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1 11k San Francisco 2 Agendas
Month Year doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 July 2005 11k San Francisco 2 Agendas Date: Authors: Notice: This document has been prepared to assist IEEE It is offered as a basis for discussion and is not binding on the contributing individual(s) or organization(s). The material in this document is subject to change in form and content after further study. The contributor(s) reserve(s) the right to add, amend or withdraw material contained herein. Release: The contributor grants a free, irrevocable license to the IEEE to incorporate material contained in this contribution, and any modifications thereof, in the creation of an IEEE Standards publication; to copyright in the IEEE’s name any IEEE Standards publication even though it may include portions of this contribution; and at the IEEE’s sole discretion to permit others to reproduce in whole or in part the resulting IEEE Standards publication. The contributor also acknowledges and accepts that this contribution may be made public by IEEE Patent Policy and Procedures: The contributor is familiar with the IEEE 802 Patent Policy and Procedures < ieee802.org/guides/bylaws/sb-bylaws.pdf>, including the statement "IEEE standards may include the known use of patent(s), including patent applications, provided the IEEE receives assurance from the patent holder or applicant with respect to patents essential for compliance with both mandatory and optional portions of the standard." Early disclosure to the Working Group of patent information that might be relevant to the standard is essential to reduce the possibility for delays in the development process and increase the likelihood that the draft publication will be approved for publication. Please notify the Chair as early as possible, in written or electronic form, if patented technology (or technology under patent application) might be incorporated into a draft standard being developed within the IEEE Working Group. If you have questions, contact the IEEE Patent Committee Administrator at Richard Paine, Boeing John Doe, Some Company

2 Abstract Agendas for the San Francisco 2 meeting of 802.11k. July 2005
Month Year doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 July 2005 Abstract Agendas for the San Francisco 2 meeting of k. Richard Paine, Boeing John Doe, Some Company

3 802.11k San Francisco 2 Agendas
July 2005 802.11k San Francisco 2 Agendas Richard Paine Richard Paine, Boeing

4 802.11k San Francisco 2 7/18/05 Ad Hoc 8-11am
Month Year doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 July 2005 Radio Resource Measurement 802.11k San Francisco 2 7/18/05 Ad Hoc 8-11am + Richard Paine, Boeing John Doe, Some Company

5 Radio Resource Measurement
July 2005 Meeting Objectives Radio Resource Measurement Whole San Francisco 2 Meeting: LB73 Technical Comment Resolution Letter Ballot Vote and Preparation Richard Paine, Boeing

6 TASK GROUP K AGENDA - Monday Jul 18th 2005 - 08:00-12:30
July 2005 Monday Agenda Radio Resource Measurement TASK GROUP K AGENDA - Monday Jul 18th :00-12:30 1 II Meeting Call to Order - PAINE 08:00 2 Review Brisbane Work 15 3 *MI APPROVE OR MODIFY AGENDA 10 08:15 4 DT Set/Review Objectives PAINE / ALL 08:25 5 Update on Teleconference Results 08:40 6 Call for Presentations PAINE/ALL 08:55 7 Review Comments and Technical Presentations 90 09:10 8 Adjourn the Monday San Francisco Ad Hoc  PAINE/ALL 00 10:40 Richard Paine, Boeing

7 Technical Comment Categories
July 2005 Technical Comment Categories Richard Paine, Boeing

8 Technical Comment Counts
July 2005 Technical Comment Counts Richard Paine, Boeing

9 Radio Resource Measurement
Month Year doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 July 2005 Radio Resource Measurement 802.11k Brisbane Agenda 7/15/05 + Richard Paine, Boeing John Doe, Some Company

10 TASK GROUP K AGENDA - Friday July 15th, 2005 - 9:00-11:00
TASK GROUP K AGENDA - Friday July 15th, :00-11:00 13 II Meeting Call to Order PAINE 09:00 14 DT Review Comments and Technical Presentations - PAINE/ALL 120 15 Recess to Monday (7/18/05) 11:00 Richard Paine, Boeing

