note “Trespass” can be both tort & crime Here Ds paid fine for criminal action brought by govt. Still can be liable for civil damages in tort.
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Jacque: Background Procedure: WHY NO ACTUAL HARM HERE?
P brings tort suit: Intentional Trespass Jury awards damages: Compensatory = Nominal (= finding of none) Punitives = $100K WHY NO ACTUAL HARM HERE?
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WHY GOOD CASE FOR PUNITIVES?
Jacque: Background Procedure: Jury awards damages: Compensatory = Nominal Ps retired so no operating business to be harmed Wisc. winter so no harm to frozen ground Punitives = $100K WHY GOOD CASE FOR PUNITIVES?
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Jacque: Background Procedure: Jury awards damages:
Compensatory = Nominal Punitives = $100K: Good Case Ds told “No” multiple times but didn’t care Tried to hide Laughed afterward
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