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1 Banyár József Dr. Banyár József 19. September, 2014.
Consequences of cross-border human capital transfers on national PAYG systems Dr. Banyár József 19. September, 2014. Consequences of cross-border human capital...

2 Pension systems had by EU member countries
Banyár József Pension systems had by EU member countries In the EU, the most typical national pension system is pay-as-you-go (PAYG) type Exceptions: only Denmark, Ireland and the Netherlands Philosophy: a social contract amongst generations Consequences of cross-border human capital...

3 Implicit assumptions behind PAYG systems
Banyár József Implicit assumptions behind PAYG systems Important ones from our theme’s perspective: There are always enough children – the population is continuously increasing Closed economy: everybody will be a contribution payer and a pensioner when he/she has grown up/finishes work None of these is true any more - and it is causing problems. Consequences of cross-border human capital...

4 There are always enough children
Banyár József There are always enough children Previously, this seemed self-evident because: Living within a family was the rule, and living alone (not as a widow) was rare There was no contraception (or it was extremely hard to get, dangerous and even illegal) There was no PAYG pension system. This proved an incentive to persons’ having children Consequences of cross-border human capital...

5 The PAYG system as a reverse incentive
Banyár József The PAYG system as a reverse incentive The PAYG system ”nationalized” children, or rather the economic gains they enabled = their ability to make contributions (after childhood) While distributing these gains amongst the pension-age generation (who had ”produced” the contribution payers), the costs of ”producing” children was disregarded - these costs remained as (mainly) private ones → → There is a quite high incentive not to have/raise children Consequences of cross-border human capital...

6 Source: Eurostat Banyár József
Consequences of cross-border human capital...

7 Source: Eurostat Banyár József
Consequences of cross-border human capital...

8 Assuming a closed economy
Banyár József Assuming a closed economy Closed economy: people basically do not migrate between countries – they are born, raised, work (become contribution payers) and retire in the place where they were born The basis of the pension policy of the EU: assuming a closed economy ↔ pensions are within individual member states’ competencies This concept is (partly) obsolete, because the (meta) assumptions are obsolete Consequences of cross-border human capital...

9 Problems caused by the PAYG system
Banyár József Problems caused by the PAYG system Summing up: PAYG → incentive not to have children→ decreasing fertility → aging → decreasing inverse aged dependency ratio→ problems in financing These problems worsen with the retirement of persons making up the baby boom generation, yet the situation will be especially bad after retirement of the baby boom echo generation in approximately two decades Consequences of cross-border human capital...

10 Source: Eurostat Banyár József
Consequences of cross-border human capital...

11 Banyár József The role of migrants With non-EU migrants, any escalation of this problem happens later But: integration problems - there is a fierce competition with the USA for high-value migrants (USA stands to win) There are no integration issues concerning migrants from other countries of the EU: it is expected that migration from less developed/relatively poor countries of the EU into the developed/rich countries will intensify This phenomena is helped by how the EU itself is constructed - the built-in ”freedoms” (fundamental rights), especially the free movement of workers Consequences of cross-border human capital...

12 Banyár József The migration pump Free movement of workers : helping as a kind of ”migration pump” is the idea of putting off to a later time any escalation of financial problems coming with the PAYG systems of the rich EU countries By anticipating escalation of the financial problems pertaining to the PAYG systems of less rich EU countries Consequences of cross-border human capital...

13 Banyár József The migration pump This process is now just starting, but in the future it is expected to speed up because: With the gradual retirement of the baby boom generation, youth unemployment in the rich countries will go down – it is now an important obstacle to the movement of workers Positive feedback: with the emigration of actives from the less rich countries, the contribution rate will increase – and this will give a plus incentive to emigration Consequences of cross-border human capital...

14 Banyár József Hungarian immigrants into some countries (lower estimation from different sources) Type of data Country 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 Stock Germany 60,000 61,400 68,900 82,800 107,400 135,600 Switzerland 5,200 5,8 00 6,600 8,100 9,900 Sweden 14,600 15,100 15,300 15,400 15,700 16,000 Flow Austria 2,000 1,900 2,200 3,900 8,500 Great-Britain 14,700 13,800 14,200 17,900 4,700* *only in Q1 Source: Bodnár-Szabó [2014], MNB Consequences of cross-border human capital...

15 Banyár József Possible solutions The origin of the problem is how the EU is constructed → the solution should also be European Possibilities: 1. If we hold onto the logic of present pension systems: migrants from countries inside the EU should keep paying their contributions into their original countries – and get their pensions from these countries Consequences of cross-border human capital...

16 Banyár József Possible solutions 2. A more general solution, though inside the pension system: think through again whether pensions are solely and strictly within individual member states’ competences? If the labour base is common, then the pensions which are built on this – at least partially – should be also common → European pension. (Example: from age 80 European pension, between age 70 and 80 national pension, before age 70 private pension) Consequences of cross-border human capital...

17 Banyár József Possible solutions 3. A solution outside the pension system: reducing the significance of a pension by redistributing working possibilities. In other words: significantly decreasing the annual working time for actives but increasing the retirement age to well above the age of 70. (A solution proposed by Carlos Slim in Paraguay) Consequences of cross-border human capital...

18 Possible objections Emigration also has benefits:
Banyár József Possible objections Emigration also has benefits: If the involved person is unemployed it is good for them, and not a loss to the country he/she is leaving Remittances are profit for the family of the emigrant (i.e. who remain at home) - and for the whole country If the emigration is temporary, returning emigrants bring their savings with them along with know-how, working culture etc. from a more developed environment Consequences of cross-border human capital...

19 Banyár József Possible objections A further logical objection - that in the EU, the relationship between rich and less rich countries is in reality asymmetrical; but it is in precisely the opposite direction (as noted above) – the less rich countries get a lot of transfer from the rich countries: Structural funds: the balance of contributions and outpayments is advantageous for less developed countries Capital investments from rich country companies into the less rich ones, and the job-creation effect going along with this, in general: Technology and know-how transfer. Yet the question: are these generally helping the pension systems of less developed countries? Consequences of cross-border human capital...

20 Thank you for your attention!
Banyár József Thank you for your attention! Consequences of cross-border human capital...


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