11 Radio Resource Measurement
July 2005 Presentations Radio Resource Measurement PICS Histograms Link Margin Location Medsense (Amjad) Noise Probe/Power Beacon Misc Richard Paine, Boeing

12 802.11k San Francisco 2 7/18/05 WG Opening Plenary
Month Year doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 July 2005 Radio Resource Measurement 802.11k San Francisco 2 7/18/05 WG Opening Plenary + Richard Paine, Boeing John Doe, Some Company

13 Radio Resource Measurement
July 2005 Meeting Objectives Radio Resource Measurement Whole San Francisco 2 Meeting: LB73 Technical Comment Resolution Up/down vote on noise, location, medsense, and hidden on Wed morning at 9am Letter Ballot Preparation Richard Paine, Boeing

14 Radio Resource Measurement
July 2005 Technical Comment Categories Radio Resource Measurement Richard Paine, Boeing

15 Radio Resource Measurement
July 2005 Technical Comment Categories Radio Resource Measurement Richard Paine, Boeing

16 Radio Resource Measurement
July 2005 Important Documents Radio Resource Measurement LB73 Comment Resolution Spreadsheet (05/0191r40) LB73 Consolidated Spreadsheet for San Francisco 2 Richard Paine, Boeing

17 Next Telecom 7/27/05 7/27/05 Meeting: San Francisco Issues
July 2005 Next Telecom 7/27/05 7/27/05 Meeting: San Francisco Issues San Francisco Tasks Final Letter Ballot draft review Richard Paine, Boeing

18 802.11k San Francisco 2 Agenda 7/19/05 Tuesday
Month Year doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 July 2005 Radio Resource Measurement 802.11k San Francisco 2 Agenda 7/19/05 Tuesday Sign In + Richard Paine, Boeing John Doe, Some Company

19 Radio Resource Measurement
July 2005 Agenda Radio Resource Measurement Patent Policy Inappropriate Topics Documentation and Presentation Rules LB73 Comment Resolution Attendance Richard Paine, Boeing

20 Radio Resource Measurement
Month Year doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 July 2005 Radio Resource Measurement 6. Patents IEEE standards may include the known use of patent(s), including patent applications, provided the IEEE receives assurance from the patent holder or applicant with respect to patents essential for compliance with both mandatory and optional portions of the standard. This assurance shall be provided without coercion and prior to approval of the standard (or reaffirmation when a patent becomes known after initial approval of the standard). This assurance shall be a letter that is in the form of either a) A general disclaimer to the effect that the patentee will not enforce any of its present or future patent(s) whose use would be required to implement the proposed IEEE standard against any person or entity using the patent(s) to comply with the standard or b) A statement that a license will be made available without compensation or under reasonable rates, with reasonable terms and conditions that are demonstrably free of any unfair discrimination This assurance shall apply, at a minimum, from the date of the standard's approval to the date of the standard's withdrawal and is irrevocable during that period. Approved by IEEE-SA Standards Board – December 2002 Richard Paine, Boeing John Doe, Some Company

21 Inappropriate Topics for IEEE WG Meetings Radio Resource Measurement
July 2005 Inappropriate Topics for IEEE WG Meetings Radio Resource Measurement Don’t discuss licensing terms or conditions Don’t discuss product pricing, territorial restrictions or market share Don’t discuss ongoing litigation or threatened litigation Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed… do formally object. If you have questions, contact the IEEE Patent Committee Administrator at Approved by IEEE-SA Standards Board – December 2002 Richard Paine, Boeing

22 Radio Resource Measurement
July 2005 Documentation Radio Resource Measurement Documents must be on the server before presenting Word document with changes to D2.0 + Powerpoint to present Them + Powerpoint with motion to instruct the editor Richard Paine, Boeing

