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Neurologic Emergencies: Perspectives from Europe / Turkey
John Fowler, MD Izmir, Turkey
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Overview Turkey Europe: approaches, current research
Its health care system and approaches to neuro. emergencies in various settings Unusual neurologic problems Research & educ. in neuro. emergencies Europe: approaches, current research
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Disclaimer Approaches to neurological emergencies vary greatly among physicians in Europe and Turkey Findings based on: personal experience (TR) personal interviews (TR, F, D, E) questionairre (N, TR, GB, B, D) Docs in rural areas just want to get by,. Make patients happy and show concern for them. Fancy meds not available. Things like Nootropil might help, probably do no harm. Will cover a few situations, but can’t cover all possiblities that might come up at every medical center in Turkey! Lack of money, lack of malpractice system.
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Turkey’s Health Care System: the patients
Health is often not taught in schools Few info sources for public Patients are ‘passive’, doctors speak with authority Thus the public is poorly informed about their health, and is not very good at recognizing signs of neurologic emergencies
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Turkey’s Health Care System: the patients
Health is often not taught in schools Few info sources for public Patients are ‘passive’, doctors speak with authority Patients are ill-informed about health problems Thus the public is poorly informed about their health, and is not very good at recognizing signs of neurologic emergencies
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Turkey’s Health Care System: finances and insurance
25% ‘everything paid for’ insurance (pts. usually go to univ. hospitals) 30% ‘govt. HMO’ insurance, with own hospital and clinic system 20% self-employed insurance: govt. hospitals 25% no insurance: govt. hospitals Instead of admission, some observe in ED for a day. A large proportion of pts are bound to govt hospitals, which are not well-equipped
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Turkey’s Health Care System: facilities
5900 public health clinics 1300 hospitals (950 govt.; 40 univ.) Little access to journals and internet in government hospitals Private health sector increasing PHCs only have stethescope and BP cuff and suturing supplies usually. Govt hospital docs often behind on current literature Other 310 hospitals are private
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Turkey’s Health Care System: facilities
More MR machines in Istanbul (80!) than in the UK. Head CT $40-50, head MR $80-100
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Turkey’s Health Care System: pre-hospital
Pre-hospital care (large-med. cities) ‘112’ national ambulance system 25% trauma, 20% cardiac, 10% neuro. Transport (blue) and ALS (red) ambul. 10% of customers have neuro emergencies
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Turkey’s Health Care System: pre-hospital
In large-med. cities, ‘112’ national ambulance system 25% trauma, 20% cardiac, 10% neuro. Still not widely available or used Taxi or private car used to transport 60% of stroke patients
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Turkey’s Health Care System: emergency department
Initial care given by GPs in 99% Neurologists in ED (very large govt. hospitals) Little initial documentation, little or no documentation upon transfer Head CT’s $30-40, head MR scans $70-100
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Turkey’s Health Care System: emergency department
Initial care given by GPs in 99% Neurologists on staff (medium-large hospitals) Little initial documentation, little or no documentation upon transfer About 100 EM specialists nationwide, most at university medical centers
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Turkey’s Health Care System: intensive care units
In large university medical centers, but few beds ‘Monitored units’ in government hospitals
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Ischemic Stroke: demographics (TR)
Present to health care provider (clinic or hospital without ICU) within 2 hours in 50%, and are then transferred to a tertiary-care hosp. About 30% arrive to a tertiary-care hospital within 2 hours
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Ischemic Stroke: demographics
Reasons for arriving late: (Dora B, et al, Akdeniz Univ. Dept. of Neurology) ‘Thought it would go away by itself’ Transportation problems Live far away ‘Didn’t realize it was an illness’ Not a lot different than in other communities perhaps
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Ischemic Stroke: University Medical Centers
History and physical exam Lots of blood tests; head CT [IV heparin]; almost no IV tPA One center: intra-arterial tPA Aspirin if no intracranial hemorrhage [IV furosemide or ACE inhib. for high BP] Hesitant to use tPA, one case of ICH ruins ones reputation… diuretics in D for HBP
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Ischemic Stroke: University Medical Centers
Cont’d: If cerebral edema worsens, Mannitol and fluid restriction In one center: craniectomy for severe cerebral edema How many here have craniectomy done for neurosurgical ICU patients??
