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TGn Opening Report Sept 2004 04/1030 r2
July 2004 doc.: IEEE /0658r0 Sept 2004 TGn Opening Report Sept /1030 r2 Bruce Kraemer, Chair Garth Hillman, Secretary Kraemer, Conexant; Hillman, AMD Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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Sept 2004 Administrative Intro Kraemer, Conexant; Hillman, AMD
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IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws on Patents in Standards
July 2004 doc.: IEEE /0658r0 Sept 2004 1. IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws on Patents in Standards Approved by IEEE-SA Standards Board – May 2004 6. Patents IEEE standards may include the known use of essential patents and patent applications, provided the IEEE receives assurance from the patent holder or applicant with respect to patents essential for compliance with both mandatory and optional portions of the standard. This assurance shall be provided without coercion and prior to approval of the standard (or reaffirmation when a patent becomes known after initial approval of the standard). This assurance shall be a letter that is in the form of either: a) A general disclaimer to the effect that the patentee will not enforce any of its present or future patent(s) whose use would be required to implement the proposed IEEE standard against any person or entity using the patent(s) to comply with the standard or b) A statement that a license will be made available without compensation or under reasonable rates, with reasonable terms and conditions that are demonstrably free of any unfair discrimination This assurance shall apply, at a minimum, from the date of the standard's approval to the date of the standard's withdrawal and is irrevocable during that period. Kraemer, Conexant; Hillman, AMD Bruce Kraemer, Conexant
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Inappropriate Topics for IEEE WG Meetings
Sept 2004 1. Inappropriate Topics for IEEE WG Meetings Approved by IEEE-SA Standards Board – March 2003 Don’t discuss licensing terms or conditions Don’t discuss product pricing, territorial restrictions or market share Don’t discuss ongoing litigation or threatened litigation Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed… do formally object. If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at Kraemer, Conexant; Hillman, AMD
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Attendance & Voting Status
Sept 2004 1. Attendance & Voting Status Use 802wirelessworld to register attendance If you encounter Attendance Issues during the session send an to Harry Worstell – Questions on Voting status – see Harry Worstell – Kraemer, Conexant; Hillman, AMD
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Sept 2004 TGN – July Minutes r0 Cumulative minutes of the High Throughput Task Group meetings held during the IEEE Plenary meeting in Portland from July 12 through 16, 2004. Executive Summary (see closing report doc r0): 14 Technical presentations were heard Joint meetings were held with , .18 and .21 Decision was made not to hold elections for the technical editor and vice-chair at this meeting or the September meeting. Overview of TGn timeline was given Logistics for the September meeting in Berlin, where the proposals will be heard for the first time, were agreed upon. Kraemer, Conexant; Hillman, AMD
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Sept 2004 Approve Minutes Motion to approve minutes of the July session contained in document Kraemer, Conexant; Hillman, AMD
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Sept 2004 Plan for the Week Kraemer, Conexant; Hillman, AMD
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TGn - September Meeting Hours
1. TGn - September Meeting Hours All sessions will be held in ECC Room 1 Time Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday 8:00-10:00 X 10 20 26 10:30-12:30 2 12 28 1:30-3:30 4 14 22 30 4:00-6:00 6 16 24 32 7:30-9:30 8 18 34 Kraemer, Conexant; Hillman, AMD
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TGn - Speaker Schedule X All sessions will be held in ECC Room 1 8 9
Sept 2004 1. TGn - Speaker Schedule All sessions will be held in ECC Room 1 Time Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday 8:00-10:00 X 8 9 18 19 24 25 10:30-12:30 Intro 1 10 11 26 27 1:30-3:30 2 3 12 13 20 21 28 29 4:00-6:00 4 5 14 15 22 23 30 31 7:30-9:30 6 7 16 17 32 Wrap up Kraemer, Conexant; Hillman, AMD
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Speaker Sequence- distributed
Sept 2004 Speaker Sequence- distributed Kraemer, Conexant; Hillman, AMD
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Speaker Sequence - distributed
Sept 2004 Speaker Sequence - distributed Kraemer, Conexant; Hillman, AMD
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Extraordinary event Family illness requires change per WG chair
Sept 2004 Extraordinary event Family illness requires change per WG chair Kraemer, Conexant; Hillman, AMD