23 Radio Resource Measurement
July 2005 Meeting Objectives Radio Resource Measurement Whole San Francisco 2 Meeting: LB73 Technical Comment Resolution New Letter Ballot Strategy to resolve “remove” comments Richard Paine, Boeing

24 Radio Resource Measurement
July 2005 San Francisco 2 Work Radio Resource Measurement Technical Comment Resolution Next major milestone: Letter Ballot Richard Paine, Boeing

25 TASK GROUP K AGENDA - Tuesday Jul 19th, 2005 - 16:00-21:30
July 2005 Tuesday Agenda Radio Resource Measurement TASK GROUP K AGENDA - Tuesday Jul 19th, :00-21:30 11 II Meeting Call to Order PAINE 16:00 12 DT Review Comments and Technical Presentations - PAINE/ALL 120 13 Dinner Break 90 18:00 14 19:30 Recess until Wednesday morning 21:30 Richard Paine, Boeing

26 Radio Resource Measurement
July 2005 Work Approach Radio Resource Measurement Finish up LB73 comment resolution in San Francisco 2, next LB Resolve “remove” issues with up/down vote on noise, hidden, medsense, and location Richard Paine, Boeing

27 Radio Resource Measurement
July 2005 Technical Comment Categories Radio Resource Measurement Richard Paine, Boeing

28 Radio Resource Measurement
July 2005 Technical Comment Categories Radio Resource Measurement Richard Paine, Boeing

29 ftp://server/ July 2005 IP Address: 10.0.0.10 www.802wirelessworld.com
Will be used for this Session! Richard Paine, Boeing

30 ftp://server/802-11/ Upload ALL Submissions
July 2005 ftp://server/802-11/ Upload ALL Submissions Into the INCOMING Documents folder Richard Paine, Boeing

31 July 2005 Richard Paine, Boeing

32 Radio Resource Measurement
July 2005 Presentations Radio Resource Measurement Simon Black – vote on the comment resolutions on ANA (05/656r0, 05/655r0) Simon Black – review on the comment resolutions on PICS (05/678r0, 05/679r0) Kwak – vote on comment resolutions on RPI (05/686r0, 05/685r0) Kwak – vote on comment resolutions on RCPI (05/441r0, 05/440r0) Vote on ad hoc minutes (05/658r0) Brisbane Vote on ad hoc minutes (05/697r0) San Francisco (7/18/05) Vote on teleconference minutes (Cairns – San Francisco 2) (05/637r0) Richard Paine, Boeing

33 Radio Resource Measurement
July 2005 Presentations (contd) Radio Resource Measurement Floyd Simpson LB73 Miscellaneous Comment Resolution (05/488r1) Vote on Cairns minutes (05/508r0) Vote on difference document between Cairns and the end of Brisbane Ad Hoc (05/743r0) Richard Paine, Boeing

34 ANA Comment Resolution Vote
July 2005 ANA Comment Resolution Vote Move to instruct the editor to make the normative text changes detailed in 05/655r0 in creating the next version of the 11k draft and close the comments listed therein. Moved: Black Second: Lefkowitz Result: Richard Paine, Boeing

35 PICS Comment Resolution Vote
July 2005 PICS Comment Resolution Vote Move to instruct the editor to make the normative text changes detailed in 05/679r0 in creating the next version of the 11k draft and close the comments listed therein. Moved: Second: Result: X-X-X Richard Paine, Boeing

36 RPI Comment Resolution Vote
July 2005 RPI Comment Resolution Vote Move to instruct the editor to incorporate the normative text changes detailed in 05/685r0 in creating the next version of the 11k draft and close the comments listed therein. Moved: Joe Kwak Second: Qi Result: 9-1-6 Richard Paine, Boeing

37 RCPI Comment Resolution Vote
July 2005 RCPI Comment Resolution Vote Move to instruct the editor to incorporate the normative text changes detailed in 05/440r0 in creating the next version of the 11k draft and close the comments listed therein. Moved: Kwak Second: Result: X-X-X Richard Paine, Boeing

