1. Missed Triggers II Return of the Forgotten Ones
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2. What is a Missed Trigger?
Triggered Ability has to trigger
Controlling player “forgets” it
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4. When is a Trigger Forgotten?
Target required
Change in visible game state
Choice required
Rule-changing
Non-visible effect
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5. What is not a Missed Trigger?
Trigger resolved partially or incorrectly
Game got rushed past the Trigger
Trigger that makes delayed trigger
Trigger that makes copies
Trigger without impact
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7. Missed delayed triggers
What has changed?
Missed delayed triggers
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8. Still depends on the situation
Remedy
Still depends on the situation
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9. Optional action You may
Possible Situations
Optional action
You may
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Optional action
As a Player: try to remember next time
As an Opponent: nothing
As a Judge: nothing
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12. Mandatory Action Usually beneficial Usually detrimental
Possible Situations
Mandatory Action
Usually beneficial
Usually detrimental
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13. By Bemindt Jona – 25th November 2012
WHO’S THAT
MAGIC CARD?
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14. Beneficial mandatory trigger
As a Player: try to remember next time
As an Opponent: you can call a Judge
As a Judge:
Only if asked by Opponent
Put ability in proper place, or on bottom of stack
No Warnings
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15. Detrimental mandatory trigger
As a Player: try to remember next time
As an Opponent: you can call a Judge
As a Judge:
Issue a Warning
Put ability in proper place, or on bottom of stack if asked
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Possible Situations
Default action
If you don’t.../...unless
Associated with choice made by controller
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Default action
As a Player: try to remember next time
As an Opponent: you can call a Judge
As a Judge:
Issue a Warning
Always resolve default action (2 possibilities)
Everything still legal?
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19. Delayed Trigger Changes zone of an object
Possible Situations
Delayed Trigger
Changes zone of an object
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Default action
As a Player: try to remember next time
As an Opponent: you can call a Judge
As a Judge:
Issue a Warning?
Always resolve default action (2 possibilities)
Everything still legal?
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Possible Situations
5. You don’t want to
An ability you control triggers
You know about the trigger
You choose to ignore it
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You don’t want to
No longer a Missed Trigger
Unsporting Conduct - Cheating
Handle it as such
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25. What about the opponent?
Is never issued a Warning
Can call a Judge:
Duration of the effect has not yet expired OR
Trigger was missed less than a turn ago
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Recapitulation
Warnings for unintentionally missed detrimental trigger
Only intervene if:
Called by the Opponent
You want to issue a Warning
You suspect Shenanigans
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27. Philosophical Grounds
Common and invisible
Remember your own triggers
Don’t have to play the game for your Opponent
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Adventure Time!
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Adventure I
Neville controls a Battlewise Hoplite
Albus attacks with a Nessian Asp
Neville casts Savage Surge on the Hoplite
Neville scries and puts the card on the bottom
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Adventure I
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Adventure I
Both players are now tapped out
Neville blocks with the Hoplite
Albus says: “ok, so the Hoplite dies”
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32. Do you interfere? Infraction? Ruling? Penalties?
Adventure I
Do you interfere?
Infraction?
Ruling?
Penalties?
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Adventure II
Aragog controls a Desecration Demon
Nagini has no creatures, but 4 land untapped
Aragog says: “declare attack?”
Nagini says: “sure!”
Aragog attacks with the Demon
Nagini calls the Judge
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Adventure II
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35. Infraction? Ruling? Penalties?
Adventure II
Infraction?
Ruling?
Penalties?
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Adventure III
In Narcissa’s last turn, she casted Akroan Horse an gave it to Arabella
Arabella untaps, and draws a card
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Adventure III
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38. Do you interfere? Infraction? Ruling? Penalties?
Adventure III
Do you interfere?
Infraction?
Ruling?
Penalties?
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Questions?
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