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THE GOVERNMENT PLAN IRA 401(k)
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Let’s Take A Hypothetical Look…
I have a business proposal for you You front all the money. You take all the risk. You manage the business on a day to day basis. 30 years from now I’ll tell you how much I own. Do you want to go into business with me?
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THE GOVERNMENT PLAN 25-35% Ordinary Taxable Income
40 Years 10% Penalty Age 19-1/2 11 Years 100% Age 59-1/2 30 Years 50% Penalty Age 70-1/2 25-35% Ordinary Taxable Income 10% Early Withdrawal Penalty 35-45% TOTAL TAXABLE 80 to 85% of the time THE OWNER IS IN THE PENALTY PHASE What value does money have if you can’t use it? IS THIS DESIGNED FOR YOU, YOUR FAMILY, OR UNCLE SAM? Let’s look at what the government has planned for our retirement. Read the slide.
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Putting Dollars in Perspective
One Million Seconds………… One Billion Seconds…………. One Trillion Seconds……. 11.5 days 31.6 years 31,688 years
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Future Tax Rates What do you think? % Lower Higher Stay the Same
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Four Phases of Retirement Planning
If we think taxes are going to be Higher…. Is postponing taxes really a good idea? When should we start doing tax planning? YFB 11/12/2018
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Getting a Plan in Place Design Accumulation Distribution YFB
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Four Phases of Retirement Planning
Tax Favored Contribution Accumulation Taxed Withdraw Transfer YFB 11/12/2018
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Annual Taxes Deferred = $1,200
Annual IRA or 401k Contributions $6,000 for 40 Years = $240,000 Tax Bracket 20% Annual Taxes Deferred = $1,200 40 year savings = $48,000 YFB 11/12/2018
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Annual IRA or 401k Contributions
7% for 40 years = $1,281,657 Withdrawal Annually = $175,000 28.00% Federal Tax Bracket -$36,247* Net Income = $138,743 *2014 Tax Table: ($175,000x28%)-$12,753 = $36,247 Married filing jointly YFB 11/12/2018
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Annual IRA or 401k Contributions
During the retirement years (ages 65-87) $834,302 in taxes are paid Vs. $48,000 taxes saved during the contribution years YFB 11/12/2018
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Annual IRA or 401k Contributions
In the first 1.5 years of retirement, every dollar of taxes saved is paid back. A person living a normal life expectancy drawing income from a qualified retirement plan can pay more than 17.5 times the taxes saved during the contribution years. YFB 11/12/2018
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What About Contributing to an 401(k)?
You Contribute $6,000 a year for 40 years at a 7% rate of return with no match. Your account would be worth $1,281,657! YFB 11/12/2018
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You get to defer $1,200 a year for 40 years in a 20% tax bracket.
You get to defer the TAX!!! You get to defer $1,200 a year for 40 years in a 20% tax bracket. $48,000 Deferral YFB 11/12/2018
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The Withdraw Period You run out of Money at age 73!
You withdraw $175,000 a year at age 65 with a 4% rate of return. You run out of Money at age 73! YFB 11/12/2018
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The TAX BILL!!! You withdraw $175,000 a year for 9.45 years. If this were your only income, you would be in a 28.00% tax bracket. That’s $36,247 a year for taxes. Total taxes for 9.45 years: $342,534. Deferral: $48,000 for 40 years. YFB 11/12/2018
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714% RETURN ON YOUR DEFERAL!!!
The IRS loves you… 714% RETURN ON YOUR DEFERAL!!! YFB 11/12/2018
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So the company will contribute $3,000 to your 401(k).
What About the Match??? You make $100,000 a year and want to contribute 6% to your 401(k) to max out the match. Your Company matches 50% of your contributions for the first 6% of salary that you contribute. So the company will contribute $3,000 to your 401(k). YFB 11/12/2018
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What About the Match??? You Contribute $6,000 a year for 40 years at a 7% rate of return. Your Company matches 50% of your contribution up to 6% of your salary- Total $9,000 each year. Your Account would be worth $1,922,486! YFB 11/12/2018
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You get to defer the TAX!!! You still get to defer $1,200 a year for 40 years in a 20% tax bracket. $48,000 Deferral YFB 11/12/2018
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The Withdraw Period Then you run out of MONEY at age 79!