38 Brisbane Ad Hoc Minutes Vote
July 2005 Brisbane Ad Hoc Minutes Vote Move to accept the Brisbane Ad Hoc minutes found in 05/658r2. Moved: Srini Second: Black Result: Richard Paine, Boeing

39 San Francisco Ad Hoc Minutes Vote
July 2005 San Francisco Ad Hoc Minutes Vote Move to accept the San Francisco Ad Hoc minutes found in 05/697r0. Moved: Gray Second: Srini Result: 8-0-3 Richard Paine, Boeing

40 Teleconference Minutes Vote
July 2005 Teleconference Minutes Vote Move to accept the teleconference minutes of the teleconferences between Cairns and San Francisco 2 05/637r0. Change 3rd line on first page from “Mar-May” to “Jun-Jul” Moved: Srini Second: Jan Result: 6-0-5 Richard Paine, Boeing

41 July 2005 Cairns Minutes Vote Move to accept the Cairns minutes found in 05/508r0. Moved: Black Second: Kwak Result: X-X-X Richard Paine, Boeing

42 802.11k San Francisco 2 Agenda Wed 7/20/05
Month Year doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 July 2005 Radio Resource Measurement 802.11k San Francisco 2 Agenda Wed 7/20/05 Sign In + Richard Paine, Boeing John Doe, Some Company

43 TASK GROUP K AGENDA - Wednesday Jul 20th, 2005 - 08:00-18:00
July 2005 Agenda 7/20/05 Radio Resource Measurement TASK GROUP K AGENDA - Wednesday Jul 20th, :00-18:00 15 II Meeting Call to Order PAINE 08:00 16 DT Review Comments and Technical Presentations - PAINE/ALL 120 17 Break for Mid Week Plenary 150 10:00 18 12:30 19 Lunch Break 60 14:30 20 15:30 21 Break 30 17:30 22 18:00 Social Richard Paine, Boeing

44 Radio Resource Measurement
July 2005 Agenda 7/20/05 Radio Resource Measurement Presentations Comment Resolutions Richard Paine, Boeing

45 Radio Resource Measurement
July 2005 Presentations Radio Resource Measurement Simon Black – Triggered Measurements (05/512r1) Vote on four of our measurements; noise, medsense, hidden, and location (Wed 9am) Marty Lefkowitz – Neighbor Report (05/663r0, 05/664r0) (Wed PM) Tim Olson – Noise Comment Resolutions (Tues evening) Dick Roy Statistics of Power Measurements Steven Wang on Deferred Neighbor Report comment resolutions (05/580r2) Vote on PICS normative text Richard Paine, Boeing

46 Radio Resource Measurement
July 2005 Presentations (contd) Radio Resource Measurement Richard Paine, Boeing

47 July 2005 Frame Vote Motion: To remove the Frame request/report measurement from the 11k specification. Moved: Second: Result: X-X-X Richard Paine, Boeing

48 July 2005 Hidden Station Vote Motion: To remove the Hidden Station request/report measurement from the 11k specification. Moved: Second: Result: X-X-X Richard Paine, Boeing

49 July 2005 Noise Vote Motion: To remove the Noise Histogram request/report measurement from the 11k specification. Moved: Second: Result: X-X-X Richard Paine, Boeing

50 Medium Sense Time Histogram Vote
July 2005 Medium Sense Time Histogram Vote Motion: To remove the Medium Sense Time Histogram request/report measurement from the 11k specification. Moved: Second: Result: X-X-X Richard Paine, Boeing

51 July 2005 Location (LCI) Vote Motion: To remove the LCI request/report measurement from the 11k specification. Moved: Second: Result: X-X-X Richard Paine, Boeing

52 802.11k San Francisco 2 Agenda Thu 7/21/05
Month Year doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 July 2005 Radio Resource Measurement 802.11k San Francisco 2 Agenda Thu 7/21/05 Sign In + Richard Paine, Boeing John Doe, Some Company