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Speaker Sequence Proposal –move all 1 slot
Sept 2004 Speaker Sequence Proposal –move all 1 slot Kraemer, Conexant; Hillman, AMD
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Sept 2004 Kraemer, Conexant; Hillman, AMD
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Sept 2004 Monday - Speakers Kraemer, Conexant; Hillman, AMD
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Sept 2004 Tuesday - Speakers Kraemer, Conexant; Hillman, AMD
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Sept 2004 Wednesday - Speakers Kraemer, Conexant; Hillman, AMD
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Sept 2004 Thursday - Speakers Kraemer, Conexant; Hillman, AMD
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Agenda Logic September (set this morning)
Dispose of administrative affairs – set expectations & the stage Complete first round of presentations for all submissions Use special orders to fix time slots Hold no selection votes Discuss November plans in some detail before session close Expect/encourage mergers and resubmissions between Sept & Nov November (for guidance only) Hear extended presentations of revised complete proposals Perhaps 4 hours each Hold panel Vote? Kraemer, Conexant; Hillman, AMD
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Agenda Detail – Mon + Tues
Sept 2004 Agenda Detail – Mon + Tues Special Order Speaking slots of 1 hour each Special Order Speaking slots of 1 hour each Kraemer, Conexant; Hillman, AMD
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Agenda Detail – Wed + Thu
Sept 2004 Agenda Detail – Wed + Thu Special Order Speaking slots of 1 hour each Special Order Speaking slots of 1 hour each Kraemer, Conexant; Hillman, AMD
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Speaker Logistics Each speaker is allocated a one hour block
Sept 2004 Speaker Logistics Each speaker is allocated a one hour block This includes transition time, presentation, and question and answer. Speaker decides/announces how they will handle Q&A Distributed: Acknowledge and answer questions as they proceed Or Lump: Finish presentation then to allow Q & A after completion Alarm clock will be used to assist Kraemer, Conexant; Hillman, AMD
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Sept 2004 Speaker Logistics TGn officers, with assistance from WG officers, (plus Tour Host and hotel staff ) will assist in keeping the process moving (microphones, projectors, lights,…) Speakers must be ready to present at the agreed to times. E.g. if you show up 15 minutes late that time is lost. If the speaker finishes early we will have a recess. Make sure you can connect to the projecter Announce to the group which documents are being presented Kraemer, Conexant; Hillman, AMD
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Sept 2004 Approve Agenda Motion to approve agenda with speaking slots as special orders. Kraemer, Conexant; Hillman, AMD
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WG Vice Chair 2.3.10.2.2 Document Collection and Maintenance
Sept 2004 WG Vice Chair Document Collection and Maintenance The objectives of this task are: After assignment by the Chair, maintain a consistently numbered set of documents and on the meeting server using electronic wireless Wi-FI™ medium and the IEEE WEB site. Verify document formats before presentation and circulation of materials to membership Update document list and assign document numbers as requested. Keep meeting attendees informed about document status during plenary and interim sessions. Kraemer, Conexant; Hillman, AMD
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802.11 Policies and Procedures 04-0510 r0
Sept 2004 Policies and Procedures r0 2.5 Documentation All ™ documents are disseminated in electronic format only, other than exceptional cases. Documents are only accepted if they adhere to the rules spelled out in this subclause. 2.5.1 Types 2.5.2 Format Documents with the exception of draft standards and amendments shall in the current template as specified by the WG Chair. The templates are located on the ™ WG website at: 2.5.3 Layout 2.5.4 Timing of Submissions 2.5.5 Naming Conventions Kraemer, Conexant; Hillman, AMD
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Submission/ Presentations
Sept 2004 Submission/ Presentations Formatting of documents is important. Authors: Check your work Members: Constructive commentary is appreciated. Should you see any documents with formatting errors please bring them to the attention of the authors so they can be duly noted and fixed ASAP. Any issues mentioned in session will be minuted Status reviewed in the subsequent session Lets concentrate on technical presentations and discussions Consider the months of preparation and expense to reach this point Avoid diverting time to administrative debates Kraemer, Conexant; Hillman, AMD
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We are now ready to begin!!
