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1 Investigators – independent or guns for hire
Investigators – independent or guns for hire? IAATI Training Seminar 2016 19 April 2016 John Price, Lead Ombudsman Insurance, Financial Ombudsman Service Australia

2 Financial Ombudsman Service Australia
Investigators, Loss Adjusters, Forensic Experts, are they truly independent especially if in-house, or are they guns for hire, tasked with achieving a desired outcome for their “boss”? This session examines the issue of independence through the eyes of the Decision Maker, what they look for in investigation reports – the good, the bad, the ugly.

3 Financial Ombudsman Service Australia
FOS is not a court It’s an alternative not a substitute Inquisitorial not adversarial

4 Terms of Reference clause 8.2
What is fair in all the circumstances Legal principles Applicable industry codes Good industry practice Previous relevant decisions (not binding)

5 Fraud A matter of Intent
The mental element required to establish fraud is an intention to deceive, that is an intention to create a false belief in the person deceived for the purpose of obtaining money or some other benefit Buchannan JA To v AAMI (2001) 3 VR 279

6 Fraud Our perceptions, our understanding is shaped by the position from which we start People are fundamentally honest The Power of the Paradigm “A model, theory, perception, a frame of reference” The way we see things....perception, understanding, interpreting

7 Fraud Mr Justice Young, ALJ 1997 Usual v Unusual Witness consistency
Do not rely on observations of demeanour Observational evidence needs to be tested Do not be misled Cultural Characteristics Just because a person is shown to be a liar does not establish something is so (e.g. claim to be somewhere but proven not to be does not establish fraud)

8 Fraud - Evidence Character – history Credibility – inconsistencies
Opportunity – timing Motive – financial, revenge, opportunistic, organised Experts

9 Questions we regularly have
What happened to transcripts? Why no interviews with employee/employees? Where are the financials – especially if an account is involved? Where are the contemporaneous notes? What canvas occurred? Why no police report / statements? What CCTV / video footage is available? We don’t want your opinion – we want the facts

10 What we look at Statements – how, when, how long, interpreter?
Record Statements Police, Fire Dept. records – address these – relevant to time, opportunity etc. Insurance & Criminal histories – are they accurate? Observations of demeanour – of little relevance Has consumer had a chance to clarify? – goes to co-operation Forensics – proper instruction – what instructions given? – address concerns Finance is important – Bank Records – should provide – fact that a person has limited income does not mean fraud Phone Records - provide Policy documents including PDS, Schedule, Certificate of Insurance – are there issues regarding misrepresentation/non-disclosure?

11 Contact details FOS Australia GPO Box 3 Melbourne VIC 3001 (Australia) Members contact: Consumers contact: (1800 FOS AUS) or

12 Questions?


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