53 TASK GROUP K AGENDA - Thursday Jul 21th 2005 - 13:30-18:00
July 2005 Agenda 7/21/05 Radio Resource Measurement TASK GROUP K AGENDA - Thursday Jul 21th :30-18:00 23 DT Review Comments and Technical Presentations - PAINE/ALL 120 13:30 24 II Break 30 15:30 25 16:00 26 ADJOURN 90 18:00 Richard Paine, Boeing

54 Radio Resource Measurement
July 2005 San Francisco 2 Agenda 7/21/05 Radio Resource Measurement Presentations Comment Resolution in spreadsheet Vote on Minutes (05/XXXXr0) Vote on Teleconference Minutes Vote on going to Letter Ballot Richard Paine, Boeing

55 Radio Resource Measurement
July 2005 Presentations Radio Resource Measurement Vote on Deferred Neighbor Report Comments Richard Paine, Boeing

56 Radio Resource Measurement
July 2005 Presentations (contd) Radio Resource Measurement Richard Paine, Boeing

57 July 2005 Motion Instruct the editor to incorporate the changes of 05/0353r0 into the latest draft of the 11k specification. Moved: Ecclesine Second: Olson For: Against: Abstain: 3 Richard Paine, Boeing

58 July 2005 Motion Instruct the editor to incorporate the changes of 05/0403r1 into the latest draft of the 11k specification, superceding changes in 1599r2. Moved: Wang Second: Simpson For: 2 Against: 0 Abstain: 1 Richard Paine, Boeing

59 Month Year doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 July 2005 Motion Move to accept the Cairns-San Francisco 2 teleconference minutes 05/0XXXr0. Moved: Second: Richard Paine, Boeing John Doe, Some Company

60 July 2005 Motion Move to accept the editorial and miscellaneous comment resolutions from the Cairns-San Francisco 2 teleconferences (05/0191r39). Moved: Second: Richard Paine, Boeing

61 July 2005 Motion Move to accept the comment resolutions from the Brisbane Ad Hoc teleconferences (05/0191r39). Moved: Second: Richard Paine, Boeing

62 Should location be in the 11k MIB?
July 2005 Straw Poll Should location be in the 11k MIB? Yes: 6 No: 1 Abstain: 0 Richard Paine, Boeing

63 Is there sufficient clarity to the description of location in k10?
July 2005 Straw Poll Is there sufficient clarity to the description of location in k10? Yes: 5 No: 0 Abstain: 2 Richard Paine, Boeing

64 July 2005 Motion Move to instruct the editor to include 05/k9 and k10 in the next 11k draft. Moved: Ecclesine Second: Kwak Result: 5-0-1 Richard Paine, Boeing

65 July 2005 Motion Move to instruct the editor to incorporate text from document k-BSS_Load_norm_text.doc into the next TGk draft specfi Moved: Kwak Second: Result: 2-0-4 Richard Paine, Boeing

66 Month Year doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 July 2005 Motion Move to instruct the editor to include k17 and k18 (Barber - Hidden) in the next 11k draft. Moved: Barber Second: Kwak Result: 9-0-1 Richard Paine, Boeing John Doe, Some Company

67 Month Year doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 July 2005 Motion Move to instruct the editor to include 05/0472r1 (Black) in the next 11k draft. Moved: Black Second: Qi Result: Richard Paine, Boeing John Doe, Some Company

68 Month Year doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 July 2005 Motion Move to instruct the editor to include 05/475r1 (Qi) in the next 11k draft. Moved: Qi Second: Kwak Result: 6-0-0 Richard Paine, Boeing John Doe, Some Company

69 Month Year doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 July 2005 Motion Move to instruct the editor to include 05/409r0 (Klein) in the next 11k draft. Moved: Klein Second: Emeott Result: Richard Paine, Boeing John Doe, Some Company