Sept 2004 We are now ready to begin!! Kraemer, Conexant; Hillman, AMD
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Sept 2004 Plans for November Kraemer, Conexant; Hillman, AMD
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September Summary Good news 32 presentations completed
Because the presentations did not fill every available meeting minute there was adequate time to caucus and, at least tentatively, explore possible mergers which would result in new completes or revised completes. Bad News Complete presentations did not have adequate time to present or answer audience questions. Not enough time to conduct panel discussion or additional selection steps. Not known how many completes will exist in November Kraemer, Conexant; Hillman, AMD
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November Agenda Challenge
Sept 2004 November Agenda Challenge Panel Discussion Possible inclusion of one or more additional complete proposal Extended presentation and Q&A time for completes Additional technical presentations anticipated Need to refresh audience memory Kraemer, Conexant; Hillman, AMD
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Selection Process 665r9 You Are here Sept 2004
Mergers may take place. Step 11 The TG may Step 11 decide time Mergers may required for Step 13 The remaining take place. Step 7 Initial 60 Minutes consideration of proposals may undergo technical The TG may presentation for all new mergers Step 8 proposals. changes without decide time Panel discussion. requiring a required for consideration of Step 16 merge. new mergers Step 9 Elimination vote. Recess to allow Eliminate proposal Any new merger granted at with least support. mergers? Y option of TG. Presentation of merged proposals. N Y Any Mergers Presentation of all take place? Y remaining proposals Discard un- Step 10 merged partial proposals. Step 13 N The remaining proposals may Final 5 minute undergo technical More than 1 Panel Discussion Y at option of the Step 12 statement. changes without proposal left? 25% low-bar requiring a chair Elimination vote merge. N 60 minute Step 15 Step presentation of 17 More than 1 Roll-call Statements from Step 14 remaining N proposals proposal left? confirmation vote no voters of why they voted no. including Q & A N Step 20 Editor prepares Step 19 Draft 1.0. Vote that Adopt proposal as it is technically initial technical Y 75% for ? Response by consistent with specification proposers. technical spec. N Y 75% for ? 75% for ? Roll-call confirmation vote Y Step 11 Step 18 Forward Draft 1.0 Step 21 to WG for Letter Mergers may Ballot take place. N Bring back last The TG may three proposals decide time required for The remaining Step 13 consideration of proposals may new mergers undergo technical Drawing by Adrian Stephens Procedure End changes without September 16, 2003 requiring a merge. Kraemer, Conexant; Hillman, AMD
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665r9 – Sequence Summary Call for proposals
Sept 2004 665r9 – Sequence Summary Call for proposals Classify as partial or complete Presentations Panel discussion Allow mergers and additional presentation Do not conduct votes on partials Merger process 5 minute summary and then low hurdle vote Allow mergers and revisions 60 minute presentations for remaining proposals Skip if only one proposal Down Select vote Kraemer, Conexant; Hillman, AMD
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Selection Procedure 03-0665r9 Block A
Sept 2004 Selection Procedure r9 Block A Kraemer, Conexant; Hillman, AMD
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Selection Process 665r9 A Sept 2004 Step 11 Step 7 Step 8 Step 9 Y N
Mergers may take place. The TG may decide time required for consideration of new mergers. Initial 60 minutes presentation for all proposals. Panel discussion. Step 11 Step 7 Step 8 Step 9 Any new mergers? Recess to allow merger granted at option of TG. Presentation of merged proposals. Y N Discard unmerged partial proposals. Step 10 Step 13 Final 5 minute statement. 25% low-bar Elimination vote. The remaining proposals may undergo technical changes without requiring a merge. Step 12 60 minute presentation of remaining proposals.. Kraemer, Conexant; Hillman, AMD