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Ischemic Stroke: Large Govt. Hospitals
H&P, blood tests and head CT Steroids as anti-edema therapy no tPA Heparin if a small infarct, ± clopidogrel [Piracetam]
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Ischemic Stroke: Rural Govt. Hospitals
Nothing, then transfer patient, or Dexamethasone + mannitol + transfer [Furosemide ± mannitol if change in MS] [SL nifedipine for high BP]
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Ischemic Stroke: Folk Remedies in Turkey
Cold water, applied to the head Blood pressure medicine Perfumed water - cologne Massage of affected limbs Lemon juice; garlic; yogurt drink Therapies listed below are less common Cold water to the head specifically
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Ischemic Stroke: Treatment in Europe
Spain: tPA if <3 hrs; in large centers Norway: tPA if <3 hrs, etc Neurology if pt <60 y/o, int. med. if >60 Germany: patients cared for in ICU (anesth.); tPA in large hospitals (as per NINDS) heparin in small hospitals Less aggressive in older patients Same txs in Spain and UK. Mobile storke teams in Spain at large centers.
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Ischemic Stroke: experimental studies (Eu)
DIAS: Desmoteplase in Acute Stroke ‘DEDAS’ in the USA Vampire bat saliva 3-9 hours, if penumbra seen on MR ECASS III: tPA 3-4 hour window Same txs in Spain and UK
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Ischemic Stroke: experimental studies (Eu)
IMAGES: MgSO4 within 12 hrs; 5 gm load, 10 gm over 24 hrs ENOS: Efficacy of Nitric Oxide in Stroke Within 48 hrs; daily transdermal glyceryl trinitrate patch (NO donor) x 7 days IST-3: International Stroke Trial-3: tPA Within 6 hours; 0.9 mg/kg, 10% bolus… Same txs in Spain and UK The rest of IST tPA is given over an hour.
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Ischemic Stroke: Who should give tPA? (E, ?)
The internist in the ED? The neurologist on the stroke team? Not enough neurologists for a stroke team in every hospital, 24/7 Same txs in Spain and UK
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Transient Ischemic Attack: University Medical Centers
CT and admit for observation [CT & admit if >4 attacks in 2 weeks] ASA or ticlopidin or clopidogrel or ASA+dipyridamole [heparin if ‘unstable TIAs’] Only ones not admitted are pts on warfarin already, whose INR dropped low. They increase the warfarin dose and send them home if the pt had a minor TIA.
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Transient Ischemic Attack: University Medical Centers
After admission, imaging: (MR, carotid doppler, echocard., transcranial doppler) Treat underlying disease Clopidogrel If high-grade stenosis, endarterectomy
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Transient Ischemic Attack: Large Govt. Hospitals
[High-risk: heparin] Low-risk: aspirin Discharge to follow up in clinic Waiting for more info
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Transient Ischemic Attack: Rural Govt. Hospitals (TR)
Aspirin + discharge to clinic Waiting for more info
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Transient Ischemic Attack (Eu)
Norway, Spain, UK: 160 mg aspirin/day + inpt. or outpatient work-up If crescendo pattern: heparin/LMWH then coumadin Waiting for more info
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Undifferentiated Coma: University Medical Centers
H & P Lots of tests + head CT Waiting for more info
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Undifferentiated Coma: Rural Govt. Hospitals (TR)
± fingerstick glucose [SL nifedipine if hypertensive] IV mannitol IV furosemide Transfer to a larger hospital (univ. or govt. - depending on insurance or lack thereof)
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Subarachnoid Hemorrhage: University Medical Centers
Head CT, then MR angio, DSA Prophylactic nimodipine if more than mild Prophylactic diphenylhydantoin For high BP, IV nitroglycerine or nitroprusside Sedation; pain relief for headache No labetalol is available in Turkey!