70 Month Year doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 July 2005 Motion Move to instruct the editor to include 05/438r0 (Kwak - Periodic) in the next 11k draft. Moved: Kwak Second: Qi Result: Richard Paine, Boeing John Doe, Some Company

71 Month Year doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 July 2005 Motion Move to instruct the editor to include 05/473r0 (Black – Req/Rep) in the next 11k draft. Moved: Second: Result: X-X-X Richard Paine, Boeing John Doe, Some Company

72 Month Year doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 July 2005 Motion Move to instruct the editor to include 05/476r0 (Wang - BSSID Info Field) in the next 11k draft. Moved: Wang Second: Simpson Result: Richard Paine, Boeing John Doe, Some Company

73 July 2005 Motion Move to instruct the editor to include 05/252r4, excluding 472,596, 989, 1348 in the next 11k draft. Moved: Wang Second: Simpson Result: Richard Paine, Boeing

74 July 2005 Motion Move to instruct the editor to include 05/k14r0 (Black – Triggers) in the next 11k draft. Moved: Black Second:Jokeia Result: 3-8-1 Richard Paine, Boeing

75 Empowerment for Teleconferences
July 2005 Empowerment for Teleconferences Move to request the Working Group to empower TGk to hold weekly teleconferences (Wednesdays at 11:30am Eastern time) through 2 weeks after the San Francisco plenary as required to conduct business necessary to progress the Letter Ballot process, including creating and issuing drafts for Letter Ballots and handling other business necessary to progress through the IEEE standards process. TGk Movers: Kwak/Roy Result: Unanimous Richard Paine, Boeing

76 July 2005 11k Ad Hoc Meeting Move to request the Working Group to empower TGk to hold an ad-hoc meeting in San Francisco for the week of 7/11 (Barber) as required to conduct business necessary to progress the Letter Ballot process, including creating and issuing drafts for Letter Ballots and handling other business necessary to progress through the IEEE standards process. TGk Movers: Barber/Kwak Result: 5/0/8 Richard Paine, Boeing

77 LB73 Still to Do July 2005 Emeott – Channel Report
Black – Channel Load All - General Olson – Medsense Gray – MIB Wang/Emeott/Simpson - Misc Black – PICS Wang/Emeott/Simpson – Power Wang/Emeott/Simpson – Probe Kwak - statistics Richard Paine, Boeing

78 Radio Resource Measurement
Month Year doc.: IEEE yy/xxxxr0 July 2005 Radio Resource Measurement 802.11k San Francisco 2 5/20/05 WG Closing Plenary + Richard Paine, Boeing John Doe, Some Company

79 802.11k San Francisco 2 Closing Plenary Report
July 2005 802.11k San Francisco 2 Closing Plenary Report Richard Paine Richard Paine, Boeing

80 Meeting Objectives Whole San Francisco 2 Meeting:
July 2005 Meeting Objectives Whole San Francisco 2 Meeting: LB73 Technical Comment Resolution Letter Ballot Richard Paine, Boeing

81 Meeting Objectives Met
July 2005 Meeting Objectives Met Whole San Francisco 2 Meeting: LB73 Technical Comment Resolution LB not met, will be San Francisco Richard Paine, Boeing

82 Accomplishments 21 Technical Presentations
July 2005 Accomplishments 21 Technical Presentations ~800 (out of 1600) LB73 Comment Resolutions Richard Paine, Boeing

83 Letter Ballot Recirculation
July 2005 Objectives for Sep 2005 Plenary Letter Ballot Comment Resolution Objectives for Nov 2005 Letter Ballot Recirculation Richard Paine, Boeing

84 July 2005 Plans Plan until next meeting: Weekly Teleconferences on Wed 11:30am Eastern Time starting on 7/27/05 Plan for start of next meeting: Letter Ballot Comment Resolution Next major milestone: Letter Ballot Recirculation Richard Paine, Boeing

85 Next Telecom 7/27/05 7/27/05 Meeting: LB Coordination July 2005
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