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CWPAN Response to IEEE 802.11 China MM-Wave (CMMW) Study Group
April 2007 doc.: IEEE /0570r0 May 2012 CWPAN Response to IEEE China MM-Wave (CMMW) Study Group Date: Authors: Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation
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Contents CWPAN Response to IEEE 802.11 CMMW April Teleconference call
March 2012 Contents CWPAN Response to IEEE CMMW April Teleconference call CWPAN Response to IEEE CMMW questions for March meeting
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CWPAN Response to IEEE 802.11 CMMW April Teleconference call
Can we agree that CMMW TG meetings held in Asia always convened as WG interims? [CWPAN Response]: Yes, CWPAN strongly supports that CMMW TG meetings held in Asia always convened as WG interims Recognizing that the CMMW project is a unique collaborative experiment the WG chair can grant , restore or maintain voting rights for CMMW TG members regardless of their attendance outside Asia. However, it would be more greatly appreciated if CMMW TG members could attend one plenary meeting per year. How many members of the future members of CMMW who reside in Asia would be able to do so? [CWPAN Response]: CWPAN is aware of the challenge to create a new class of voting right that is task group specific. CWPAN positively supports WG chair’s approach to grant, restore or maintain voting rights for CMMW TG members (mainly from CWPAN members) regardless of their attendance outside Asia for this collaborative experiment. CWPAN will also encourage more CWPAN members to attend CMMW TG plenary meeting outside Asia.
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Specifications – Questions
How much change to 11ad is required to meet the CWPAN PG4 60GHz requirements? When can obtain requirements statements from PG4? Understood that many are in Chinese and will need to be translated [CWPAN response]: CWPAN PG4 will provide 60GHz spectrum requirement in English in March meeting and other requirement statement in English asap How much change to 11 is required to meet the CWPAN SG GHz requirements? When will the GHz spectrum allocation rules be released? What did SG5 request from SRRC? Will 11ad be an acceptable baseline for CWPAN SG5? Mutual exchange of documentation between and CWPAN is needed IEEE participants need access to CWPAN SG5 application specifications CWPAN SG5 will present the update of GHz spectrum allocation request and channel measurement & model for GHz in March meeting CWPAN SG5 will provide application specifications? Please see Overview of CWPAN SG5 Q-LINKPAN
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Questions & Replies Question about 2 channels vs 3 channels, is there documentation on benefits? Will provide a presentation Might china regulations in 60 GHz expand spectrum? Will not consider at this point of time; Will CMMW & 11ad devices coexist? Yes when operating in 60Ghz frequency band Will they start on wide or narrow channels? This is detailed technical question, need further consideration. How similar will 40 GHz design be to 11ad? Depends Will the QLINKPAN project stop if CMMW continues? No, Q-LINKPAN will continue Are there other countries that would allow GHz operation? Don’t know. USA may allow Can CMMW get access to Q-LINKPAN technical specs or documentation? Need to work out the way to exchange the information Regarding regulatory rules, would GHz be available only to Q-LINKPAN or to any system? Any system How much of GHz will be licensed versus unlicensed? Unlicensed: ~46.918GHz=3.584GHz Licensed: 40.5~43.334GHz=2.834GHz, ~50.2GHz=2.912GHz Can get CWPAN’s GHz request to China regulators?