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Sept 2004 r9 extract Complete and partial proposals shall be given up to 60 minutes presentation time including discussion. All proposal documents and related material (Presentation Material, Functional Requirements Declaration, Comparison Criteria Declaration and Technical Specification) emerging from the TGn call for proposals shall be available to the voting members 30 days prior to the session at which they will be presented. Any mergers resulting from the initial proposals shall be made available to the voting members at least 10 days prior to the session at which they will be presented. Merged proposals shall also include documents and related material. Next Session begins Monday Nov 15 Mergers documents must be on the server by midnight Thursday, Nov 4. Kraemer, Conexant; Hillman, AMD
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Sept 2004 r9 extract Immediately after the proposals are heard a Panel Discussion with all the presenters shall be held. Questions to the Panel shall be taken from the floor. Partial proposals will be given the opportunity to solicit mergers that result in complete proposals. In the event of a merger, presenters of mergers shall be allowed to request additional time to generate the merged proposal and present to the Task Group. The Task Group will approve and/or determine the amount of time allowed prior to presentation of the merged proposals, and the time for presentation shall be fixed in the agenda. How do we interpret “Immediately”? How do we encourage mergers? How do we allow time for merged presentations to be prepared , posted and heard? Suggestion: No voting in Berlin. Re-presentation of complete/merged proposals only in November allowing ~2 hours each followed by panel discussion and voting. Kraemer, Conexant; Hillman, AMD
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Sept 2004 r9 extract Presenters of each complete proposal shall be given the opportunity to make a final 5 minute statement to the group advocating their proposals just before the down selection voting starts. An elimination vote shall then be taken to remove proposals having little support within the task group. Each voting member shall cast a single ballot and vote to further consider or not to consider each individual proposal. The task group shall eliminate from consideration all proposals that do not obtain at least 25% support of the ballots cast. In the sample ballot shown below, a single registered voter has voted for Proposals A, B, and C to continue to be under consideration and Proposals D and E to no longer be under consideration. Note: One vote per column per voter is required for a valid ballot Kraemer, Conexant; Hillman, AMD
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Sept 2004 r9 extract After any voting that eliminates proposals (Steps 12 and 16) or after a reset (Step 18), the remaining proposals may undergo technical changes without having to merge with other proposals. The remaining candidates will again be given 60 minutes to present new data related to their proposals and to answer any additional questions. In the event that there is only one proposal remaining, step 16 shall be skipped and the procedure shall be advanced to step 17. Rounds of voting will be held that successively eliminate one candidate proposal at a time. On each round of voting, the candidate proposal that receives the least number of votes shall be eliminated from consideration. Kraemer, Conexant; Hillman, AMD
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Revised Complete Presentations
Sept 2004 November –Plan A 18 hours available General Order Procedure Step Event Event time Cum time Step 7 repeat Revised Complete Presentations and extended Q&A 5 x 2 x 1 = 10 hours 10 Step 8 Panel discussion 2 hours 12 Step 12 5 minute summary presentations 5 x 5 = ½ hour 12.5 Low Hurdle Vote ½ hour 13 Step 13 Revision of proposals Step 14 Revised presentations 4 X 1 = 4 hour 17 Step 16 Down Select Vote .5 hour 16 Plan for January .5 hour 17 Technical Presentations 1 hour 18 Kraemer, Conexant; Hillman, AMD
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Revised Complete Presentations
Sept 2004 November - Plan B General Order 18 hours available Procedure Step Event Event time Cum time Step 7 Refresh Partial Presentations 28 x 2 minutes = 1 hour 1 Partial Panel discussion 1 hour 2 Step 8 Step 7 Refresh Revised Complete Presentations and extended Q&A 5 x 2 x 1 = 10 hours 13 Step 8 Panel discussion 2 hours 15 Step 12 5 minute summary presentations 5 x 5 = ½ hour 15.5 Low Hurdle Vote .5 hour 16 Plan for January .5 hour 16.5 Technical Presentations 1.5 hours 18 Kraemer, Conexant; Hillman, AMD
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Sept 2004 End Guten Nacht Kraemer, Conexant; Hillman, AMD
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