You withdraw $175,000 a year at age 65 with a 4% rate of return. Then you run out of MONEY at age 79! YFB 11/12/2018
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The TAX BILL!!! You withdraw $175,000 a year for years. If this were your only income, you would be in a 28.00% tax bracket. That’s $36,247 a year for taxes. Total taxes for years: $507,598. Deferral: $48,000 for 40 years. YFB 11/12/2018
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1065% RETURN ON YOUR DEFERAL!!!
The IRS loves you… 1065% RETURN ON YOUR DEFERAL!!! YFB 11/12/2018
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Let’s Compare At Age 65… No Match 50% match Rate of Return 7%/year
Account Value $1,281,657 Annual Withdraw $175,000 Tax Bracket 28.00% $36,257 Net Distribution $138,743 Total Distribution to 73 (Net) $1,248,687 Total Taxes Paid $342,534 Rate of Return %/year Account Value $1,922,486 Annual Withdraw $175,000 Tax Bracket 28.00% $36,257 Net Distribution $138,743 Total Distribution to 79 (Net) $1,942,404 Total Taxes Paid $507,598 YFB 11/12/2018
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Let’s Compare the YFB 401(k) Alternative with 401(k) Contributions
Let’s keep everything the same, the only variable will be the investment. YFB 11/12/2018
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YFB 401(k) Alternative ($6,000 per year)
Let’s Compare Your 401(k) with the Maximum Match to the YFB 401(k) Alternative!!! 3% Match ($9,000 per year) YFB 401(k) Alternative ($6,000 per year) Rate of Return 7%/year Account Value at 65 $1,922,486 Annual Withdraw $175,000 Tax Bracket 28.00% $36,257 Net Distribution $138,743 Total Distribution to 79 (net) $1,942,402 Total Taxes Paid $507,598 Rate of Return %/year Account Value at $1,381,403 Annual Withdraw $138,743 Tax Bracket Tax Free Net Distribution $138,743 Total Distribution to 87 $3,052,346 Total Taxes Paid $0 -$541,083 +$1,109,944 Plus +$507,598 YFB 11/12/2018
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So What’s the Big Deal with the Match?? We have a Better Plan!
Conversion Alternative Cost not to do the plan… Rate of Return 7%/year Account Value at $1,381,403 Annual Withdraw $138,743 Tax Bracket Tax Free Net Distribution $138,743 Total Distribution to 87 $3,052,346 Total Taxes Paid $0 Addition Income: $1,109,944 Tax Savings: $507,598 Total: $ 1,617,542 YFB 11/12/2018
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Let’s Compare Your IRA/401k With and Without Market Risk
What if we could show you how the Conversion Alternative performs 200%+ better than an IRA, and without market risk. Assumptions: With S&P Market Risk 25% Income Tax Rate S&P Interest Credit is 100% Not including brokerage fees or fund expenses YFB 11/12/2018
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What is the return of $1.00 after 16 years With Market RISK and Tax?
IRA vs. Conversion Alternative Returns With and Without S&P Market Risk YEAR START S&P Gain/Loss Ending Value P +I 2000 1.00 -0.054 0.95 2001 -0.149 0.81 2002 -0.224 0.62 2003 1.231 0.77 2004 1.104 0.85 2005 1.056 0.90 2006 1.121 1.01 2007 1.024 1.03 2008 -0.393 2009 1.238 2010 1.134 0.88 2011 -0.022 0.86 2012 1.188 1.02 2013 1.254 1.28 2014 1.139 1.46 2015 -0.001 What is the return of $1.00 after 16 years With Market RISK and Tax? Assumptions: With S&P Market Risk. 25% income Tax Rate. S&P Interest Credit is 100% No Brokerage Fees or Mutual Fund Expenses.