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Subarachnoid Hemorrhage: Large Govt. Hospitals
Head CT (+ DSA if possible) IV nitroglycerine for high BP Dexamethasone, nimodipine, diphenylhydantoin Sedation Waiting for more info
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Subarachnoid Hemorrhage: Rural Govt. Hospitals
No CT scanner available LP is not done If patient looks well, might be discharged If patient worse, transferred after getting mannitol + furosemide + steroids Waiting for more info
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Guillain-Barré Syndrome: University Medical Centers
Attention to airway & breathing… If any question about the dx, LP and EMG Plasmapheresis then IV immunglobulin IV immunglobulin only if no plasmapheresis
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Guillain-Barré Syndrome: Large Govt. Hospitals
Attention to airway & breathing… Imaging if diagnosis is unclear Plasmapheresis then IV immunglobulin If no insurance, plasmapheresis only ± IV steroids If no money give steroids
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Guillain-Barré Syndrome: Rural Govt. Hospitals
Attention to airway & breathing… Supportive care only (if no money for transfer, immunglobulin or plasmapheresis) Waiting for more info
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Other neurologic problems (TR)
Behçet’s disease Recurrent inflammation Aphthous oral ulcers, genital ulcers, uveitis, erythema nodosum Most often though, these patients are handled through the neuro clinics. Neuro symps last several weeks.
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Other neurologic problems (TR)
Behçet’s disease Recurrent inflammation Aphthous oral ulcers, genital ulcers, uveitis, erythema nodosum CNS involvement in 30% Recurrent meningoencephalitis, CN palsies, transient brainstem dysfunction Brisk onset, CSF pleiocytosis, nl glucose Neuro symps last several weeks. Give steroids
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Other neurologic problems (TR)
Wilson’s disease (“progressive hepatolenticular degeneration”) Autosomal recessive Tremor of tongue, jaws… Dysphagia + drooling Rigid and slow moving limbs Motor problems in bulbar muscles first, then spread caudally (opposite of Parkinsonism) Will definitely see kaiser-Fleisher rings in eyes (deepest layer of cornea, in Descemet’s memberane) Low serum copper, increased copper excretion, high liver copper content on biopsy. Tx = reduce copper intake and take D-penicillamine by mouth.
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Other neurologic problems (TR)
Complications of Brucella & TB Meningitis Vertebral osteomyelitis Must elaborate on neuro presentations for Behcet patients. Most often though, these patients are handled through the neuro clinics
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Piracetam (Nootropil®) in TR
Used widely for “psycho-organic syndromes” in Turkey Memory loss Vertigo Learning difficulties TIA [epilepsy, TIA and strokes] Perhaps many in the audience here today are using this at their facilities…
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Piracetam (Nootropil®) in TR
Used widely for “psycho-organic syndromes” Memory loss, Vertigo Learning difficulties, TIA [epilepsy, TIA and strokes] Non-blinded, non-randomized; some human, many animal studies; results mostly: “a trend towards…” Like vitamins - maybe it’ll help… probably not harmful
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Other medications (Eu):
Clomethiazole - hypnotic used to attenuate alcohol withdrawal symps Olanzapine - atypical antipyschotic, rapid dissolving tablet
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Neurologic Emergencies: education (TR)
Textbooks and handbooks: Some written locally Some translated from English Emergency Medicine: companion handbook, 5th ed. (Ma & Stein) Neurology for the House Officer Merrit’s Neurology No emergency neurology book yet in Turkish
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Neurologic Emergencies: education (TR)
Emerg. Med. Assoc. of Turkey Emerg. Med. Physician’s Assoc. Neurology Assoc. of Turkey Working group on neurological critical care and emergencies Education given in conferences
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Neurologic Emergencies: national EM & neuro. societies +
British Association of Stroke Physicians ( European Federation of Neurological Societies ( Europ. Stroke Initiative ( European Stroke Council (eurostroke.org) Education given in conferences
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Neurologic Emergencies: research in Turkey
Stroke research Observational Headache Metoclopramide vs. meperidine Epilepsy observational Must contact Ministry of Health to see if tPA approved for stroke, find out about tPA study from Ministry of Health. Still waiting for reply from Genentech.
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Neurologic Emergencies: treatment guidelines
None yet by national neurology or EM associations in Turkey Foreign guidelines followed in many univ. medical centers Disadvantage of not knowing about local meds.Implementation varies according to financial status and insurance.
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Summary (TR) In many settings, public not well informed about emerg. health care Strokes are treated aggresively in large centers only Access to current medical info is limited (esp. in rural settings) Unproven therapies are used more often in rural settings Avoiding a bad outcome is the priority
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Summary (Eu) In large centers, stroke teams: treat patients with tPA
Enrolling patients in various trials tPA: 3-4 hours (ECASS III) Desmoteplase: 3-9 hrs tPA: 0-6 hours (IST-3) Mg: 12 hours NO (NTG patch): 48 hours Avoiding a bad outcome is the priority
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