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Meetings – Questions January 2012
We have confirmed that CMMW TG meetings will be organized through CESI [CWPAN response]: CESI will be responsible for the CMMW TG meeting in China and ensure the service is on IEEE802 conference quality (including the payment of registration fee by credit card and the Wi-Fi service during the meeting and more); What is the best scheduling arrangement to optimize the quantity and quality of participation and technical exchanges Essentially all of current CWPAN PG4/SG5 members will participate in CMMW TG activities CMMW TG meetings will be co-located with plenary meetings CMMW TG interim meetings will be held independently in Asia The meeting schedule for interims and 802 plenaries are scheduled through 2014 CMMW TG meetings will not be scheduled to overlap with scheduled WG meetings If there is an interim meeting in Asia, the CMMW TG will be co-located The three Asian CMMW TG interim meetings will be scheduled for 2 days ( 12 months in advance) If the CMMW TG interim meeting follows the interim would you prefer the CMMW TG interim meetings be held Mon-Tues or Thur-Fri? CWPAN meetings will be co-located [CWPAN]: CMMW TG on Wed-Thur, CWPAN on Mon, Tues, Friday. The schedule is in the next slide interim meetings announced at least 45 days in advance do not require a quorum for voting
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Planned IEEE 802 / CMMW TG meeting schedule (1)
April 2007 doc.: IEEE /0570r0 Planned IEEE 802 / CMMW TG meeting schedule (1) Note: Assuming we can start CMMW TG meeting in Sept 2012 Date Meeting Venue Plenary/Interim May 13-18, 2012 Atlanta, USA Interim July 15-20, 2012 San Diego, CA, USA Plenary Sept 16-21, 2012 India well, CA, USA Sept 24-28, 2012 Beijing, China CMMW TG/CWPAN Nov 11-16, 2012 San Antonio TX, USA Jan 13-18, 2013 USA Jan 21-25, 2013 China March 17-22, 2013 Orlando, Florida, USA May 12-17, 2013 Big Island, Hawaii, USA April 22-26, 2013 July 14-19, 2013 TBD Sept 15-20, 2013 Nanjing China CMMW TG/CWPAN (Co-location) Nov 10-15, 2013 Dallax TX, USA May 1-7, 2013 will be the public holiday in China (need confirmation from CWPAN) Feb 10, 2013 will be the Chinese New Year (CNY) holiday Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation
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Planned IEEE 802 / CMMW TG meeting schedule (TBD)
April 2007 doc.: IEEE /0570r0 Planned IEEE 802 / CMMW TG meeting schedule (TBD) Date Meeting Venue Plenary/Interim Jan 13-18, 2014 Los Angeles, CA, USA Interim Jan 6-10, 2014 China (TBD) CMMW TG/CWPAN March 16-21, 2014 Atlanta, USA Plenary May 12-17, 2014 Hawaii, USA May 20-24, 2014 China July 13-18, 2014 San Diego California, USA Sept 15-20, 2014 TBD (non USA) Sept 23-27, 2014 (TBD) Nov 10-15, 2014 San Antonio Texas USA Jan 31, 2014 will be CNY holiday in China (need confirmation from CWPAN) Recommendation on time: CMMW TG on Wed-Thursday CWPAN on Mon, Tues and Friday Any feedback??? Recommendation on venue: Beijing, any other place??? Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation
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China 60GHz spectrum requirement (1)
SRRC released spectrum in 59-64GHz for micro-power (short range) application on Oct 23, 2006 (Reference Document Number: XWH ); The spectrum requirement for the devices operating in 59-64GHz for micro-power (short range) applications: Carry Frequency Tolerance:500x10-6 Maximum Output Power :10dBm Limit of Peak Effective Isotropic Radiated Power: 47dBm Limit of Average Effective Isotropic Radiated Power: 44dBm EIRP : 57-59GHz and 64-66GHz:-5dBm/MHz
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China 60GHz spectrum requirement (2)
General Requirement: (Reference Document Number: XBW ) Spur Radiation Emission Measurement Frequency Range: Spur Radiation Emission limit Transmitter operating in maximum transmit power Transmitter operating in idle mode Frequency Range Spur Radiation Emission Measurement Frequency Range Lower Limit Upper Limit Above 13GHz 30MHz 2nd Harmonic Frequency Range Measured BW Limit Measured Method >40GHz 1MHz (3dB) -20dBm Effective Value Frequency Range Measured BW Limit Measured Method >1GHz 1MHz (3dB) -47dBm Effective Value
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CWPAN PG4 Function Requirement (1)
Usage model: Typical WPAN applications Wireless Display (with large screen) HD contents distribution Info-stations Typical WPAN applications for portable devices, e.g. Tablet, mobile phones
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CWPAN PG4 Function Requirement (2)
Technical Specification: Frequency range: 59-64GHz Transmit Power: Maximum Transmit Power: 10dBm Limit of Peak Effective Isotropic Radiated Power : 47dBm Limit of Average Effective Isotropic Radiated Power : 44dBm EIRP: 57-59GHz & 64-66GHz, -5dBm / MHz Date Rate: Mandatory supported date rate: >1Gbps Optional supported date rate: >5Gbps Transmission distance: Maximum distance >10m Channelization: support at least 3 logical channels Coexistence: coexistence with other 60 GHz devices Note: in some special cases, it is also allowed to consider the usage of the frequency band in 40~50GHz
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CWPAN channel requirement: at least 3 logical channels
Three channel can work Two channel can’t work Four channel can work
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CWPAN Architecture Assumption: CWPAN and IEEE will reach the agreement of copyright
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CWPAN Device Working Mode (1)
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CWPAN Device Working Mode (2)
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