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IRA With S&P Market Risk
YEAR START S&P Gain/Loss Ending Value P +I 2000 1.00 -0.054 0.95 2001 -0.149 0.81 2002 -0.224 0.62 2003 1.231 0.77 2004 1.104 0.85 2005 1.056 0.90 2006 1.121 1.01 2007 1.024 1.03 2008 -0.393 2009 1.238 2010 1.134 0.88 2011 -0.022 0.86 2012 1.188 1.02 2013 1.254 1.28 2014 1.139 1.46 2015 -0.001 What is the return of $1.00 after 16 years With Market RISK and Tax? Start with $1.00 and End with $1.46=$.46 Gain, or 46%. $46%-25% tax = 35% return over 16 years after tax. 35%/16 years = 2.19 % average return per year. 35% with Market Risk, Tax and New Tax(s) Risk
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Conversion Alternative Returns Without S&P Market Risk
YEAR START S&P Gain/Loss Ending Value P +I 2000 0.75 0% 2001 2002 2003 1.13 Cap 0.85 2004 1.104 0.94 2005 1.056 0.99 2006 1.121 1.11 2007 1.024 2008 2009 1.28 2010 1.45 2011 2012 1.64 2013 1.85 2014 2.09 2015 Start with $0.75 Deposit after 25% Tax Assumptions: No S&P Market Risk. No Tax Rate. S&P Interest Credit is 100%. Cost of insurance contract is not included.
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Conversion Alternative Returns Without S&P Market Risk
YEAR START S&P Gain/Loss Ending Value P +I 2000 0.75 0% 2001 2002 2003 1.13 Cap 0.85 2004 1.104 0.94 2005 1.056 0.99 2006 1.121 1.11 2007 1.024 2008 2009 1.28 2010 1.45 2011 2012 1.64 2013 1.85 2014 2.09 2015 Start with $0.75 Deposit after 25% Tax Start with $0.75 and End with $2.09 = $1.34 Gain, or 179%. 179%/16 years = 11.2% average return per year. 179% with No Market Risk, Tax and New Tax(s) Risk
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Conversion Alternative Returns Without S&P Market Risk
What is the return of $1.00 after 16 years With Market RISK and Tax? Start with $0.75 Deposit after 25% Tax Start with $1.00 and End with $1.46=$.46 Gain, or 46%. $46%-25% tax = 35% return over 16 years after tax. 35%/16 years = 2.19 % average return per year. 35% with Market Risk, Tax and New Tax(s) Risk Start with $0.75 and End with $2.09 = $1.34 Gain, or 179%. 179%/16 years = 11.2 % average return per year. 179% with No Market Risk, Tax and New Tax(s) Risk
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Tax-Free Accumulation Tax-Deferred Growth Tax-Free Withdrawals
What about a Roth? Tax-Free Accumulation Tax-Deferred Growth Tax-Free Withdrawals A Roth IRA does have advantages. Read the Slide.
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Start with $0.75 Deposit after 25% Tax
What about a Roth? YEAR START S&P Gain/Loss Ending Value P +I 2000 0.75 -0.54 0.71 2001 -0.149 0.60 2002 -0.224 0.49 2003 1.231 2004 1.104 0.66 2005 1.056 0.70 2006 1.121 0.79 2007 1.024 0.81 2008 -0.393 2009 1.238 0.61 2010 1.134 0.69 2011 -0.022 0.68 2012 1.188 2013 1.254 1.02 2014 1.139 1.16 2015 0% Start with $0.75 Deposit after 25% Tax Start with $0.75 and End with $1.16 = $0.41 Gain, or 55%. 55%/16 years = 3.44 % average return per year.
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Roth IRA Retirement Savings
We started with $.75 and end with $1.16 That is gain of $0.41 or 55% return . 55%/16 years equals 3.44% average return per year. 55% with Market Risk Conversion Alternative 178% with NO Market Risk, NO Tax and NO New Tax(s) Risk! YFB 11/12/2018
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The “Perfect” Investment
IRA 401K Your Family Bank Withdrawals Growth Risks? Guarantee’s? Penalties? Liquid? Protected/Creditors? Leverage? Tax Deferred? Tax Free? Collateral? Disability? Growth Penalty + Tax = 40% ? (10% + 30%) 100% Tax Free Including Cost Basis Tax Deductible Or Tax Deferred? After Tax (Not ded.) Contributions The “Perfect” Investment
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